Chalkhills Digest, Volume 4, Number 48 Tuesday, 3 February 1998 Today's Topics: CC '97: The Comment on the Review Re: Anti-Branson sentiments bits of Chalk scattered in every direction No More Vinyl? Columbia Horse My thoughts on TESTIMONIAL DINNER It's official: Andy is a guitar hero! Six Degrees of XTC degrees of separation Re: Six Degrees of XTC RE: Ben Gott's Six step links & misc. things Six 'reaching' Degrees LOST IN MUSIC and the AP demos Re: XTC Report Erik Anderson redux Nonsense An open letter to Andy Re: Easter Theatre Lordy lordy..... Elvis Re: Six Degrees of XTC Six degrees of XTC Attention Chalkhills Children '97 Contributors CC 97 Applause Administrivia: XTC products: <http://chalkhills.org/product/> To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is digested with Digest 3.5b (John Relph <relph@sgi.com>). Hello and down comes the rain.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <s4d5da6b.023@phjw.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 14:38:25 -0800 From: "MARK G. CUEVAS" <MGCUEVAS@phjw.com> Subject: CC '97: The Comment on the Review In CC#4-46, MARKROCKS wrote: > Snowman: OK, maybe I'm biased because this is the song that > really got me hooked on XTC in the first place, but I really dig > this version. Groovy. > Very true to the original yet somehow your own at the same time. Thanks. I'm glad you appreciate what we were trying to accomplish. We wanted to capture alot of the original (which we love) but we also wanted something totally unique (the last bit). One of my favorites in this is the sound Jeff got with the backing (frosty) vocals. IMO Jeff got that effect just right. > Great drums, I love the plinky piano sound. And don't forget the > Mid-eastern drum/keyboard coda. Er, the only plinky piano is in the intro which occurs just before Jeff's cat, "Bear," dutifully played his chime part. [The damn cat is seeking Union wages and has hired a publicist]. ;) But I digress. Back to the "piano." What you're actually hearing is Jeff's amazing *guitar* part. This is not midi. Jeff played this throughout. It's so stinkin' clean! > If push came to shove, I might have to tag this track my favorite. Well thank you kindly once again. We like you. As for *our* favorites, we've already emailed Harrison. What a tremendous effort. His version of RbR absolutely cooks. I'm also rather partial to Toys, Punch & Judy and Down a Peg. (In that regard, if anyone knows the email addresses of Randy Christopher and Steve Clarke, please let me know. I emailed the wrong Steve Clarke recently). There are of course others that we like quite a lot. More on that later. Now Playing: CC '97 and Twiggy, Twiggy (Pizzicato Five)
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:47:17 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <v01540b05b0fcb4ddc954@[139.80.53.151]> From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Anti-Branson sentiments >2) Richard Branson. Somebody recently posted here that they hoped Bransons >balloon would come crashing down in flames with him aboard. Now, isn't this >slightly over-reacting ? What has Branson done to deserve this vitriol ? >Do you think he woke up one morning , thought "what can I do today "? "I >know ...I'll kick XTC off the label !! At the time XTC were dropped, >Branson had relinquished all control of Virgin music and was totally >wrapped up in Virgin Air. If you have to blame somebody, find out who the >cretin was at Virgin who actually decided to drop XTC. I really don't think >Branson should be at all crucified. Also, lets not forget that Virgin >continued to finance XTC for years when most other labels would have >dropped them for lack of sales. They should get some credit for that even >though they made a total mess of it at the end. Alos let's not forget that Branson was so incensed at what the new owners have been doing with Virgin since he lost control that he set up a new label, V2. From what I gather (which may be inaccurate...) V2 was a direct response to some of the stupid decisions and corporate thinking which are rife at Virgin, and which he had tried to avoid during his time in charge. Virgin under Branson gave XTC the benefit of a lot of doubt as to the commerciality of their music. Most of the problems associated between Virgin and XTC seem to have been caused by incompetent under-managers and sthady accounting on the part of middlemen, rather than through any fault of Branson (these problems could, mind you, have been partly caused by Branson's own lack of 'corporate thinking'). James
