Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 110 Monday, 6 May 1996 Today's Topics: Re: Underpopularity Some may lose but some succeed Memories, Meccanic and More XTC Non-popularity of XTC white music Back To Lurk Mode Clay Henry Eric Matthews --SKYLACKING UPDATE-- The Truth About Soundtracks too little too late correction Black Sea Divings **Clarification** XTC song or not? One Way to Make an XTC Convert Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-109 XTC and, um , Hootie videos Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe chalkhills For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: "http://chalkhills.org/" The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. One glance from those two eyes. . .
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <v01530500adaf1d639f6f@[199.171.191.61]> Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:46:02 -0700 From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.) Subject: Re: Underpopularity Some personal recollections regarding the "Why ain't XTC more popular?" debate: I didn't become an XTC fan until Skylarking, which zapped this Beatlemaniac boy right in the gonads. Before that, I had mostly heard only XTC's radio hits ("Oh yeah, they do 'Senses Working Overtime,' right?") and based on those songs, I decided the band wasn't for me. The singing was too whiny and, more importantly, all the songs seemed to have the same grating "bouncy-bouncy" rhythmic feel. I still feel that way about some of the early stuff, I guess. Anyway, obviously I'm a huge fan now, but maybe some other neophyte XTC listeners feel similar to the way I did. Make any "Sense?" Some other record-sales barriers are obvious: no touring, hard-to-fathom lyrics which tend to hide their emotional thrust behind metaphors and the like, no touring, a certain lack of rock 'n' roll drive in favor of artsy polish, no touring, lack of record-label support, no touring, an intangible coldness to the group's presentation, no touring....oh well.... EB PS You guys are all driving me nuts with your raving about old XTC rarities and unreleased demos. I feel very deprived! :(
------------------------------ From: Gene_Yoon@brown.edu Message-Id: <v02130500adaf19ac6799@[128.148.184.54]> Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 22:14:57 -0500 Subject: Some may lose but some succeed >From: Saints3Den@aol.com >Subject: non-popularity > >f'rinstance, i'm sure that quite a bit of their fan base through >Black Sea was at least disappointed with English Settlement , and that many >of them left then Point of contention: XTC's fanbase got bigger than ever with English Settlement. It was a top five album in England for many weeks, and Senses Working Overtime was XTC's first top ten single. The few shows they did after the release of this album were the hugest (and scariest, for ragged-nerved Andy) they'd ever seen. It's hard to conjencture, but I'm of the ilk that's convinced that XTC's continuing rise in popularity would have kept climbing if they didn't stop touring. And, quite possibly, there'd be no XTC to speak of at all right now if they did keep touring. I wasn't around (at least as an avid consumer of music) for the first round of bruhaha over English Settlement, but it's undeniably my favorite album now. It's the essence of XTC: a perfect meld of the hard-edged and pastoral. >and her one comment was... What is >"X"-"T"-"C" (that is how she said it) bbbbut that IS how you say it. Wait, let's regroup: that's how Andy, Colin and Dave say it. For some reason I find it very odd when people pronounce it as "ecstacy". >I have never called a radio station to request any xtc song. If I >don't , how will they know I want to hear them? Once in a purple moon, I'll hear XTC on WBRU. For instance, this morning, squashed between Stone Temple Pilots and Folk Implosion were the cellos and child voice of Dear God. A few weeks ago I heard Mayor of Simpleton. I also recall Making Plans for Nigel and Senses in the past year. Yes, that's about all of the staple XTC songs, and, no, they've NEVER played any of my requests, like Wake Up or Grass or Generals and Majors. Go2 figure. >From: Nancy B LaMotta <sisnbl@gwunix2.gwu.edu> > >With XTC, they enunciate so well Yikes, I think often Andy and (less so) Colin enunciate pretty horribly. Especially the earlier music. For near-perfect enunciation in singing, see: Cline, Patsy. Unfortunately, her