Chalkhills Digest, Number 423 Wednesday, 22 March 1995 Today's Topics: videos Top 40 / Big express The Lilac Time "Uh've been in love before" Re: XTC AND STING Peter Pumpkinhead-again (slight return) XTC Videos allsorts (licorice?) The Big Express XTC & The Police Intro, Jellyfish, Tubes Fretless and Wireless I'm So Square Dukes = ? Crash Test Dummies Cover RE: Chalkhills Digest #422 Todd is Godd? Thanks and Disappointment Ahoy collectors The Anti-Todd The continuing saga of "My Bird Performs" Re: Chalkhills Digest #422 Administrivia: * When you request information from the list, it is common courtesy to report your findings so that others can benefit as well. The best way of doing this is to take all the responses that you received and edit them into a single article that can be sent to the list. Take the time to strip headers, combine duplicate information, and write a short summary. Try to credit the information to the people that sent it to you, where possible. To UNSUBSCRIBE from Chalkhills, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Chalkhills Archives not available using FTP. World Wide Web: "http://chalkhills.org/" The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. There's food for the thinkers and the innocents can all live slowly.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 10:23:02 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Long <tlong@unixg.ubc.ca> Subject: videos Can someone provide a complete list of xtc videos post Look Look? I was flipping thru Twomey's (sic?) biography and was amazed to find out videos were made of Wonderland and Mole from the Ministry. ps And if anyone out there has the time/is kind enough to dub them or any other bits of video business (eg Puppet Show, At the Manor, MTV, etc.), please let me know!! ciao, thomas
------------------------------ From: "Lance Johnson" <johnson@debaser.ccrd.mot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:38:34 -0600 Subject: Top 40 / Big express I hafta jump on this thread about top 40 XTC songs. Didn't Peter Pumpkin Head land well into the top 40 territory in 92-93? Top 40 stations were playing it at the time, to my chagrin. And I thought that I remember Casey Casem doing a count featuring PPH. But, I could be wrong. I have to admit that I am not wowed by the Big Express album cover art either. But I did happen to find a 12" vinyl copy of the Big Express picture disk - just a 12" rusty wheel. Pretty cool. I think that I'll have to dust off the turntable and start collecting XTC albums on vinyl, as I have all of their compact disc creations. For starters I found a used record store with Black Sea(in the green bag), Big Express, English Settlement, O&L, Go2, White Music, Drums and Wires and Mummer. I very good way to spend $100 US these days. cheers! -lance
------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 1995 14:47:06 -0500 From: "Wesley Wilson" <Wesley_Wilson@iegate.mitre.org> Subject: The Lilac Time Greg Merritt in Chalkhills #421 opines that The Lilac Time's albums get worse (as if they were bad to begin with!) with order of release. I've gotta disagree vehemently. I don't think any of them are bad at all. Quite the contrary. The LT's first album, self-titled here in the U.S., has some beautiful gems like "Black Velvet," "Return to Yesterday," and "You've Got to Love." Unfortunately, it also has some rather sleepy, go-nowhere songs like "The Road to Happiness." And while I have not heard the LT's second album, "Paradise Circus," I have heard a track from it, "American Eyes." Great song with refreshing, thoughful lyrics and vocal harmonies. Now, "And Love for All." This album took a while to grow on me, but I now count it among my favorites. Songs like "Fields," "The Laundry," and "All for Love and Love for All," "Wait and See" are pure effervescent pop. "Paper Boat" is great. This is the LT's best album, in my opinion. Again, great vocal harmonies and thoughful production. The last Lilac Time album, "Astronauts," has some good cuts as well, but the band split up in production of this album, so it's not all Lilac Time. A lot of this album is basically Stephen with his acoustic guitar. Still, good stuff. I just think Stephen Duffy's music gets better all the time as he matures as an artist. Check out "Music in Colors" (1992). The man can pen a great melody. He's due for a new album this spring. I hope he's back with The Lilac Time. Wes
