Chalkhills Digest Volume 2, Issue 62
Date: Tuesday, 30 January 1996
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 62
Tuesday, 30 January 1996
Today's Topics:
origins
Beauty
Best of '95/ The Quiz/Harold Budd/Blur
"Laughing Man" Revisited
Re: Aimee, Dave and Andy
Testimonial Dinner
Acoustical O&L?
RE: Chalkhills Digest #2-61
Martin Newell: Rumor No More
Re: Royalties; Lyrics (#2-61)
Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-61
25 O'Clock's singers
Umajets
The Clash
TD - An Obscene Abomination
Re: Blur or TD for B. Elton
Rankings
Some Good News Of XTC
chalkhills and ?
Utter trivia
Directory
Dave Mattacks encounter
Animated Andy
This and that
Classical Training or Wot?
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Kuchmek <gkuchmek@soho.nyc.prodigy.com> Subject: origins Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 00:11:39 +0000 (GMT) I'm sorry but I need to know the answer to this old question. I've asked elsewhere, but only relieved roundabout answers. What is the origin of the band name XTC? Is it related to the drug MDMA(ecstasy)? I also recall hearing stories of the bands past drug use with one story putting Mr. Partridge in the hospital as a result of said drug use! To me, it seems highly possible, especially when I'm trying to decipher the lyrics to "Senses Working Overtime"! I know that stuff like this usually is avoided and pushed into the back, but if any of it is true than it would seem to be worthy of being posted as legitimate history of the band. If no body wants to discuss it openly, please email me at gkuchmek@soho.nyc.prodigy.com
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From: Ben Gott <BENG@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us>
Subject: Beauty
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 19:37:00 est
>I think it's the most beautifullest love song Andy's ever did (while One of
>the Millions continues to be my most favorite beautifullest Colin's song,
>though The Good Things is rapidly closing in).
I think that Andy's most beautiful song is "Jump" (beauty is in the eye of
the beholder...) Colin's most beautiful is "Sacrificial Bonfire" (I should
know--I just did about 800 takes of it, and sent one in to "Skylacking.")
BTW: Notice the new "Song of the Day" layout...The song, and then a favorite
quote/phrase from it. Hope this gets people back to listening and
appreciating Colin & Andy's lyrics!
Ben
http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/58596/home.html
XTC SONG OF THE DAY: Are You Receiving Me? ("I put it in a
letter...")
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 16:53:37 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Best of '95/ The Quiz/Harold Budd/Blur well, others are doing it, so why not - my most enjoyable album purchases of '95: Dream (U. Srinivas & Michael Brook). Spacious world ambience. En mana kuoyo (Ayub Ogada). Wonderul gentle Kenyan music. Suspiria (Miranda SexGarden). Soaring voices. Indescribable. Kaksi! (Hedningarna). Bizarre Scandinavians singing rock/folk with gusto. Whip-smart (Liz Phair). Sassy, catchy pop. One woman Bangles with attitude. Bright Red (Laurie Anderson. The sweet, gentle voice of doom. Thrak (King Crimson). A long overdue welcome back to the angriest sound of the planet. Before we go Under (The Magick Heads). The art of pure pop, alive and well in the south. You and Oblivion (Robyn Hitchcock). Oddments and outtakes, like a surrealist's scrapbook. Strange Cargo III (William Orbit). Smooth and dancey techno. Honourable mentions: The Downward Spiral (NIN); Laid (James); Sugar Mouth (David Kilgour); Thunderhead (Clouds); Original Soundtracks 1 (Passengers); Dark Adapted Eye (Danielle Dax - thanks Will!); Lunapark (Luna). Best of '96 so far: My Friend the Chocolate Cake (MFTCC). Gentle, wistful Australian music, heavy on piano and violins. Their version of John Cale's "Buffalo Ballet" is wondrous. --- Miles D. Coleman <coleman@cougarnet.byu.edu> did very well: >and a little quiz for everyone else - find these quotes! They're all from >just five XTC albums: O&L, Mummer, Skylarking, TBE & Black Sea. Well, it's early in the morning and I'm irritated that I cannot find this last quote! I'm sure I'll kick myself in the trash for missing it! How's 14 out of 15? The Caves of Memory... well, it's cheating a little, because it's not on all versions of the album, I think. "From pools of xylophone clear, from caves of memory, I saw the children at heart that we once used to be" two beautiful lines from the much maligned "Mermaid Smiled". The rest you got spot on. --- RCroz75755@aol.com asked: >Who Is Harold Budd? Harold Budd is a classically trained keyboardist who has been putting out wonderful, melancholy ambient albums since 1971. His best, IMHO, are "The White Arcades" and "The Plateaux of Mirrors", the latter being one of his two collaborations with Brian Eno. He's also done one very fine album with the Cocteau Twins, entitled "The Moon and the Melodies". --- as for the great Blur debate, there are XTC tinges, but mre the Jam and the Kinks. The other major influence I hear in Blur (not a bad band, but hardly the new XTC) that no-one's mentioned yet is Madness. Songs like "Stereotypes" and "Fade Away" make me think of Suggs and Co. every time I hear them. James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno)