music's lyrics don't bare too much thinking about (unless you just broke up with someone), so I'd much rather Andy sang clearly. Now on to Mitch's post about his conversation with Andy: how aggravating and disheartening. A cruel world when thirty XTC songs waiting to be released are imprisoned by a record company. We're obviously not going to see anything new this year. What happened to those indy labels? Columbia? My god, aren't there any record company execs among us? And most saddening was Andy's remarks about Colin. Inactive and reclusive, not writing songs? I hope he's exaggerating. But still disturbing that they've fallen out so much as a group that they don't even know what the others are doing anymore. Finally, thank you thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry about Eric Matthews. I knew you'd all pull through! With the advent of my next paycheck, I'm off to Newberry Comics for a wicked good time. >> From: "Tom X. Chao" <tqc8542@is.nyu.edu> >> P.S. What happened to the David Byrne flame war? > >It, um, jerked off. > >-Patty Pretty anticlimactic, I'd say. (sorry, that was a stretch.) Gene
------------------------------ From: Ben Gott <BENG@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us> Subject: Memories, Meccanic and More XTC Date: Fri, 03 May 96 07:25:00 edt Message-ID: <3189FC48@pentium3.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us> The neat thing about XTC, I think, is that it invokes more memories for me than any other music..."Yacht Dance" reminds me of cruising along in my Dad's Saab at 110 MPH with my brother driving and all the windows & the sunroof open; "My Bird Performs" reminds me of lying on the beach and Nantucket; "Knuckle Down" reminds me of a photo trip to NYC that ended up at Sam Goody instead of the ICP (I listened to two songs - "Knuckle" and "Leisure" the entire bus ride home - almost 2 hours!) "Summer's Cauldron/Grass" reminds me of driving to NYC with my best friend, Bob, and having a really awesome day. Why don't people like XTC more? Hmmm. All I know is that my entire school is going crazy for - strangely enough - "Meccanic Dancing" (sp?) I put it on "XTC Mix #1" that I gave to my roommate, and he's been passing the tape around to all his friends. My friend Meredith said that after he left the tape in her room, she put it on and secretly...DANCED to it! Additionally, my roommate (an amazing bass player) lurched in to something interesting during our band concert on Saturday night. There I was, sitting at the keyboard, when he started playing...Colin's bass line to "Watchtower"! I was impressed, to say the least. If anyone knows where I could get a copy of the Nonsuch demos CD (which I think we all agree is a spawn of Satan), please let me know. I'll send Andy a check. Take care, Ben XTC SONG OF THE DAY: Pink Thing
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s189d16b.038@DICTAPHONE.COM> Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 09:21:51 -0400 From: Tim Kendrick <TKEN@DICTAPHONE.COM> Subject: Non-popularity of XTC >>>I think they (the Record Company) usually chooses the >>>wrong song to make a single. I think this is a BIG reason why XTC is not more popular here. "Singles" rule here in the USA. There are very few hit albums here that don't have a hit single. One huge single can put a group into the "star" category. Two or more hit singles from an album put a group into the "superstar" category. XTC have not sold as well as they should have in the past because that have not had a hit single. And the one "minor" hit they had was "Dear God", which ended up making SKYLARKING the best selling XTC album to date (I think ?). The RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS only became really big after their single "Under The Bridge" became a big hit. R.E.M. only became really big after "The One I Love" went Top-40. All XTC need for their next release to be big is one really big, hit single ! But, chances are the new record company (whoever they turn out to be) will probably pick the wrong song to release. They'll probably try to release "The Last Balloon" instead of something brilliant like "Church of Women". (Oh, sorry, I'm not supposed to have heard them - sorry Andy !) Bye for Now ! Tim K. P.S. - One of Andy's all-time favorite TV shows "DOCTOR WHO" is coming back: Tuesday May 14 on FOX network in USA Monday May 27 on BBC-1 in UK (wouldn't Andy be great as the Doctor ???)