------------------------------ Message-Id: <72EDB966944AD1118DC90080D82074882BC390@ex-campus2> From: "Pedretti-Allen, Richard" <Richard.PedrettiAllen@octel.com> Subject: bits of Chalk scattered in every direction Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:12:41 -0800 Chuckholes! re: Rob, the 17 year old drummer... Let us raise our glasses for the first and second generations! re: "I hope we're not reaching a flat era again." Er... that "flat era" was 1993 through 1997. It'll all be over in a few LONG months. re: Hazelnuts Against my therapist's better judgement, I would like to state that "Crocodile" reminds me of knotted nylons. ...oh, never mind. re: Testimonial Dinner review... (Terry & the Lovemen) ...I love [Colin's] Colinesque voice. ...Sign these lads up as the opening act on the forthcoming XTC tour ( a double shot of wishful thinking???) A bit more than "double", I'd say! Dave, "they" are one in the same. re: What is Chalkhills' Children? Chalkhills' Children '96 and '97 are XTC tribute tapes. They contain XTC songs (with one "medley-type" exception) that have been played, recorded, produced or otherwise generated by members of Chalkhills (for good or for bad). There is a wide variety of styles and qualities presented... some professional, some... let's just say, "less than professional." Only cassette tapes are available. The CDs you hear about are only provided to contributors and XTC themselves. For Rob, Suzanne and anyone interested in purchasing Chalkhills' Children '96 or '97, ordering information is available at http://chalkhills.org/children97.html email personally (rpa@lucent.com) if you can't get the CC96/97 data you seek there. Cheers, Richard
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199802022322.AAA15944@mail.knoware.nl> From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Organization: The Little Lighthouse Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:33:05 +0000 Subject: No More Vinyl? Dear Chalkers, A good friend told me that Cooking Vinyl is planning to distribute the new forthcoming XTC CD and tape. Does this really mean what it seems to imply ??? No more new lovely smelly XTC vinyl ? Arghhhhhhhhhhhh, surely this can't be true! As far as I know (AFAIK) our Heroes insisted on a vinyl release when they were looking for a new record deal so I'm unpleasantly surprised. Does anyone in the twilight of the gods know the score? Mitch, Mark F, Peter, anybody ??? yours in agony, Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse the XTC website @ http://come.to/xtc and http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello
------------------------------ Message-Id: <34D684B6.931A2411@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 21:45:18 -0500 From: Ben Gott <loquacious@iname.com> Organization: Loquacious Music - http://www.wp.com/58596 Subject: Columbia Horse Chalkers, You all might be interested to know that XTC is featured in my recent paper-wasting Columbia House mailing. Geffen Records, in an effort to get people to buy albums like Kylie Minogue's "Kylie" and "The Simpsons Sing the Blues" have gotten CH to put a "Geffen Records" insert in with their regular catalog. Included are "Nonsuch" (hailed as "a lyrical and musical masterpiece"), "Skylarking," "O&L," "Upsy Daisy," and "Waxworks." I also think the Freedy Johnston's "Earn Enough for Us" is one of the best things on "Testimonial Dinner." It's *so* Freedy...slide guitars, roots-rockish beat...All there...Check out "Never Home." -Ben Let's see how many Yazbek albums I can buy online tomorrow! VOTE "NO" - MAINE WON'T DISCRIMINATE! * ----------------------------------------------- * B e n G o t t :: Bowdoin College (207) 721-5142 :: Brunswick, ME 04011 And I've cancelled your subscription to my life. * ----------------------------------------------- *