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 15:17:25 EST From: patty@gdb.org (Patty Haley) Subject: "Uh've been in love before" > From: Craig Dickson <cd@crl.com> > Re: "My Bird Performs": > > |I always looked at this as just being a man (I've never viewed this as > |being autobiographical by Colin, by the way), who doesn't give a hot > |goddamn about what others collect or call valuable because he's got a > |terrific relationship with a woman who's keeping him sexually satisfied > > I have no idea why people insist on reading sexual (or, for that matter, > drug-related) overtones into perfectly straightforward songs. Sorry, but I > think you're totally wrong on this. "My Bird Performs" is a song about the > quiet pleasures of life. The things many people think important are no big > deal to him -- "Fine art never moved my soul", etc. -- but the simple > pleasures of home life are all he wants. Craig, I wrote the text you're rebutting above. First of all, I can't see how someone's opinion can be "wrong." Facts can be proven, opinions can't be. And, if you'll look at what I wrote again, you'll see that we are saying the same thing, at least about the "things many people think important", as I mention "what others collect or call valuable." I find that Chalkhills is a most cordial bunch of people. I hope that my spirited differences of opinions have insulted no one. When I disagree with someone, such as Jon's opinion that the first songs on albums are weak, I didn't think of him as being wrong, even though I disagreed heartily. Let's please all be careful of the way we disagree with someone--opinions aren't "wrong," they're just different, and they're also what keep this list interesting and often open up a new way of looking at something, which I am glad of. And hey, isn't sex a pleasure of home life? :-) Now, for something a bit lighter, does anyone else find Andy's vocals in "Great Fire" as amusing as I do (see my subject line above for specifics)? His accent really shines through here--it always evokes a smile from me. And hey, I heard a song by Sam Phillips' _Martinis and Bikinis_ on the radio the other night. I liked it! Wow, maybe I should buy it, after all. Last but not least to Mike McCormick: Andy may not ever have played a fretless penis, but has he ever held a fretting son? -Patty Catherine Wheel World Wide Web Home Page: http://gdbdoc.gdb.org/~patty/CW/CW_home_page.html
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:18:08 -0800 From: Bill.Wisner@efi.com (Bill Wisner) Subject: Re: XTC AND STING >I am also wondering if XTC was mocking Sting in their song "This World Over" >which I believe is on the BIG EXPRESS album. [...] >I see the whole tune as a lampoon of the obvious and "in-your-face" protest >song that pin-heads like STING and DON HENLY have popularized lately. Any >thoughts anyone? No way. I can't really see XTC blatantly mocking anyone in this fashion. And This World Over seems very sincere - like all of XTC's music. When Andy sings about something he means it, and this is one of the reasons I love him so. w.
------------------------------ From: Louis Barfe <plc005@cent1.lancs.ac.uk> Subject: Peter Pumpkinhead-again (slight return) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:11:01 +0000 (GMT) The DJ on Radio 1 who evangleised over 'TBoPP' last weekend was Kevin Greening. He was going on about how he kept hearing XTC's version in the most unlikely places. Greening's XTC love is well known to regular listeners. He once played 'Generals and Majors' and back announced it with 'I'm never happier than when I play XTC on the radio' (according to an ex-girlfriend of mine, but that'e the gist.). Isn't Greening good? Apart from his impeccable taste, he is literate, funny and very dry.
