Chalkhills Digest Archive E
Date: Friday, 21 April 1989

	       Chalkhills Archives, Part E

		  Friday, 21 April 1989

Today's Topics:
                     Drummers for XTC
         XTC outside activities, Wishful Thinking
                  XTC outside activities
                   bunches of stuff....
                       some answers
                  XTC outside activities
                         drummers
                       Re:  drummers
                 Videos! (was Vidoes! :-)
                       Re:  Vidoes!
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 89 13:00:00 EDT
From: rpk@goldhill.com (Robert Krajewski)
Subject: Drummers for XTC

How about:

Zeke Manyika -- drummer for The The (at least the first album) and
  Orange Juice

John ``Drumbo'' French -- of the Magic Band; is still doing stuff.  You
  can hear a good deal of his possibilities on _Live, Love, Larf, and Loaf_
  with Fred Frith, Henry Kaiser, and Richard Thompson.

Actually, the guy from John Cougar's band (Kenny Aaronson) sounds a
lot of Terry Chambers in thwack mode...

And although it might not be a perfect fit, Keith LeBlanc of Tackhead,
who has an impressive range, and is at home with anything from jazzy
sophistication to monstrous, driving machinoid funk.  XTC would be an
interesting median in his list of colloborators, which include James
Brown, REM, and Ministry.  (Not to imply that that XTC is a linear
combination of those guys !)

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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 89 12:47:48 EDT
From: rpk@goldhill.com (Robert Krajewski)
Subject: XTC outside activities, Wishful Thinking

After a scan of the archives:

Nobody from XTC has appeared on the same record as Robyn Hitchcock or
the Soft Boys.  (Must have been confused with Thomas Dolby, who does
pop up on _Black Snake Diamond Role_ and _Invisible Hitchock_.)

Colin Moulding does not appear on _Knights Like This_ by Peter
Blegvad, although he is on the (short) ``Thanks To'' list.

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From: dschmidt@athena.mit.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 89 10:10:22 EDT
Subject: XTC outside activities

John sez:

   > A long time ago, Colin Moulding put out a single under the name ``The
   > General'' called Too Many Cooks.  I've never heard it.

   This was just about the same time as Barry Andrews' two (or more) solo
   singles.  One has Fripp on it.  I haven't heard them, don't know what
   they're like.

Too Many Cooks In The Kitchen b/w I Need Protection is a great single.
Stupid silly I-IV-V song with stupid silly backing vocals.  Great.

I heard Barry Andrew's singles once a while ago, they're pretty good.
But then again, I like his songs on Go 2, unlike most people here.

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Date: 20 Apr 89 12:05 -0700
From: Nou Dadoun <dadoun@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: bunches of stuff....

>>Andy's solo LP:  What a masterpeice!  You can see why he's a Resident,
>>alright.  What a great album.

>Careful -- if you run around referring to Andy as a Resident, someone's
>bound to take you literally.  Take Away is a great album, but it took
>me a long time to recognize it.  Of course, when I first got it I wasn't
>a Residents fan, either.

I've heard this rumor several times, (and appropriately repropogated it
myself); that the Residents are a floating collective of performers
which has included AP.  Anyone who likes Take Away should certainly
venture at least as far as the Residents' Commercial Album (if not
Fingerprince, Third Reich and Roll, and the Mark of the Mole).

I've long enjoyed Take Away; I made up a tape (for the car) in which
I tried to segue the Drums & Wires cuts with some of their remodeled
equivalents on Take Away.  My favorite (of course) is the trumpet
solo which picks up without missing a beat while everything else
goes dub crazy.

Actually I just remembered that I put the Commercial Album on the other side
of that tape.  Deja Voodoo!
------------------------------------------------------------> Nou

"Cheese and Crackers?  I say NO!"

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From: sco!stewarte@ucscc.ucsc.edu
Subject: some answers
Date: Thu Apr 20 12:16:20 1989

I lost the questions, but here are some answers:

I mentioned that Go + was sold separately, and someone asked me for the
label information.  It's Virgin (UK), looks like the same label as the
old Go 2 (green & red).  Catalog # is VS 23312.  Plain black cover with
"XTC Go +" on the front, track listing & copyright on the back, nothing
else.  I bought it at Tower about 2 years ago (5.98 list price).