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v01510100adafb41c36c6@[194.128.83.69]> Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:59:33 +0000 From: fisher@easynet.co.uk (Mark Fisher) Subject: white music This is just an open-ended speculative question, but I wonder whether the current two threads about a) black music and b) XTC's popularity might not be connected. So far the black music question has prompted most Chalkies to go into self-analysis about the content of their own record collections (as much as anything, I think, to prove their anti-racist credentials), but I'm just wondering about Andy, Colin and Dave's record collections. If the influence on their music was less New York Dolls, Captain Beefheart and 60s psychedelia, and more Motown, R&B and funk, would the resultant cocktail be any more commercially palatable? Let's not get bogged down talking about race, what matters here is broad musical influences. And I think it's fair to say that apart from the reggae-tinged choppy guitar of D&W/Black Sea and the African rhythms of English Settlement, XTC make few nods to traditionally black forms. In itself this is neither good nor bad, but it *might* have had an effect on how accessible people find them. Just a thought . . . Mark Fisher (fisher@easynet.co,uk)
------------------------------ From: Bob Thomas <BobT@cait.wustl.edu> Subject: Back To Lurk Mode Date: Fri, 03 May 96 12:52:00 CDT Message-ID: <318A4800@msgw.cait.wustl.edu> I can feel myself heading back to lurk mode. Before I go, I'd like to fuel this music quality thread that some have picked up. Nancy LaMotta shares a common memory of a time when, as kids, we could imagine buying only one record at a time because we had saved for it, and saving enough for two was too much deprivation. So, while we were on the next saving cycle, our most recent purchase rode the turntable until it was ground to microdust. We listened. We absorbed. We played coffee table drums and air guitar and we sang every word of every song exactly as we heard it (I remember having a little trouble with P. McCartney's high C). As a result, we knew this music the way chalkhillbillies know XTC. Some of us lost the capacity to listen, -- or the time, or the inclination -- and we buy CDs by the handful or none at all. Music lost its place. It doesn't play like it used to for them. But I haven't done justice to Nancy's discussion. She sparked my interest when she talked about being subjected to ABBA on her Dad's 8-track. Poor kid. She reminded me of how I treat my wife to music I love and think she ought to love too (remember, this discussion centers around getting others to dig XTC, and why they think you're a geek or something for listening to them). I say to my wife, "Wife, you should hear this." Sometimes she feels she has more important things to do at the time, like the taxes, or running for Vice President of the Parent's Association. But at times she will allow herself to be strapped into a listening position, headphones secured around her head and throat, consulting her watch and looking longingly at the front door as if she hoped someone would ring the doorbell. I say "best pop song I ever heard in the past two months!", and I play Lloyd Cole's Weeping Wine. SHE AGREES! Already loves Lloyd. Easy sell. Back she goes to preparing the penny fund drive for frightened animals that are too little to stand up for themselves. Over time, wife and I have communed on Nigel, Senses, and Peter, but I can't go near her with "that screaming seagulls thing," as she likes to call it. Last nite I said, "You've got to listen to No Language In Our Lungs," a song that has rung in my brain of late. She replied, "If you say so, I will." WOW! But let's don't go changing our shape (as David Byrne might say) just yet. This might not work out. Where I hear beautiful orchestration and passionate singing, she might hear screaming seagulls. Who knows. Its a quest. I'm on a mission from God. I have found my calling and it will last a lifetime. Wish me luck. Keep writing everyone. I will be reading. All the best, Bob
------------------------------ From: Bob Thomas <BobT@cait.wustl.edu> Subject: Clay Henry Date: Fri, 03 May 96 13:05:00 CDT Message-ID: <318A4B4E@msgw.cait.wustl.edu> Oops. One more thing. Anybody know this Clay Henry clan from Atlanta? Seems they have a shameless commerce division name of Ted Lee, but he's welcome if what he says has a modicum of truth. Anybody heard Supersize? Thanks Bob