------------------------------ From: Jennifer Heather Zinn <jzinn@hsc.usc.edu> Subject: XTC Videos Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 20:08:41 -0800 (PST) Waterloo Records in Austin TX has a Japanese compilation of videos for rent- cheesy videos actually shot in "video"- I remember Generals and Majors and Making Plans For Nigel being especially cheesy.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 16:13:21 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James) Subject: allsorts (licorice?) >It's at Uffington, in the Vale of Evesham, near the borders of Oxfordshire >and Gloucestershire. And it's the most beatiful carved creature in the >whole wide world (...as James wallows in waves of homesickness...) Ooops, I'm slipping. Make that the Vale of the White Horse, a bit further south than Evesham, nearer the borders of Gloucs, Oxon and Wiltshire - even nearer Swindon. After 20 years away, my memory's going. And yes, of course I meant Summer's Cauldron, not Grass. I've been ill lately. Excuse me, I hear some more porridge calling... --- Another thought about Englishness (it's so hard to know what sort of "obvious" things are or aren't known in the US...), do you Americans know that the cover of the single of "Wait Till Your Boat Goes Down" is modelled on a box of "Ship" brand matches? --- Re Go2's cover, I've read (I *think* in a folio of album covers by some design company or other - Hipgnosis, perhaps?) that the cover used for Go2 was one that had been conceived as a joke by the cover designers, and several bands had turned down as being daft. Then along came XTC and said "THAT one's EXACTLY what we want!!!" --- >From: AngryYngMn@aol.com >give XTC a run for their money. CH is an Australian band that has been <cringe> yeah, and U2 is English... seriously though, CH is now based in Australia most of the time, and the band's membership is jointly Oz/NZ, but they still think of themselves primarily as a NZ band. James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno)
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 16:14:11 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James) Subject: The Big Express >I have to admit that the Big Express was the very last XTC album >I got simply because I thought it had an *ugly* cover. I know, very >superficial. Prime case of "don't judge a book (or record!) by its >cover". Okay, I get the train theme, but that poorly photographed rusty >wheel is completely at odds with the very polished, shiny feel to the >Big Express. This is an album where all that extra production actually >works. The only train song is Soul Coal, anyway. A seafaring name >would have been more appropriate, in my op. Sorry to disagree, but here's where some English knowledge comes in handy. Back in the heyday of Steam - y'know, REAL trains - the biggest railway junctions in Britain were in London, Glasgow, Crewe, Darlington and Swindon. Swindon was (and still is) primarily a railway town. For a band from Swindon, particularly one that has a certain British nostalgia inherent in there songs, the image of a rusted wheel from a steam locomotive, straight from a wreckers yard, is perfect. Check too the lyric sheet of the LP. The green colour is that of the Great Western Railway's steam livery. The photo of the band sees them on the footplate of a GWR steam locomotive - probably a "Castle" or "King", since these were the two main passenger hauling locomotives of the GWR (which had its regional headquarters in Swindon). No, the railway imagery is perfect. And although it's not the most glamorous of cover pictures, it perfectly reflects the nostalgic feel of an earlier, more idyllic Britain that XTC try to conjure up in a lot of their songs. James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno)
------------------------------ From: cbailey@henry.wells.edu Organization: Wells College Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:29:45 +0500 Subject: XTC & The Police Greetings All! In Chalkhills #422 Jim Slade asked whether the Police and XtC ever shared producers. The booklet which accompanies Message In A Box: The Complete Recordings of The Police states: "[The Police in 1981] asked around for a new producer and, on the recommendation of XTC's Andy Partridge, called in Hugh Padgham (a young, but experienced, engineer whose first co-production credit had just appeared on Phil Collins's Face Value)." Someone else asked what we thought were the influences for some of the Dukes' songs. I've always thought that 25 O'Clock sounded a lot like Journey to the Center of Your Mind by the Amboy DUKES (Ted Nugent's original band); The Mole in the Ministry is very much Sgt. Pepper era Beetles; and, finally, there's no doubt in my mind that Your Gold Dress is Pink Floyd's Set the Controls For the Heart of the Sun done up 2-3 times faster than the original! :>) Other ideas? Chris