------------------------------ Subject: "Laughing Man" Revisited From: wwilson@mail07.mitre.org (Wesley H. Wilson) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 09:48:39 -0500 Dear Mr. Yazbek: I played "The Laughing Man" this morning. It really hit me the right way! Maybe because I felt good (must be that rice milk and Manuka honey diet I've been on :-)). I'm starting to appreciate more of the album, but sadly these days I rarely seem to have time to delve into the intricacies of any one record. That being said... Really like the opening track. Is this, perchance, a fair approximation of your living quarters? Particularly like the electric piano solo. (In fact, the solos on this album are consistently decent.) "Mississippi Honeymoon" and "The Go-Go Years" were the first two tracks I'd heard; they sold me on picking up the album. Gotta get the Japanese version for "The Go-Go Years," though. "Black Cowboys on the Beach" - when I first heard this, I immediately thought: "a sideways glance at Steely Dan?" Still think so. "666" - demonic coda. Black humor. "Bug on the Water" - XTC like! Tripping over itself to get to the next hook. "tape over me, save yourself some dough" (smile) Beach Boys in here, too. Anyway, those are some highlights I found. Gotta go 4 now! Wes
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:06:28 -0600 (CST) From: kimw@rice.edu (Kim E. Williams) Subject: Re: Aimee, Dave and Andy From: Peter <ST002436@BROWNVM.brown.edu> Subject: Aimee, Dave and Andy In a recent interview in the local newspaper Aimee Mann briefly discussed her tour with Dave Gregory and Andy's appearance on stage with her. Apparently she and Dave were romantically involved at the time of the tour and she had Andy on to play tambourine while she sang Collideascope. During the course of the song she encouraged Andy to come sing and he wound up belting it out much louder than she could have. And for the record, Aimee is apparently dating Michael Penn now. *---------------------------- According to the Little Express, Dave and Aimee were romantically involved, but it was Dave who asked Andy if he'd be willing to do it first, not Aimee. Andy had agreed to sing Collideascope before he ever set foot on the stage. At the end of the tour, she dumped her entire band, and dumped Dave romantically at the same time. Sorry, but I get a little peeved when someone tries to take credit for something when it was someone else's doing! "...So judge me not for what I did, but for what I didn't do." Best Thing - Peter Blegvad
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 12:02 EST From: Jeffrey Langr <0005392548@mcimail.com> Subject: Testimonial Dinner >from LaShawn M. Taylor: LMT> And speaking of TD, has this CD grown on anyone else ever since LMT> they've brought it? I've been listening to it a lot more this LMT> month and most of my opinions when I'd first bought it has changed, LMT> particularly Another Satellite and Dear God. Can't get either of LMT> those songs out my head. Ah well. I suppose that's a good thing. Yup, sure has. I hated it at first, but now I appreciate most of it; The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul is the only song I find really annoying at this point. Blatant XTC Ad: Vintage XTC Vinyl for Sale or Trade (for CD's of various artists). Drop me a line at 0005392548@mcimail.com if interested. Jeff L.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:36:14 -0600 (CST) From: Erik Anderson <aa393@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca> Subject: Acoustical O&L? Does anyone have a copy of xTc's "Acoustical O&L"? I would love a copy and have a lot to trade for it. Please reply via personal e-mail. Erik Anderson
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 13:09:36 PST From: National Advertising Division <review1@panix.com> Subject: RE: Chalkhills Digest #2-61 Hi all ye faithful, I've been lurking in the shadows of Chalkhills for a while but this is my first post. I've been a fan for a long time and actually got to see the boys back in 1980 at the Capitol Theatre in Pasaic, NJ. Shame they don't tour. Anyway, I've a couple of questions. I just picked up the "This Is Live" bootleg CD and although the sound quality of the performance is very good, there are lots of pops and scratches as if it was mastered from an old LP, does anyone know anything about this boot? Also, just recently picked up a mint copy of the 3D EP, is that valuable? Finally, is there anybody out there who likes to trade tapes? If so, please e-mail privately at <review1@panix.com>. Cheers, Barry
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 17:51 CDT From: John Johanneson <JOHANNESON@macc.wisc.edu> Subject: Martin Newell: Rumor No More Sorry is this is old news... I just picked up Martin Newell's "Off White Album" as a Japanese import. The track list is as on the Chalkhills website "Rumored" section. Data: Humbug Records a fork of Trident Music Inc., 1996. Dist. on the Rhyme label of Midi Inc., cat.# MDCP-4069. XTC involvement: * Dave Gregory plays 'the clever guitars' (as opposed to MN's contributions) * "Andy Partridge was tied up with his songwriting but occasionally yelled encouragement from the sidelines." * One of the songs was written (in part) in Andy's kitchen. That's it! John