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:04:30 -0500 (EST) From: Kara N Berryman <kberryma@indiana.edu> Subject: My thoughts on TESTIMONIAL DINNER Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980202224253.678F-100000@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu> Hi..... This is my first posting, because I just joined the list. I was planning on just sitting back and reading for awhile, but I feel compelled to respond to Dave's review of Testimonial Dinner. Yes, I do agree that overall I don't think the album is anything to wet yourself about. BUT--I have to disagree with some of his comments. ONE: Although I don't think Freedy Johnston's version of "Earn Enough For Us" is particularly earth-shattering, I disagree strongly with the condescending tone Dave used when talking about Freedy himself. He has as much right to be on the album as anyone else. In fact, I think he is a very talented musician. Have you heard "This Perfect World?" It is an incredible song and album! TWO: What makes "Wake Up" an incredible song in my book is the repeating female voices at the end of the song. Yes, the Verve Pipe's take on the song was different....and they left out the best part of the original! THREE: To contrast, Sarah MacLaclan's version of "Dear God" is different in a good way. No, she didn't rock it, but that is what makes it interesting. FOUR: Terry and the Lovemen are obviously XTC recording in disguise on their own tribute album because it was the only way they could legally record at the time. Listen to the vocal!! Terry is credited for guitar, bass, and vocals--but Chris Sharrock is credited for DRUMS. Is this not suspicious? Ok, that is all. I don't want to do a complete play-by-play of my opinions of all of the songs, but there were a few things I had to say. KARA
------------------------------ Message-ID: <01BD302D.42EC83E0.monkman@coastnet.com> From: Martin & Jamie Monkman <monkman@coastnet.com> Subject: It's official: Andy is a guitar hero! Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:51:51 -0800 Andy Partridge is one of the guitarists listed in the new (March 1998) issue of Guitar Player magazine in the article "Union Jacks: The 20 Most Influential Brit Pop Guitarists". There's a short blurb about Andy's legacy ("quirky melodies"), his gear, 11 fab tracks (4 of which Colin wrote!), and a photo of Andy and Dave apparently (obviously!) taken during the same session that yielded the photos used in the 1992 Guitar Player article on the pair. For those of us who get excited by these things, Andy's posing with Dave's Gretch, and Dave's got the Vox Phantom in hand. Martin Our homepage: http://www.coastnet.com/~monkman
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:00:34 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff <blukoff@alvord.com> Subject: Six Degrees of XTC Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980202215038.5178C-100000@hosebeast.alvord.com> > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:12:00 -0500 > From: Ben Gott <loquacious@iname.com> > > How about "Six Degrees of XTC"? Just tie XTC to any musician, in six > steps or less. Any takers? I'd be interested to see anyone tie Whitney > Houston, Tracey Ullman (yes, the awesome theme song/80's hit qualifies > her as a musician), Elvis Costello (I tried, but couldn't come up with > anything), and Hanson. Three of these stump me, but Elvis is easy enough. Elvis wrote "Boy With A Problem" (off "Imperial Bedroom") with Chris Difford; Chris Difford offered XTC the use of his studio to record "Firework" and now won't release the master tapes to the band. Benjamin Lukoff blukoff@alvord.com "She is by my side, and the sky is wide -- so let the sun shine bright" -- Ray Davies
------------------------------ Message-ID: <01BD3031.ABAB4160.monkman@coastnet.com> From: Martin & Jamie Monkman <monkman@coastnet.com> Subject: degrees of separation Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:21:32 -0800 Ben Gott asks in Chalkhills #4-47: >Any takers? I'd be interested to see anyone tie Whitney Houston, Stevie Wonder appears on Houston's "We Didn't Know" on the album "I'm Your Baby Tonight" (thanks to my wife for owning that gem!) Wonder also appears on the Eurythmics's song "There Must Be An Angel". Dave Stewart of Eurythmics produced Tom Petty's album "Southern Accents". Petty was in a band called the Travelling Wilburys, along with George Harrison. Harrison produced and played on parts of Badfinger's album "Straight Up"; other tracks on the album were produced by Todd Rundgren, who also produced XTC. >Tracey Ullman (yes, the awesome theme song/80's hit qualifies her as a >musician) Ullman's big "hit", "They Don't Know About Us", was written by and features background vocals by Kirsty MacColl. Ms. MacColl is (was?) married to producer Steve Lillywhite, who produced XTC. In fact, Lillywhite was slated to produce what became "Nonsuch" but was too busy producing Kirsty's "Electric Landlady" to make the XTC gig. >Elvis Costello (I tried, but couldn't come up with anything), Costello was one half of The Coward Brothers with T Bone Burnett (who also produced Costello's "King Of America" album). Mr. Burnett co-produced a track on his wife Sam Phillip's album "Martinis and Bikinis" with one Colin Moulding, who also played bass guitar on the song. >and Hanson. Can't be bothered! Martin Our homepage: http://www.coastnet.com/~monkman