------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 1995 23:19:47 U From: "Scott Underwood" <ideo_pa!scott%mailmac.ideo.com@netcom.com> Subject: Intro, Jellyfish, Tubes This is my first post to Chalkhills, and while I do feel some of you could be spending your time more wisely, I am enjoying most of the conversations. I especially like the transcripts of interviews with the band members printed here. I have a Skylarking-era interview with Andy that I've kept, published in BAM (a free SF Bay Area magazine covering California music). Perhaps I'll scan bits of it in. I can't imagine hating an XTC song (or a whole album!)--I might not get it, but work went into it and I have yet to find filler on an XTC album. The only album I've passed up is something called Waxworks, which seemed to be house mixes of XTC songs. ========================== I will thank you all for the recommendations of Jellyfish, an amazing band. Queen, 10cc, Cheap Trick, Sweet--they're all there, and given a lovely sheen by the group. I hope to hear The Grays soon, but they're not played on the station I frequent. ========================== Sorry to continue this drift, but I must defend one of my first great loves, The Tubes. Far from being just another pop band, I think the Tubes had one of the best live shows ever, and I saw many. Dancers, costumes, props, gratuitous nudity, it was more of a cabaret than a mere rock show. In addition to the songs previously listed, they were well-known here for the rock anthem "White Punks on Dope" (with lead singer Fee Waybill appearing as Quay Lewd, archetypal glam-rocker with two-foot platform shoes and lighted glasses spelling out his name) and the girl-group parody "Don't Touch Me There" (sung by Re Styles and Fee in full leather regalia atop a Harley-Davidson). Many of their songs contained very clever wordplay, abounding with double-entendres, especially the '79 album "Remote Control" which is almost a rock opera about a man obsessed by TV, and is produced by Todd Rundgren. >My favorite Tubes' song is "What Do You Want Out of Life?" >(A rubber baby doll's head, of course...) From their '75 debut, the song is "What Do You Want From Life" and the final line is "A baby's arm holding an apple?" >I own one of their albums, called "The Pleasure Principle", >and wouldn't listen to it now if you paid me That's too bad, you're missing out. The album is called "The Completion Backward Principle" and contains the oft-mentioned "Talk To Ya Later," an obvious bid for airplay, and the far superior "Sushi Girl." Two final bits of Tubes lore: Prairie Prince, in addition to being a fabulous drummer (the snare on "Earn Enough For Us" is amazing), is also an artist, responsible for much of the band's cover art. He also designed their famous T-shirts featuring an airbrushed face that took up the entire shirt front. This was made very popular by the Mork-era Robin Williams. Also one of the two keyboardists, Vince Welnick, is now in the Grateful Dead, having replaced a member who recently died. Thanks, and see ya. Scott Underwood scott@ideo.com
------------------------------ From: Byron K Wright <bkwright@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Subject: Fretless and Wireless Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 03:35:50 -0500 (EST) Two comments from #422 follow: "Jay E. Scott" <jescott@ucs.indiana.edu> wrote, > What is the significance of Drums & WireLESS, since the disc spans > several years and is not necessarily acoustic? "Wireless", as in RADIO, eh? Not to mention the play on the title of the third album. m.mccormick2@genie.geis.com wrote, > While I'm at it, let me categorically state that Andy Partridge has > never in his life played a fretless penis.... ...While I'm (thankfully) quite ignorant of the particulars of Andy Partridge's autoerotic tendencies, I assume that like most humans he indeed indulges in the pleasures of sight-slaying pastimes. If so, then he very likely HAS played a fretless penis - on many occasions, too, judging from: 1) "that song", 2) his recent divorce, and 3) his thick eyeglasses. Of course, if his wang IS fretted, I just don't want to know.