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 17:14:49 -0800 (PST) From: A Sattler <ahs@nevada.edu> Subject: Re: Royalties; Lyrics (#2-61) Thanks to everyone who explained the royalty situation re. the .66 paid to the songwriter for each copy sold, etc, etc. One thing however: it would be pretty fab for Andy to make all that money on a cover of "Shiny Cage" since Colin wrote it. In re. to: From: Jdmack01@aol.com Subject: Lyrics >In "Rip Van Ruben," Andy sings "Dream your Frank L. Richards and this is >the great land of Oz." Did he mean Frank L. Baum, the author of the Oz >books? Or, who is Frank L. Richards? Yes, he meant Frank L. Baum. He admits he goofed -- see the Reflex article from May 1992. There is no Frank L. Richards. cheers, Annie, librarian in residence
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 23:04:45 -0600 From: shonniet@interaccess.com (LaShawn M. Taylor) Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-61 >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 17:48:07 +0100 (MET) >From: markus gruber <h9150394@obelix.wu-wien.ac.at> >3. I think it was me, who - some weeks ago - stopped all the bruhaha >about 'who sing which song' by shouting (not just saying), that the >composer is always the singer. Well, two nights ago I listedened to the >Chips from the Chocolate Fireball Anthology by the Dukes of Stratosphear >and the result is: > .......i'm not quite sure anymore......... > .......i feel deeply ashamed.............. > .......please forgive me, everyone i shouted at..... > .......please help me by saying something........... Oh, come over here, Klaus. Here. Have a seat <sniffle>. Yes, <sniff> we understand <sniff, sniff>. We understand perfectly <whimper, sob>. WE FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!!!! <buckets o' tears> WAHHHHHH!!!! But seriously, after careful listening, I realized that your previous post was right, the composer is the singer. 1, 2, and 4 is actually Andy, doing funky things with his voice. How do I know? If you listen to his demo "It's Snowing Angels" that flat, almost country voice, along with the ad libs, is him (he mentioned it in some article -- can't remember it though). Colin has been guilty of this little trick also (check out Grass and Dying. It took me a while to believe it was him singing in a lower register). (handing over a tissue box) Now. Don't you feel better? LaShawn M. Taylor *-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh, my head is spinning like the world | shonniet@flowbee.interaccess.com at the kind of beasts I've seen | Watch for my brand spanking new Let me put my bag down and I'll tell | home page coming soon to an URL about it from the start. . .xTc | near you (knuckle down!!) *--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ From: box@nemesis.com.au Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:14:30 -0500 Subject: 25 O'Clock's singers #> Please tell me, anyone who knows for sure, who sings what on the #> 25 o'clock album tracks 1, 2 and 6? I don't know for sure, but I think it's Colin on 25 O'Clock, I'm pretty sure it's Andy on Bike Ride To The Moon, and I'm _definitely_ sure it's Colin on The Mole From The Ministry. :) Oh, and after hearing Collideascope a few times, I'm dead sure that's Colin as well. Andy can't distort his voice as well as Colin can [look at Grass compared with The Meeting Place]. It sounds like Andy's trying his hardest to change his voice on Albert Brown, but you can still tell it's him. One more Chips musing -- I didn't like The Affiliated once, but I listened to the lyrics yesterday and noticed how they work with the music, and now I love it. This album's full of Colin gems... Adam
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 06:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Opdyke <gs02dco@panther.gsu.edu> Subject: Umajets Fellow Chalkies: Jellyfish is back with a vengeance! The Umajets, made up of a former Jellyfish member and a guy from local Atlanta faves Thing1-Thing2, debuted in Atlanta last night at the Cotton Club. They did a rousing version of Vanishing Girl! Much of their material was very, powerfully Jellyfish-like. This five peice outfit rocks in a way most XTC fans would appreciate. And, since they are XTC fans themselves, I'm sure they'll keep doing covers. Their CD "Umajets" was being snatched up by a good percentage of the large crowd. Check out the Umajets. Dr. Dan
------------------------------ From: 7IHd <ee92pmh@brunel.ac.uk> Subject: The Clash Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:22:10 +0000 (GMT) Just grabbed a copy of 'London Calling' on (French!) CD single, on the basis that "hmm, classic song, haven't heard it for ages, gotta be worth having". Is it just me, or is Joe Strummer Andy Partridge's long lost cousin or something? I'd forgotten just how good that song was... Any views? _ |_)|_ *| | | )|| http://http2.brunel.ac.uk:8080/~ee92pmh/ ========
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From: alanzman@deltanet.com
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:04:19 -0800
Subject: TD - An Obscene Abomination
>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:58:43 -0600
>From: shonniet@interaccess.com (LaShawn M. Taylor)
>
>
>And speaking of TD, has this CD grown on anyone else ever since they've
>brought it? I've been listening to it a lot more this month and most of my
>opinions when I'd first bought it has changed, particularly Another
>Satellite and Dear God. Can't get either of those songs out my head. Ah
>well. I suppose that's a good thing.