Someone else was asking about recording dates for "Take Away".  On the
back cover it says:
"Put and take by John Leckie and Andy Partridge 10.10.79"

Stewart

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From: sco!stewarte@ucscc.ucsc.edu
Subject: XTC outside activities
Date: Thu Apr 20 12:37:58 1989

>From: ucscc!goldhill.com!rpk (Robert Krajewski)
>.  Andy Partridge might also appear on some of Robyn Hitchcock's early
>   (pre-Fegmania) solo work.  They seem to be mutual admirers, at least.

Andy hasn't appeared on any of Robyn's stuff that I know of, and I know
of just about all of it.  So unless anyone knows specifics, I think
this can be written off as a rumor.

>A long time ago, Colin Moulding put out a single under the name ``The
>General'' called Too Many Cooks.  I've never heard it.

That's "The Colonel".  Terry Chambers drums on this single, too.
"Too Many Cooks" is an unusually silly song for Colin, with a bouncy
syncopated rhythm.  "I Need Protection", the B-side, is slower and
dronier; there's an XTC demo tape that includes an early version of
this, it may be a Drums & Wires out-take (although it was re-recorded
for the single).

>I'd also consider ``Ella Guru'' to be an outside project, too; it's
>under the name XTC (appearing in the US as a B-side to the Simpleton
>EP and in the UK on the CB tribute album _Fast and Bulbous_), but it's
>also so different, given how they've progressed from their professed
>early influences.  For those of you who have picked up Captain
>Beefheart's _Trout Mask Replica_ (now available on CD), the similarity
>between XTC's version and the original is amazing and amusing.

It is amusing as a tribute, but by doing what amounts to a direct remake
of the original, they rendered their version superfluous.  I find it
interesting only as a statement of reverence towards the Captain.

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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 89  16:30:21 EDT
From: jsd@umass.bitnet
Subject: drummers

I don't want to hear any more of this "Terry Chambers is exactly what
XTC needed" cant.  He doesn't impress me any more or less than a million
other drummers out there.  What's the big deal?

Personally, I think Peter Phipps' acoustic bashing and Andy's Linn
were the perfect matchup on "The Big Express" (which is undoubtedly
my favorite XTC record).  Listen to the incredible fills on "Train
Running Low On Soul Coal" and tell me that they need Chambers back.

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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 89 15:37:07 PDT
From: batman@ebay.sun.com (Karl MacRae - The Surreal World of Customer Service)
Subject: Re:  drummers

>Listen to the incredible fills on "Train
>Running Low On Soul Coal" and tell me that they need Chambers back.

	I'd go on telling you all day, but it wouldn't help, would
it? =B^)

	"Every one of us has a *GOD GIVEN* right to be wrong!
=B^)

	Speaking of that song, 'Train Running Low On Soul Coal', has anyone
seen the video of Andy and Dave Gregory playing that on accoustic guitars
in an outdoor amphitheater? It's even better than the version on the record.
	It's from a taped interview I have from some british TV show....

	-K

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From: srfndave@att.att.com@ihlpb.att.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 89 12:16 CDT
Subject: Videos! (was Vidoes! :-)

Steve queries:
> Does anyone know where I can get the XTC videos compilation for less
> than an arm and a leg?  I've seen it advertised as a Japanese import
> for $130 (!).
>
> Steve Barash

The Turntable in Schaumburg, Illinois, sells an excellent quality version
of it for $30 (last time I checked, this was much cheaper than an arm and
a leg :-) .  If I can find their phone number, I'll send it, or you can
call 312-555-1212 and ask for their number.

The video is called "Studio Songs 1-11", and has an excellent video quality
and great hi-fi stereo sound.  Highly recommended viewing for everyone on
this mailing list.

Surfin' Dave

P.S.  If you live in the Chicago area, you might be able to convince me
      to let you come over and see it...  :-)

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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 89 10:38:17 PDT
From: batman@ebay.sun.com (Karl MacRae - The Surreal World of Customer Service)
Subject: Re:  Vidoes!

>Does anyone know where I can get the XTC videos compilation for less
>than an arm and a leg?  I've seen it advertised as a Japanese import
>for $130 (!).

	I got a whole *bunch* of videos from a guy who advertised in
'Little Express'.

	Anyone got a current copy? Are those ads still there? I think the
guy was in Arizona.... I got two or three six-hour tapes of vidos, live
footage, interviews, etc...; $20 each!

	-Karl

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