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 03:55:27 -0500 From: Gene_Yoon@brown.edu (Gene Yoon) Subject: I'm So Square >A thousand Cheshire cats / Grin inside of me. > >[like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush -- John] Huh? Call me whatever, but I don't get this simile, John. >Why on earth would the sexual connotations of "My Bird Performs" offend >Carol Moulding? This may be another "Englishisms FAQ", but I thought Brits >use "bird" as slang for any female, wives included. So translated from >English to American: "My Chick Performs"? Carol would be perhaps >flattered. All I know is, if I called my girlfriend "my chick", or my "bird", for that matter, then she'd, well, actually, I don't know exactly what she'd do except that it wouldn't be very nice. It's the quiet pleasures of life, as someone already said. The quiet pleasures of a content man. Alright, let's bury this thread already. james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James) >For a band from Swindon, particularly one that has a certain British >nostalgia inherent in there songs, the image of a rusted wheel from a steam >locomotive, straight from a wreckers yard, is perfect. Check too the lyric >sheet of the LP. ...The photo of the band sees them on the footplate of a GWR >steam locomotive.... No, the railway imagery is perfect. And although it's >not the most glamorous of cover pictures, it perfectly reflects the >nostalgic feel of an earlier, more idyllic Britain that XTC try to conjure >up in a lot of their songs. You're quite right, of course, thanks for the historical background. But whenever I have a listen to the Big Express I usually end up imagining oceans--I guess that's because "Pretty Girls" "Seagulls" and "This World Over" (with its pseudo-Carribean beat and "when you get to a sea of rubble") are all pretty much in succession on side one. I feel like I'm on a ship, not a train, and shouldn't the album name and cover reflect its content? The other albums do this quite well, all of them in fact. Mummer is a good example--three silhouettes on a rather vague pastel background matches the album's obscured quietness. Black Sea: four tough-looking guys in heavy gear reflects the hard-hitting tone of that album. Skylarking's artistically drawn cover of male and female figures is dead-on with its songs about nature and love. Etc etc, and then there's a wheel shot in the dark for The Big Express. In reality, I've always loved trains, and that's one reason why I'm studying engineering now, engineering as in lots of differential equations and not the kind where you toot whistles, but I still love trains nonetheless. I think the inner sleeve photos of the band are really fun (almost hilarious), so why not one of these on the cover? Or how about an actual engine. That would evoke this "more idyllic Britain" nostalgia just as well, I think. (I know how pointless I'm being since this album was released eleven years ago, but I'm just sharing my thinking aloud.) >I met Neil Finn at one of the very first Crowded House headline dates in >Toronto, at the Diamond Club if you are from T.O., I was sharing a three >way conversation with Neil, Myself and a gent in a Drums And Wires T >shirt. We were talking about John Lennon and XTC which made perfect sense >don't you think. Do elaborate, please. I'm very very curious as to what Neil Finn had to say about XTC. By the way, Crowded House comes from Auckland, New Zealand, and not Australia, just to be perfectly anal about it. Gene
------------------------------ From: CVreeken@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 09:38:07 -0500 Subject: Dukes = ? In Chalkhills 422, Jim Slade wrote: >does anyone know or guess the models on which XTC based some of their >Dukes songs? Many are obvious (to me), and I've read something with >Andy Partridge comparing "Kaleidescope" to the Move's "Blackberry >Way", but I've never heard anything on "Your Gold Dress". Does >anyone, like me, think that the song is related to "Dropout Boogie," >from the first Beefheart album? Here's what I think: "Your Gold Dress" is an homage to Syd Barrett era Pink Floyd as is "Bike Ride To The Moon." Especially the high pitched vocal harmony. "Mole In The Ministry" = '67 Beatles, a la "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "I Am The Walrus," while "Kalidoscope" mines a later John Lennon solo material vein. "Pale And Precious" = Pet Sounds era Beach Boys, a cross between "God Only Knows," "Caroline No," and "Good Vibrations" "25 O'Clock" = "I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night" by the Electric Prunes. The genius of the Dukes is evoking the sound of these groups without resorting to blatent mimicry. Most of the others remind me of something, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Craig Vreeken, Sacramento, CA