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v03007804b0fc7ec4fc06@[209.86.100.203]> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:04:08 -0500 From: Curtiss Hammock <curtiss@macbeth.com> Subject: Re: Six Degrees of XTC > So, I'm standing in the shower this morning, trying to come up with a > new Chalkhills thread...and then it hit me, much like Kevin Bacon hit > the main characters of the scary movie "Sleepers": how about "Six > Degrees of XTC"? Just tie XTC to any musician, in six steps or less. > > Any takers? I'd be interested to see anyone tie Whitney Houston, Tracey > Ullman (yes, the awesome theme song/80's hit qualifies her as a > musician), Elvis Costello (I tried, but couldn't come up with anything), > and Hanson. Okay, call me a sucker, but here goes: *Tracey Ullman* (not too hard) Paul McCartney worked with her on one song (did some singing, as I recall). Paul also wrote the Badfinger hit, "Come and Get It." Aimme Mann did a cover of Badfinger's "Baby Blue" on a recent tribute album. Former Cavedog, Brian Stevens, has played with Aimee's touring band. Finally, Dave Gregory played on Brian's solo disc, "Prettier Than You." Whew! Didn't think I was going to make it in six or less. Curtiss *--------------------- Curtiss R.Hammock II MacBeth Design Atlanta, GA, USA curtiss@macbeth.com www.macbeth.com
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199802031003.KAA11165@hubble.ndsuk.com> From: Jon Holden-Dye <jholden-dye@ndsuk.com> Subject: RE: Ben Gott's Six step links & misc. things Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:02:23 -0000 A couple of reactions to 4-47 (quotes missing, as I'm using crap Mail software !). Cheers, Ben. Whitney Houston, to XTC, you ask. S'easy :- Whitney Houston Sang at the White House The White House Residence of the President of the U.S.A., Bill Clinton Bill Clinton Has a very famous "Pink Thing" "Pink Thing" XTC song of the day, on more than one occasion Re Mitch's long post :- Well, "Nonsuch" is certainly my favourite. I just view it as the next progression for the band, at the time. A continuation of a long process of maturation, that will, hopefully never stop ! Before that I thought they'd peaked with "Oranges and Lemons". Before that with "Skylarking" . . . . . And, I would not be in the least bit concerned if the album versions sounded identical to, or completely different from, the demos ! That's purely the band's province. Period. D.G.'s covers to be kept to the lucky few ? Not fair, he cried - Cream "Those were the Days", "I Feel Free", "SWALBR". They were my favourite band for many years (from the age of 14 onwards), when Clapton really was at his best. All that inner tension between Bruce and Baker, Bruce and Clapton . . . wonderful ! I'm that sad, I've got all the stuff on CD, as well as keeping the old vinyl. And as for The Nice "Diamond Hard Blue Apples of the Sun" AND "Happy Freuds". I'm distraught. I could go on ("Gypsy Eyes" - somebody please tell me how D.G. interprets all those guitar glissandos . . . Tull's "Love Story" - the only Tull song I'd admit to liking !), but won't. XTC Song of the Day: "Big Day" Non-XTC Song of the Day: Bob Dylan "Oxford Town" Cheers, Jon H-D
------------------------------ From: nihilon@crisscross.com Message-Id: <v03007800b0fd34a39518@[210.152.210.2]> Subject: Six 'reaching' Degrees Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:02:55 +0800 Chalkies, In response to Ben, >Any takers? I'd be interested to see anyone tie Whitney Houston, Tracey >Ullman (yes, the awesome theme song/80's hit qualifies her as a >musician), Elvis Costello (I tried, but couldn't come up with anything), >and Hanson. Am I reaching here? Dave Gregory covered a Beatles song on 1967. Paul McCartney once made a guest appearance in one of Tracey Ullman's video clips. (and it has been rumoured that they were seeing each other at one point) Dave Gregory covered a Beatles song on 1967. Paul McCartney