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:25:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199605031825.OAA02694@mail-hub.interpath.net> From: LEE LOVINGOOD <lognsdad@Interpath.com> Subject: Eric Matthews Greetings, In response to your cry for non album Eric Matthews tracks, I thought I would respond. I am a program director for an alternative radio station in North Carolina. I too loved the Eric Matthews cd and longed for other tracks. I then received, courtesy of Sub Pop, the cd single for Fanfare. Lo and behold, the disc had three non album tracks. The tracks are: Lids, Nails, Screws - A Certain Kind - and the s.h. mix of Distant Mother Reality. I could put them on tape for you if you would like. write me back and let me know if you are interested! Just so there is a bit of XTC related stuff in this message, I close with this... "There may be no golden fleece, but human riches i'll release..." Oh yeah! Peace, Love and Understanding, Lee (Logans Dad)
------------------------------ From: BugRoom@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:49:29 -0400 Message-ID: <960503174928_527662699@emout12.mail.aol.com> Subject: --SKYLACKING UPDATE-- Skylacking is ON. Bizarre Depiction is still compiling twisted, crazy, innovative cover versions of "Skylarking" album tracks and B-sides. In keeping with the tradition of the first two XTC tribute cassettes, (1992's "OBSCENE COLLECTION" and 1995's "BEASTS I'VE SEEN", the new tape ("SKYLACKING") will feature odd and unlikely reworkings of one of XTC's best albums. Not all of the tracks have been spoken for yet. The more daring of you may wish to contribute your versions of one of the remaining songs. First let's see what's left and what's not: TAKEN as of May 1: Summer's Cauldron - John Neil's own synthetic reconfiguration. Grass - Franco Turra redoes it in Italian, as "Erba," with an amazing Balinese gamelan pop sound. The Meeting Place - Chris Dodge of SPAZZ does a huge grindcore sendup. That's Really Super, Supergirl - The PopUp Book are a (possibly defunct) Boston duo that plays it like it was an outtake from the GO2 sessions. 1000 Umbrellas - Athens, Ohio band NORTONS ORCHESTRAVILLE take it head-on. Earn Enough For Us - Martin Fuchs does it in German. Rad. Another Satellite - John Relph gets my vote for "best XTC cover by a group or duo, EVER," with this amazing version. This WILL NEVER BE RIVALLED, so chill. Leon Redbone. Mermaid Smiled - samarkand pisses out the fire yet again with a sarcastically dour take. Terrorism - USELESS lays waste with distorted bass! yeah. The rest is wide-open (Ballet For A Rainy Day, Season Cycle, Big Day, The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul, Dear God, Dying, Sacrificial Bonfire, Let's Make A Den, Find The Fox, & The Troubles). Your submissions should be on cassette, however it sounds best (Dolby, etc.), we're not terribly picky about sound quality. As long as your version is awesome, there's nothing to worry about (ha). Tracks may be reserved by writing to the Bizarre Depiction po box with a brief description of what you're planning (ie-Season Cycle! rap!). This is to insure that you don't wind up going into a pro studio to work on a song that's already taken! Tapes MUST BE IN by July 1, 1996, so get crackin'! CONSUMERS! Those interested in acquiring "OBSCENE COLLECTION" AND "BEASTS I'VE SEEN" for one low price are encouraged to e-mail BugRoom@aol.com for information on how to do that. Questions? Concerns? Please send them directly to Ian via snail-mail: BIZARRE DEPICTION Po Box 15579 Columbus, OH 43215 usa
------------------------------ From: Gene_Yoon@brown.edu Message-Id: <v02130500adb164802c35@[128.148.184.54]> Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:14:57 -0500 Subject: The Truth About Soundtracks This has no XTC content. But what with everybody touting how "eclectic" or "varied" their music tastes are, I'm sending in this recommendation: _The Truth About Cats and Dogs_. A decently entertaining, cute, formulaic big studio romantic comedy (I was dragged to go see it last night, but was pleasantly surprised), but the soundtrack is NONSUCH! *All* the songs are good. That is, if your taste in music is as schiz as mine. My eyes popped when I went to the record store today and saw the list of contributing artists: Suzanne Vega, Squeeze (!), Ben Folds Five, Cowboy Junkies, Aaron Neville, Jill Sobule, Paul Weller, The Brand New Heavies, Sting, Blues Traveler, Al Green, The Robert Cray Band, Dionne Farris. It's like a really good mix I'd make without the tape dubbing headaches. As far as I can tell, all the songs are new. The Ben Folds Five song "Bad Idea" is beyond fun, and was featured in a very funny scene in the movie. Jill Sobule's "Where Do I Begin" is so cool you could pack meat with it. "This Road" makes Squeeze finally sound like Squeeze again. I could very easily imagine this soundtrack's producers asking XTC to do a track (after all, there's even a masturbation scene), but Andy probably hasn't recovered from his _She's Having a Baby_ letdown. Anyway, highly recommended for all you music-hungry folks. Gene