TD is a most obscene abomination of an album. That I... I... It is trash.
It is dirt, it is filth. Whatever possessed them to produce such a
disgusting, degenerate type album as that? And I am complimenting it by
even considering it an album.
*!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!*
Alan Z (but you already knew that)
*!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!**!@#@!*
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:35:14 -600 (CST) From: Lars Schubert <larss@scisoc.org> Subject: Re: Blur or TD for B. Elton Hello, everyone! I'm looking for a copy of "Gridlock" by Ben Elton, which has not been published in the U.S.A., unbelievably. It's available here and there, but I would like to propose a trade: Testimonial Dinner or Blur's Great Escape for either "Gridlock" or Elton's first book, "Stark". Straight up. If anyone's interested, please e-mail me privately (larss@scisoc.org). Thanks! -Lars
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:47 -0700 (MST) From: Miles & Gigi Coleman <coleman@cougarnet.byu.edu> Subject: Rankings As I was pondering my own response to the solicited XTC album ranking, I wondered why I had ranked them the way I did. After some thought I came to the realization that I was not only ranking them by how much I liked each album, but also by the memories that accompanied each. For example, I think that musically, as a whole, I prefer Black Sea over Oranges and Lemons. However, in my ranking I put O&L before BS, because at the time O&L was released I was very interested in a woman who had similar musical tastes as mine and we eagerly recieved the new album together. Those memories influenced my rankings more than straightforward logic. The same holds true of some the others. Has anyone else found the same? BTW, I unexpectedly found and purchased the BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert for a mere $15.00! I had thought for sure that if I ever did find it I was going to have to turn over my weekly wages. This is the first time I have heard the boys live and it really was fascinating! "Burning with Optimism's Flame" never sounded so good! Miles Coleman "Dreadful knitwear"
------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 96 04:02:33 EST From: Danny Manners <100637.2212@compuserve.com> Subject: Some Good News Of XTC I had the good fortune to spend a day in the studio recently with Dave Gregory. A really sweet guy, not to mention wonderful guitarist of course. Dave was guesting on an album I'm working on for Louis Philippe (incidentally the producer of Martin Newell's Off-White Album). The good news is that XTC are *not* folding, and have *finally* agreed a settlement with Virgin/EMI. I didn't get any of the details, but Dave said the paperwork would be signed in a couple of weeks. Then of course they'll have to start seriously looking for another label, so we're still going to have to wait a while for a new album. But for now at any rate the band have every intention of continuing.
------------------------------ From: CRAIG OSBORNE <SGLCEO@cardiff.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:15:06 GMT Subject: chalkhills and ? this posting isn't all that relevant to the general flow of things (is nonesuch a sack of cack ? etc. ) but i think it's pretty interesting nonetheless. Anyway, I was flipping through a back issue, No. 81, of Fortean Times ( John Brown Publlishing ) when i spotted an article about the Uffington Chalk Horse, as advertised on the cover of English settlement. Last year some boffins from oxford university dated the excavation of the horse to within the period 1400 - 600 BC, about a thou years earlier than previous estimates. Yeah,Yeah, big deal, i know .. but the same article mentioned the view that the " horse " looks more feline than equine and even has what appear to be whiskers. whadaya think ?