wrote songs with Elvis Costello for Flowers In The Dirt. Dave Gregory covered a Beatles song on 1967. Lennon Produced an unreleased single for Mick Jagger in the early 70s. Tina Turner opened for the Stones at Altamont. The actress (I can't remember her name) played Tina in her autobiographical movie. The same actress is with Whitney Houston in Waiting To Exhale. Dave Gregory covered a Beatles song on 1967. Lennon Produced an unreleased single for Mick Jagger in the early 70s. The Dust Brothers produced tracks on the Stones 'Bridges To Babylon' album. Hanson was co-produced by The Dust Brothers. Are these all fair calls? Regards from The Saturday Club, Steve (MGV) The Right Reverend Send Me $10 - You will be healed! * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- But when you get all you need, it's never enough. (Terry Scott Taylor) * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ Message-ID: <34D713C0.6E5F@yha.attnet.or.jp> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 21:55:28 +0900 From: Colin <cseditas@yha.attnet.or.jp> Subject: LOST IN MUSIC and the AP demos RECOMMENDED READING!!! Apologies if this has been mentioned before (the book I'm going to mention is at least 3 years old). . . A friend just lent me a book called LOST IN MUSIC by Giles Smith. It's the author's account of his life as a music fan (obsessive), record collector, and would-be pop star. Very funny and revealing. Set in the late 70's/80's, XTC figure fairly prominently. I'm pretty sure anyone reading this list would LOVE this book . . . Giles Smith's pop accomplice was a guy called Martin Newell (his band: The Cleaners From Venus). LOST IN MUSIC mentions that Mr. Newell ended up recording an album with the help of our very own Mr. AP. Has anyone heard it? AP DEMOS I finally got hold of the AP demos over Xmas . . . A mixed bag. You and the Clouds . . . My Brown Guitar and Your Dictionary; these I'm expecting to be some of the best XTC songs yet. I'm hoping Prince of Orange, The Last Balloon and Church of Women don't make it. Do any 'in-the-know' people know the situation regarding what's in/out/undecided? Another question. (Sorry, I should post more often.) If I remember rightly, the album "Firework" is to have some Chinese characters on the cover. Anyone know which one(s)? Who chose it? No more questions. Bye for now. COLIN S.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <34D73216.167E@virl.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 10:04:54 -0500 From: James Campbell <campbell@virl.gsfc.nasa.gov> Organization: SSAI Subject: Re: XTC Report Mitch reported..... > Andy thought it was a shame that everyone had heard most of the > demos because he thinks a good part of the surprise of a totally > new batch of songs is now lost. In addition he's concerned that > those of us who have been listening to the demos for quite a while > may not like the studio versions if they veer even a little bit from > the demo versions which they surely will in several instances. AMEN!!! 'Tis like opening ones Christmas presents.....the previous year! Or as Andy would say, looking at his baby before its even born......... Demos....JUST SAY NO! Cheers, -- James
------------------------------ From: sharedon@mbcc.mass.edu Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:21:18 -0500 Message-Id: <98020310211812@mbcc.mass.edu> Subject: Erik Anderson redux Well, I'm now informed that Erik is no longer employed with the folks mentioned in my previous post about the XTC video scam, so PLEASE do not try to call him there. In no way, incidentally, do I believe he should be harassed about this. However, since so many people have lost their money, some, like myself, might at least wish a word with him. Sorry to take up even more bandwidth about this. The kindness of other Chalkhillians has, for me, more than made up for this one bad experience. Thank you all! Don