------------------------------ Message-ID: <318BD391.537B@televar.com> Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 15:00:49 -0700 From: T Lewis <tlewis@televar.com> Subject: too little too late Chalklettes: Just heard on the NPR station out of Spokane, here in WA state, that tonight (sat, 5-4) at 11, a very fine (I think locally produced) weekly show, Johnson's Improbable History of Pop, is doing an hour on XTC. Given the Chalkhills schedule, I'm betting those of you in the area who missed any promos (using "Scissor Man" under voice-over) will be reading this too late. I'll advise if anything startling is revealed. I might even get it together to record the thing. By the way, as long as I've shaken free of the stagefright long enough to post...thanks to those of you who made suggestions, both in email to me and in the digest, about my strip "Over the Hedge". I'm still cogitating on how to get smooth, obscure references to Our Other Partridge Family in the strip (currently we're running behind schedule, so I'm just happy to get the damn things done every week). Self-serving note: visit us and Dilbert and Rose is Rose and Robotman, etc. at http://www.unitedmedia.com. (the syndicate's website). Also (uh-oh, set free I've started to ramble), I saw XTC open for the Police in Houston in, I think, 80 or 81 (I came for our boys, stayed for a couple of Police tunes, then split). I must say, that it was kind of disappointing. The crowd, of course weren't into it. But really, to me, even at that early date (Black Sea), in spite of their undeniable raucousness, XTC's genuine charms lay in the subtle things that only at-home (albeit loud) listening could feature. When Andy backed away from live performances, it didn't surprise me, I assumed it was for the same reason the Beatles quit...no live way to do the music justice. One more point: about lack of popularity. This may be cynical (not to mention self-congratulatry), but it seems to me that, given how "quirky" and intelligent and demanding the guys' music sounds to the average listener, they've actually been pretty successful. Been together 20 years. Still at it (Virgin notwithstanding). Medium-sized but devoted following. Vast toy soldier collection. Can anybody out there really imagine XTC ever selling like a Kenny G (and though we wish the boys well, wouldn't it kind of spell the end of a something special if they did?). I'm gone, T Lewis
------------------------------ From: Gene_Yoon@brown.edu Message-Id: <v02130501adb2080b9889@[128.148.184.54]> Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 02:25:55 -0500 Subject: correction oops, with another listening I realized they're not all new songs on the cats and dogs soundtrack, like the Cowboy Junkies and Blues Traveler tracks. still good, though.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 01:09:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199605051609.BAA05683@gol1.gol.com> From: mwicks@gol.com (Michael Wicks) Subject: Black Sea Divings Chalkies! In Digest #2-109, bob.g sings praises of Eric Matthews CD....I am dying to buy this! But where do I go in Japan (any fellow Japanese members out there, or gaijins living in Japan have a copy or know where I can get it please feel free to drop me a line at my mwicks@gol.com e-mail site!). Bob also says he is off to listen to Black Sea....well, it's that time once a-gain to dust (not too much dust, actually :-)) off another "Classic" XTC album, #4 in the series, this being...Black SEA: The last of Steve Lillywhite's productions brings us to an important turning point in the bands career. With Dave Gregory settling in comfortably as guitar-virtuoso man, and Andy's vocals getting a BIT more restrained (alebit not much), the band (esp Andy) tries to shake off the disappointing showing of 'Wait Till Your Boat Goes Down' (a song Cap'n Mitch would love!