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 13:23:16 -0500 From: "Craig Snyder" <csnyder@YorkU.CA> Subject: Crash Test Dummies Cover Greetings My name is Craig Snyder and I thought I would delurk as I am trying to avoid working on a presentation I have to give tomorrow. I just wanted to make the point that the best thing that the CTD cover of PPH has done is brought the XTC version back into the spotlight. I actually saw the original XTC video on Much Music (Canada's cover of MTV) the other week. I was very dissapointed when I heard the CTD version of PPH. I know they are big fans of the band and they were approached by the people responsible for _Dumb and Dumber_ only after someone heard them playing the song live. I am a big fan of covers. I have a copy of the _Stairways to Heaven_ CD and Video which has 25 different versions of that song. Those of you in Australia and NZ will be aware of this and those of you in the UK have probably heard the Rolf Harris version. The rest of you are unfortunate not to be able to hear this excellent compilation made by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Sorry I digress, my point is I dislike the CTD version because it is too much like the XTC version and frankly not as good. If they had only done something different to the song, speed it up, slow it down, anything just change it! Cheers Craig *--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Snyder Post Doctoral Fellow Centre for International and Strategic Studies Joint Centre for Asia Pacific Studies York University, Toronto, Ontario Canada Phone: (416) 736 5156 Fax: (416) 736 5752 *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 19:42:01 -0500 From: "David Harris" <harris~d@glaxo.com> Subject: RE: Chalkhills Digest #422 I figure it is time I formally introduce myself. My name is David Harris. I work with a pharmaceutical company as a Lab Services Technician and I play music in my spare time. I feel privileged to be surrounded by a group of individuals who share a common interest, XTC. I thank you for allowing me to be a part of this information exchange. One question: Was XTC in the movie Urgh, A Music War?
------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 1995 16:03:46 U From: "Russell Shaddox" <Russell_Shaddox@quickmail.cis.yale.edu> Subject: Todd is Godd? John Lisiecki (JohnL16506@aol.com) wrote in #421: > Skylarking is amoung the most musically significant records XTC has ever > released, but it does in fact sound really awful ... Strangely, I still > think it is their best work. I definitely agree on the first count (and possibly on the second). Todd Rundgren is a definite creative genius, but nobody ever accused him of being meticulous. Utopia's "Oops, Wrong Planet" (despite being an album full of excellent songs) is one of the worst produced records in the "whole history of the whole history," if I may quote Olivia Newton-John. Rundgren does have a talent for bringing out a band's creative best (as he did with Bourgeois Tagg, the Tubes, XTC, etc). But though he's a fine songwriter and a Significant Musical Figure, he's a sloppy producer, IMHO. Still, as John L pointed out, sometimes that's just what a band needs. Russell Shaddox If it's dangerous, illegal, sickening, strange or obscene, You can get it from the man if your money is green. (Utopia)
------------------------------ From: AMANION@rex.mnsmc.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 17:38:30 GMT-6 Subject: Thanks and Disappointment Hi Folks, Thanks for the many helpful responses to my questions about XTC top forty hits in the states and about the Homo Safari series. I'm disappointed (but not surprised) by the lack of commercial success for our boys on this side of the pond. You people are a veritable treasure trove of information. I am the most knowledgable XTC fan I know and yet you fill me with shame as your brilliance "blots out the sun." Thanks again. Andy
------------------------------ From: Joe_Jarrett@nynet.nybe.north-york.on.ca (Joe Jarrett) Subject: Ahoy collectors Date: 21 Mar 1995 20:24:29 GMT Organization: North York Board of Education I just recently found a source of lots of XTC vinyl singles and 12"ers. If you are looking for some items to complete or pad your collection e-mail me privately and hopefully we can work something out. Cheers, Joe.