------------------------------ Message-ID: <34D73B12.38A9@sprintmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 10:43:14 -0500 From: Stormy Monday <stormymonday@sprintmail.com> Organization: Stormy Monday Enterprises Subject: Nonsense Folxtc, > Andy thought it was a shame that > everyone had heard most of the demos because he thinks a good part of the > surprise of a totally new batch of songs is now lost. In addition he's > concerned that those of us who have been listening to the demos for quite a > while may not like the studio versions if they veer even a little bit from > the demo versions which they surely will in several instances. The demos are gorgeous. I'm sure the new renditions on first listen will seem a bit odd, but will easily replace the demos as the definitive versions of the songs. XTC, like the Beatles, generate magic when they play together. John and Paul (and George) continued to write and record great songs after the break-up, but the records were not "Beatle" records. > Andy also noted > that he thought some of the orchestral things might really piss people off > and he based this on some of the Chalkhills printouts he has been reading > from the past few years in which Nonsuch was not as well liked as he > thought. B_A_L_D_E_R_D_A_S_H! P_O_P_P_Y_C_O_C_K! To borrow a phrase from the British, "Bloody Shite! What a load of bollocks!" I think that "Nonsuch" remains as one of the best albums of the nineties! I'm sorry to hear that a few people on this list have made Andy doubt what many of us consider to be a masterpiece. Excepting "Wardance", and "The Smartest Monkeys", the album is flawless. (For the record, "Wardance" and "Smartest" are still good songs, but Colin is capable of more eloquent lyrics). One of the most astonishing aspects of XTC's career has been their ability to consistently provide their listeners with new records that are truly new. Starting with "Drums & Wires" (some might argue "White Music"), each album has a distinctive sound and style. Many bands find a groove and stay there. Not XTC. I love "Nonsuch", and I'm certain that I won't be disappointed in "Firework". The orchestral arrangements on songs like "Easter Theater", "The Green Man" and "River of Orchids" are unique and wonderful. I am very anxious to hear the new record, and am certain that it will be brilliant. Stormy Monday
------------------------------ Message-ID: <n1325619135.56223@mac.aaos.org> Date: 3 Feb 1998 11:21:22 U From: "Wiencek, Dan" <wiencek@mac.aaos.org> Subject: An open letter to Andy Mitch, thanks a ton for your last post, and for all the great news you give us. I know you're not a messenger service, but this is what I would want to say to Andy had I his ear the way you do. "Andy thought it was a shame that everyone had heard most of the demos because he thinks a good part of the surprise of a totally new batch of songs is now lost." Though this is technically true, the demos themselves yielded considerable "surprise" and it was a pleasure to get to know the new songs that way. Some people have chosen to defer that pleasure 'til the album proper comes out, but whether we discover the songs now or later doesn't matter all that much. Besides, there's an enormous aesthetic gulf between hearing a batch of dubbed and re-dubbed, synthesized demos and hearing a properly recorded album, with musicians playing and singing together. As much as I enjoy the demos, their technical shortcomings become apparent after a while and I'm eagerly awaiting the spaciousness and warmth of a proper studio recording. "In addition he's concerned that those of us who have been listening to the demos for quite a while may not like the studio versions if they veer even a little bit from the demo versions which they surely will in several instances." Change whatever you want! They're your songs and you don't owe us a thing, except to bring these songs to life with as much fidelity to your own vision as you can. I would *relish* changes in the songs. We have the demos and can always refer back to them if we have the urge to hear something in its "primal" state. As Mitch said, we'll all buy the album regardless, and anyone who spoiled it for themselves by overplaying the demos can hardly blame the band, can they? "Andy also noted that he thought some of the orchestral things might really piss people off and he based this on some of the Chalkhills printouts he has been reading from the past few years in which Nonsuch was not as well liked as he thought." Nonsense. (Pardon the pun.) I think Nonsuch is great, as do many if not most members of Chalkhills. People tend to be more vocal about things they don't like, because praise is boring to write and even more boring to read. And I might also add that when people talk about not liking Nonsuch, I've found they tend to have a beef with the writing rather than the arranging. Whatever, it's their opinion. I just think you need hardly worry about XTC fans disliking orchestral arrangements in and of themselves. In conclusion, I guess my point is: don't worry about us! Worry about the songs, worry about getting all the instrumental and vocal parts right, worry about fixing all those little details that make a song fully realized. That's all anyone here has any right to ask for. Yours, Dan Wiencek