- A salty 'B' is what I give it) by recording an album that was, in many ways, "Work Under Pressure". Upon releasing this pressure, though, come many a treasure from the dark, Black Sea, and here's a brief review of the songs: Respectable Street- Suburbia was never painted like this! A song that always seems to be going through my head, I find that every time I walk down the street in my neighbourhood, and I hear the housewifes talking, or the kids playing, or (cliche alarm here) someone slamming a car door, this song just naturally pops up! Great lyrics, fantastic rhythm and melody, awesome! A- Generals and Majors- Colin does it again! This song was a favourite of mine even after I saw the horrendous video for it (although as a spoof on early videos, it would be funny! Especially the part with Richard Branson--what a twit!). I must've played this, the next song, and Wardance a thousand times during the Gulf War. A personal Moulding favourite of mine, and well-deserved, too. A- Living Through Another Cuba- I still don't know how Andy could muster up the raw energy to perform this one night after night...it would seem so draining a song, considering it's one of the fastest "dance" songs he's ever written. A long intro into this song is on the Rockpalast video from '82, in which Andy talks about this being the "new dance craze sweeping Europe...the Cuba..." or something like that. The demo, Ban the Bomb, is creative in it's simplicity, but the finished product is one of Partridge's masterpieces. Recently revived what with the cuban conflict a few months ago. Outstanding song. A Love at First Sight- What a sweet little song Colin has written here! "...what they want is!" B Rocket From a Bottle- Terry kicks ass here, as the sound of rockets being lit and set off can be heard in the background. Nice sound effects there, as the whole song typifies the effects Love has After the First Sighting...and the feeling one has after that First Kiss... B+ No Language In Our Lungs- The songs at this point in the album all segue nicely into one another, which is Mr. Lillywhite's doing, I suppose. According to the Chalkhills Bio, this is one of Andy's favourite songs. This song is particularly cool because I often mishear the lyrics, singing to myself, "there is no language in our LOVE"...which would be more typically Andy (or would it?). Anyways, this is probably my second or third best off the album. Very cool ending , with what seems to be a conversation going on (Andy? Dave? Colin? What are they saying?). If anyone knows what they are saying, ring in immediately! A- Towers of London- Has anyone seen the making of this? Valuable and informative footage, an insight as to the recording processes of XTC at the time of this record. How bout using this for a Tourism ad for London? Splendid, absolutely Fabulous, mates! B+ Paper and Iron- My monthly salary/payday song, this one is very cool! "Workin' for Paper and for Iron, Work for the right to keep my Tie on! " Ah, yes, Capatilism is alive and well! A Burning With Optimisms Flames- One of the best Live XTC songs, a very positive song! A- Sgt. Rock (is going to help me)- I, like Andy, used to collect comic books as a teenager, and though I wasn't a Sgt. Rock fan, I am a fan of this song, if only for the typically witty Andy lyric, "...make the girl mine, wave the Victory sign" (and, no, I don't see what all the fuss is over the supposed Male Chauvinistic overtones of the song. Chill out! HEY! SARGE! ROCK! B+ Travels In Nihilon- More aptly titled, "Travels in Nippon"! Many young Japanese have this image they think they have to maintain, or these lofty expectation of not only themselves, but of others, (especially when it comes to image and fashion and materialistic wealth), which makes them a bit shallow, a bit spoiled, and rather undesirable. Depressing, haunting, Reality 101 kids. A- Don't Lose Your Temper- Is it just me, or is this nothing more than Red Pt. 2? Still, not bad! B Smokeless Zone- The music, the melody on this one is very swirling, like a tide pool of smoke trying to draw you in, but you steadfastily maintain your position in the eye of the Smoke-cane, and succeed in staying in the Smokeless Zone. The American Cancer Society would love to adopt this song, and what a good sense of humor they have! Hey Colin, Today I Smoke! ;-b B The Somnambullist- Another Brian Eno tribute? Or Phillip Glass? A song that sticks out from the rest on the album, because it doesn' really fit the Live/Stage show, does it? BTW, does anyone know if this song was ever recorded/performed live? Nice, hollow, vaccum/tunnel sounds. B Not quite in order, but looking at the averages, I'm gonna have to give BS a BIG....B+/a- ! A couple of questions: Why was Terry spooked/scared while making this album? What is a "Somnambullist?" What is being said during the spoken word/conversation end of No Language in our Lungs? In two weeks: The end of May brings us to thoughts of a quiet, "normal", ....English Settlement! -Michael W.