------------------------------ From: BarryR7704@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 22:42:39 -0500 Subject: The Anti-Todd I've been away from the terminal for awhile so I just read the last 9 issues in one sitting. Not a recommended practice, but nothing beats a Vise-Grip for keeping that mouse button down. Standout items: the Sherwood bros. most excellent flame-fest, a Hugh Marsh sighting, the multiple choice entrance exam and more schmeckel zingers than a seder at the Concord (apologies to female Chalkhillians [Chalkettes?], moil Chalkhillians and anyone else offended by penis jokes). Btw, that stuff about Kurt Schwitters was garbage. I'm hoping to interview Todd Rundgren soon to hype his appearance at a seminar I'm involved with. As part of my research I got in touch with his fan club (initial contact thanks to C.Vreeken on this list) and was amused to learn that many of TR's fans used to speak of Andy as the evil anti-Todd until AP finally recanted about Skylarking. And then I thought, gee, if Utopia fans could find it in their hearts to embrace Andy, maybe I could stop thinking of him as The Man Who Destroyed XTC To Save It... ...nah.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 10:31:39 -0500 From: whee@morgan.com (Gerald Wheeler) Subject: The continuing saga of "My Bird Performs" Hi Gang; Just to add my two cents worth to the debate, I've always viewed "My Bird Performs" to be a simple analog to Andy's earlier composition "Ladybird." The juxtaposition of the two songs reminds me of those competitions that poets like Wordsworth and Colridge used to have, as well as Burns and Keats, where they would select a topic or simile and each, within a certain time frame, would write the best poem he could on the topic--later they would directly compare the results and have friends pick the better poem. I bet if you asked Andy and Colin when the songs were written, you would find that the two songs were the fruits of artistic sparing. Example: "Shall I compare thee to a [type of bird], thou art more fair and temperate..."[Sorry Shakespeare, by the way, Shakespeare's sonnets don't leave me cold] While I generally prefer Colin as a songwriter and lyricist to Andy, I must say that Ladybird is definitely my favorite XTC song to date. Regards all, Jerry Wheeler
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:07:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <ccoolidg@moose.uvm.edu> Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #422 Well, after lurking for a couple of weeks, can't keep my ten fingers still any longer. I first became aware of XTC when I was living in Montreal in '79 and Drums And Wires was practically the first "New Wave" band the local FM rock station would touch, along with Joe Jackson and occasionally Elvis Costello.(another great songwriter who IMHO has improved with age)In fact, Drums And Wires actually went gold in Canada that year. Their status as "token new wave band" turned me off checking them out further, besides I was too busy discovering the Ramones. Though I like it now, D&W was too commercial for me at the time. A year later I went to college in Amherst, MA, heard Black Sea in friend's dorm rooms a lot, and I was converted. English Settlement won me over for good. Hopefully I'll be able to respond to a lot of people indirectly with general comments on the subject. Personally, I like XTC because they're intelligent people who write and sing very well-written songs about sub- jects that mean a lot to them that few others will touch.(Funk Pop A Roll is a fine example I haven't seen mentioned yet)Also my favorite bands are highly imperfect and aren't afraid to try experiments that don't work or songs that seemed like a good idea at the time but come out rather dodgy. XTC certainly qualifies. IMHO, the only XTC albums that are close to per- fect are, in descending order of greatness, English Settlement, Skylarking and Drums And Wires. You could also include side 1 of Nonsuch; if that were a single album unto itself it would be their best ever in my book. XTC were also intelligent enough to put most of their experiments on B-sides and British EP's. Speaking of experiments: I have a second generation dub of a cassette of Andy Partridge demos that for the most part never saw the light of day. Anyone else know about this? Two demos eventually got released in finished form; "Happy Families" on the "She's Having A Baby" soundtrack; and "She's A Little Lighthouse" on the Dukes Of Stratosphere album. The rest are mostly outtakes from Mummer, The Big Express, and Skylarking. A few are incomplete or half-finished, a few more are little more than rough work tapes; a few more, like "Young Cleopatra" "Work" or "Bleu Disque"(the last is Andy's attempt at a tender love ballad that in his opinion fell flat on its face)are close to ranking with his best. "Young Cleopatra" is an outtake from Mummer, and would have brought the mood of that album up several notches; showed he was actually capable of being upbeat at that stage in his career. There was a couple of guys I knew in college who put together a stand-up bass/acoustic guitar duo playing nothing but XTC covers, the likes of "Yacht Dance" and "Love On A Farmboy's Wages." Just thought somebody would be interested.
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