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:06:31 -0800 (PST) From: Misty Shock <mccrtny@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Easter Theatre Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980203085330.17046A-100000@saul1.u.washington.edu> > Hey, in case anyone was wondering, my version of "Easter Theatre" > on CC97 was supposed to be sort of a mix of "I Am The Walrus" and > "Hello Goodbye". I guess it wasn't that obvious...oh well. My > PROBLEM was I didn't have a piano...thanks for the audience of > one accolade. Whoo-hoo! SOMEONE liked it! Hello, all. Prompted to make my first post by this comment as "Easter Theatre" is one of my favorites on CC97 (Along with Randy Christopher's "Down a Peg")! I never noticed the line "Like the ground your breast swells" before I heard your version. Where's the "Hello Goodbye" reference? The bass in the chorus? Misty Shock, who still thinks Squeeze is cool and doesn't understand why people seem to dislike Nonsuch more than the others "No round of drinks can extinguish this feeling of love and engulfing bliss." --Andy Partridge
------------------------------ From: LadyCPlum@aol.com Message-ID: <6061cdbe.34d7567d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:40:11 EST Subject: Lordy lordy..... No pun intended to my namessake......anyhoo, I digress. Lots more responses than usual this week..... First off, in response to the porn club named XTC, just thought I'd drop a line that on Jerry Springer yesterday (Yes, I watch talk shows to laugh.....) there was a stripper named XTC. Small world, eh? David-I had completely forgotten to respond to your review of Terry & the Lovemen's song from Testy Dinner....if XTC was to book T&tL as their opening act, they could go all out and book the Dukes too....they are, after all, one in the same. Ben-Oh I can link Elvis Costello and XTC easily.....T-Bone Burnett produced Elvis's SPIKE album.....Sam Phillipas is T-Bone's wife....Colin played bass on an album of Sam's. There! Now if I could only figure out Marilyn Manson and XTC....... Chris-Oh come come now, you underestimate me. I've grown up quite a bit, I wouldn't lambast anyone for putting down the Dummies. I just get out my voodoo kit and make a few dolls, get a few pins, chant a few spells.....JJ. Matt-Bonzo albums are hard to come across these days, so I'm not even going to try. I DO love I'm the Urban Spaceman, though. Saw Neil Innes perform it on the Hollywood Bowl, with Carol Cleveland tap dancing right along. Mitch-I have to say that Andy does have some legit fears, IMNSHO. I'm trying to keep an open mind about the material, but from having listened to the demos for so long, I can't help but have this nagging voice in the back of my head, asking whether or not I'll like the material. Oh well, we shall see when the ship arrives. Tis all for now, school is a-calling me!!! Ciao, Amanda XTC song of the day-Child Crusade non XTC song-One By One-Chumbawamba
------------------------------ Message-ID: <34D76573.9F0CC049@myself.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 13:44:03 -0500 From: Ira Lieman <ira@myself.com> Organization: Ogilvy & Mather Subject: Elvis Elvis to XTC... Elvis Costello produced Squeeze's "East Side Story" Chris Difford (of Squeeze) almost produced XTC's next album. Easy, pshaw.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v03110702b0fd158668f5@[206.79.166.166]> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:03:58 -0800 From: Mark French <mark@imprintink.com> Subject: Re: Six Degrees of XTC Ok Ben, here they are. *Whitney Houston* (very obscure!) Sang on Material's 1992 album "One Down", which was produced by band member Bill Laswell, who also produced Ryuichi Sakamoto's 1980(?) album B-2 Unit, on which Andy Partridge performed. *Hanson* (not quite as obscure!) Their "Middle of Nowhere" CD was produced by The Dust Brothers, one of whom, Mike Simpson", produced The Eels 1997 CD, of which E, the main Eel, had a previous CD featuring the work of P.Hux, who perfomed "Another Satellite" on Testimonial Dinner. *Tracey Ullman* (even less obscure!) Her first album was produced by Nick Lowe, who produced quite a number of albums for *Elvis Costello* who himself produced Squeeze's 1981 Album "East Side Story". Squeeze member Chris Difford has a studio that XTC recorded at for their new release, before he nicked the master tape. But can you link: Prince, Celine Dion, Lindsey Buckingham, or Queen? Good Luck Mark