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199605052237.PAA20132@sgi.sgi.com> Date: Sun, 05 May 96 18:25:20 EDT From: Melissa Reaves <MREAVES@KENTVM.KENT.EDU> Subject: **Clarification** Hey, all. Just a quickie. Hope everyone didn't misunderstand my 1 am posting from the next-to-last issue. Just Bob T.(yes, the work's going well and thanks for asking). I don't mind one little bit when we go off topic. I'm as guilty as anyone. And I love it when y'all post your recommendations on other music. How else should I know what to buy? I was just cranky 'cause it felt like I was reading the same thing over and over. That's no one's fault either, but we should endeavor to send factual answers directly to the poster. (I do plan to try some chocolate fingers soon and I plan to give Mr. Matthews another listen on the Border's listening station). (actually those belong in different categories: fact (which should go directly to the questioner) and music review (which should go out to all of us so we all know what to buy). Wow. Looks like I may actually be more coherent at 1 a.m. Scary. Anyway, I just wanted to clear that up. Obligatory XTC content: I'm all for compensating Andy for his WONDERFUL songs which I am lucky enough to have a copy of. Also for those Xtatic demos which I now feel really bad for having one of. Personally, I couldn't care less about hearing the demo version of songs I have. I just want NEW SONGS!!! Really new, or just new to me. For a second that thought became a sword in my hand. --Melissa
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:49:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199605061149.MAA32540@lix.intercom.es> From: Luc Haasnoot <andpe@lix.intercom.es> Subject: XTC song or not? Hello All, A friend of mine saw a documentary about Amsterdam football (soccer, for all you Americans) club Ajax on Dutch television. The program ended with some music, which he possibly identified as "XTC". However he is not an XTC fan; he hardly knows them at all. He mailed me some of the lyrics he recalled, but I don't recognize them. So, I either have to admit that I don't know the whole XTC catalogue (which is true; 2 of their regular albums are missing in my record collection and I don't have a lot of rare material), or my friend got it wrong assuming the music was from XTC. The latter would be the most interesting, since it would give us an idea how people that in fact don't know the band _think_ XTC sounds. That is, we may get a clearer view of the image that XTC has for people that actually don't know them. Apart from that, I am just curious. (And if it is XTC, I really need to get a tape of the program, since it would combine two of my favorites: Ajax and XTC!) So here are the lyrics: This is the land where I was born in the bosom of technology ... (chorus) It's not the ending of the world just the closing of a discotheque ... But that's a long long time ago Does it ring a bell to anyone? I am not too good at lyrics anyhow, so don't shoot me if this happens to be from one of XTC's most famous songs! Thanks, Lucas
------------------------------ Message-ID: <04BCD62F01291300@ametsoc.org> Date: Mon, 6 May 96 12:45:00 -0500 From: dgershmn <dgershmn@ametsoc.org> Organization: AMS Subject: One Way to Make an XTC Convert Hello, Chalkhill People, Regarding the process of converting people to XTC, this is just a quick note on my personal recipe for success. This may seem obvious to some of you, but if you know anyone who is a big fan of the Beatles, make them a compilation tape of your XTC favorites, spanning all the albums, with a bit more emphasis on post-"Drums and Wires" albums. Give them the tape, with a request to please listen to it at least a couple of times before coming to any conclusions about it. Make sure they agree to this (just to help compensate for short attention spans and such). In my experience, the same things that appeal to Beatle fans so much about the Beatles will also appeal to them about XTC, and they will find many parallels in the musical growth of both groups. [I see "White Music" as XTC's "Meet the Beatles," "Black Sea" as their "Revolver," "Skylarking" as their "Sgt. Pepper," "Oranges and Lemons" as their "White Album" (if only because it too was a double-album on vinyl), and "Nonesuch" as something like their "Abbey Road," though the analogy falters somewhat there, I'll admit, and of course we hope that XTC will continue on beyond that, unlike the Beatles.] In any case, I have had success with several people this way, and they have subsequently become diehard fans. This doesn't help in converting non-Beatles fans, of course, but even in this way I feel like I've helped spread the ecstasy of XTC that much more. Dave Gershman "I'm a 30-year-old puppy doing what I'm told."