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:30:43 +0000 From: fisher@easynet.co.uk (Mark Fisher) Subject: Utter trivia You don't need to know this but there's a novel recently published in Britain called English Settlement, and I've just come across a British dance-theatre company called Nonsuch Productions. I've no reason to believe that either of them has anything to do with XTC. In fact no reason to waste your time at all. Sorry. Mark Fisher (fisher@easynet.co,uk)
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From: Ben Gott <BENG@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us>
Subject: Directory
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 16:53:00 est
Hey, kids! Guess what? "Chalkhills" is in Eric Braun's book _The Internet
Directory_ (right between "CGSA-L", or the Chinese Graduate Student
Association, and "Chaosium Digest", a "weekly forum used to discuss
Chaosium's role playing games, including Call of Cthulhu, Elric!, Elfquest,
Pendragon, and many others.")
Betcha didn't know *that*!
Ben
http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/58596/home.html
XTC SONG OF THE DAY: Helicopter ("Look out, town!")
------------------------------ From: Keith Hanlon <ad180@seorf.ohiou.edu> Subject: Dave Mattacks encounter Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:01:31 -0500 (EST) In May of 1995, I met Dave Mattacks (drummer on Nonsuch) at a vintage drum show in Chicago. After the show, we had dinner together. Aaahh... so close to XTC, yet so far! Mattacks did say that he is good friends with Dave Gregory, and that Gregory and Colin Moulding are itching to play out. Mattacks maintained that it was something Andy is seriously considering, but it all depends on a variety of personal issues that I am not willing to discuss here. Oh yes: Mattacks also told me about working in the studio with Andy. He says that it was one of his greatest experiences in his career (not bad coming from someone who was a friend of John Bonham!). Please check out Dave Mattacks on albums by Richard Thompson, Fairport Convention, Joan Armatrading, and Jethro Tull. He's an excellent musician (as you can tell from Nonsuch).
------------------------------ From: Richard Aaron Manfredi <manfredi@scf.usc.edu> Subject: Animated Andy Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:18:13 -0800 (PST) Browsing through the Chalkhills Web Site, I had a chance to re-read the interview with Andy Partridge where he documents being approached by Disney to do the songs for an animated musical version of James and the Giant Peach. I had let it slip my mind until a friend of mine mentioned seeing a preview for the movie when she saw Toy Story. She said it looked very good, even though it was definately British. I mentioned the Disney thing, and she said she didn't remember it being a definately Disney project, but since they seem to secretly have their hands in everything, then who knows? I was curious if anyone knows what is going on w/ the movie, then? Also, the same article mentions Andy doing a voice for a remake of Tubby the Tuba, for Paul McCartney's film company. Anyone know anything about this, either? Richard Manfredi manfredi@usc.edu
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 13:55:41 CST
From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <tbernhardt@aga.com>
Subject: This and that
Jdmack01@aol.com asks:
>I may have asked this before, but I got no answer, so here goes. Near the
>end of the live "Set Myself On Fire" from the "Towers of London" twin pack,
>Andy and Colin are chanting some phrase over and over again that I simply
>cannot make out. Does anyone know what it is?
It's always sounded like "Not supposed to hurt yourself!" to me. But I've
been wrong about XTC lyrix before.
Klaus Bergmaier pointed out:
>2. In all your highly amusing and interesting 1995 album reviews all of
>you forgot k.d.lang's "All You Can Eat". This album is one of the best
>productions I've ever heard (give and take the songwriting).
Gotta agree with with this one, and, like Klaus, my only gripe is that it's
only 36 minutes long. They could have literally fit twice as much music on
there! Oh well, I'd rather have quality than quantity, I guess.
And Ben Gott <BENG@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us> points out:
>I think it's time that we found out some more information about the
>"contract", and where things stand at this point...
>VIRGIN RECORDS UK: raft@vmg.co.uk
>GEFFEN RECORDS: emax@sas.upenn.edu (college representative)
>EMI: hinzman@inx.net
>Happy e-mailing!
YES!!!
Hey, many hosannas to Phil Corless, who made up one bitchin' Chalkhills
T-shirt. I am now the envy of my neighborhood. Now, they can scratch their
heads in even more bewilderment as I drive around in my car with its "XTC
FAN" license plate wearing my Chalkhills T-shirt. ("Whut the HELL is an
XTC, Martha?") Oh, and nice to see you're a Firesign Theater fan,
Mr. Relph.
One more thing: I need help, chalkholios. I cannot for the life of me find
"The World's Greatest Living Englishman" or "Through the Hill" in any of my
local (Northern Virginia-area) record stores. Any suggestions?
ByeBye!
------------------------------ From: Ewalther@eworld.com Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:08:45 -0800 Subject: Classical Training or Wot? Sitting here on a cold winters day bouncing between ES and Bach and hearing very similar arrangements with strings, melody & variations makes me wonder does anyone out there know what kind of 'training' our lads (esp. Dave) have in so called classical music?
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