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:28:54 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" <ringostr@u.washington.edu> Subject: Six degrees of XTC Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96a.980203121730.13040I-100000@dante21.u.washington.edu> Ben Gott asked how to connect XTC and Elvis Costello i figured out 2 ways: Elvis Costello wrote and Performed Shamed Into Love with Ruben Blades and of course Ruben did The Man Who Sailed Around his Soul on Testimonial Dinner. Elvis Costello wrote 11 songs with Paul McCartney who was and Harrison Sherwood covered the Lennon/McCartney son Hello Little Girl on the Butcher Covers tribute tape and our harrison also has covered Reel by Real and Living in a Haunted heart on CC97 and CC98. Jason Wilson Brown History & Canadian Studies Major President- GEEK The Secret Society of the College Bowl ringostr@u.washington.edu (206) 632-4905 P.O. Box 45822 Seattle, WA 98145-0882 "I can't believe I'll never believe in anything again" -Elvis Costello
------------------------------ Message-ID: <211D4A0926D2D011859E0060972D88482B227E@azmail.rjconsult.com> From: "Miller, Ed" <emiller@rjconsult.com> Subject: Attention Chalkhills Children '97 Contributors Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:43:37 -0700 Hi, y'all... I think I'm picking up on a general need for more info about how the Chalkhills Children '97 songs were put together. I also have a few questions I'd like to ask some of the artists and, in the interest of efficiency, I'd like to propose a solution. If all the contributors would mail me a little more info about their work on CC'97, I'll compile it and send it back to the list. That way we can do this one time and it will benefit anybody on the list who cares to read it. Please include specifics on instruments, recording equipment, effects, inspirational events, psychedelia, whatever... Just include the song title and artist name at the beginning of your blurb and try to keep your contribution to around a hundred words if possible. I will assemble your contributions without editing them and post to Chalkhills in the next week or two, depending on how quickly your input arrives. Thanks, everyone! Ed Miller
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:58:02 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Slack <tgs@telerama.com> Subject: CC 97 Applause Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980203175545.22309A-100000@frogger.lm.com> What's a talented group of musicians like this doing on an XTC fan club mailing list? (Making one memorable tribute tape after another, of course.) Congratulations on a fine effort from all - it's been my primary listen for the last week. Knowing the interest those who make music have in hearing other's opinions, I must offer up just a few on some of my favorite tracks. Real Be Reel - Harrison ("Quit Spilling Your Guts, It's Getting Messy") Sherwood serves up a slice of unadulterated New Wave, complete with Devo-esque vocals and maniacal spastic synth. Summer Grass - Simon's merging of Summer's Cauldron, Grass, and the Meeting Place takes on a life of its own that has me reminiscing about the 5th Dimension and the Turtles. Easter Theatre - Cool psychedelic arrangement and (unfortunate fuzz tone affectation aside), truly remarkable vocals. Down a Peg - Randy (wherever you are), you may as well go ahead and do a full album of these takes. Yet another excellent production, particularly well-done vocals. Do you do your own material? Toys - If I didn't know better, I'd think Thomas Dolby was using Steve Clarke as a pseudonym. Really well done, could be a radio hit. Wrapped in Grey - Engelbert? I think not. If anything, the Association (one of may favorites). Very pretty, like the ending better than the original. Mole From the Ministry - Very Colin-esque vocals and a nice production. Snowman - This was never one of my favorite songs, but this version really does it justice. Hope you all get some feedback from the boys on this one. TS
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