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 14:11:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <ccoolidg@moose.uvm.edu> Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-109 Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960506135208.145500A-100000@moose.uvm.edu> I'm about to throw a wrench into someone's theory; I first became aware of XTC when Drums And Wires came out. I heard "Making Plans For Nigel" once on the radio and wrote them off as just another watered down quirky British new wave/pop band. I was far from impressed. I was also a punk rocker wannabe who frowned on anything softer than The Jam(aside from The Talking Heads and Television, who were okay because they were from NYC). The first XTC song that caught my attention was "Living Through Another Cuba," which I heard on a college hallmate's stereo and thought was from the new Joe Jackson album. Eventually I realised it was XTC, this band I'd dismissed based on one song. At about the same time I started going out with an obsessive XTC fan who not only talked me into getting Black Sea, but reintroduced me to their entire back catalogue. Since then, every subsequent new album of theirs keeps me on my toes. I never know what to expect from these boys. Just when I thought they couldn't possibly do something different and still sound like XTC, they've proved me wrong. I haven't been able to turn my wife onto them either, though she did recognise "Senses Working Overtime" from her top 40 salad days in the early 80's. She's at least vaguely aware that she'd like them if she made the effort, but she prefers listening to the same five Air Supply and Carly Simon albums over and over. She's comfortable with what's familiar.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 96 16:15:05 CDT From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <tbernhardt@aga.com> Message-Id: <9604068314.AA831420844@cc.perftech.com> Subject: XTC and, um , Hootie Hello. I'm Todd Bernhardt, and I'm a Chalkaholic. Thanks. Now that I've got that offa my chest, here's an interesting little tidbit from Sunday's _Washington Post_. In an article by critic Richard Harrington titled, "Hootie: Why the Hue and Cry?", was the following paragraph: "Critics look at the [Hootie] songs and suggest a slick betrayal of pop craft. It's not that they don't like four-minute pop songs. It's just that they prefer them from obstinately obscure bands such as the Posies, XTC or, more recently, the Cardigans ..." Are our boys "obstinately obscure"? I think not! I think they'd happily accept popularity (and the cash rewards that go with it)! I'd love to see 'em get it, too, but it would mean that I'd have to dig up some respect for the music business... FunkPopARoll for fish in shoals... (Look! Over there! It's Hootie!) ByeBye!
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199605062355.XAA29281@aoife.indigo.ie> From: "Daniel Prendiville" <modjp@indigo.ie> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:04:42 +0000 Subject: videos Hello... Far be it for me to precipitate on any one's parade (especially being a parvenue member of the XTC fraternity), but can we have a little less of the fantasy video meanderings of some of our correspondents, please? Frankly, I find a lot of it rather embarrassing. I would have thought that most XTC fans would be of a "certain age" (i.e. 30+) and would, accordingly have more common sense than to rant on about seagulls with human faces etc. At this point in time, I would have thought that most XTC fans have been faced with some, if not all, of the fundamental choices that most denizens of Western civilisation (including the members of XTC themselves) would have had to face (e.g. marriage, children, mortgages, carrier decisions etc.). In that light, is it not possible to discuss a matter of common interest in a matoor (for our American correspendents) manner, rather than to indulge in childish speculation about a media which is vacuous in content and manipulative in intent? Or was that question mark prematoor? Not to mention the fundamental question of whether the Internet (bow and scrape) is populated by overeducated nerds who badly need to get a life. Wake up and smell the coffee Yours in costarica Daniel Prendiville I would hate to think that
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