Chalkhills Digest, Volume 4, Number 62 Sunday, 15 March 1998 Today's Topics: Re: American Fan Club Perdixion, Convention, Opinion Now It Can Be Told Bitter, with a pedigree Yabek and Sean Altman in NYC Pic-a-nic basket! Smileypants Buys English Settlement #Buzzcity R.I.P. My favorite songs Radio performances Re: Analogue vs. Digital Oh, By the way..... XTC Bumper Sticker Sighting!!!! Translate This! Anyone see this Article or Record? Andy meets Oscar Looking Out For Number One I hate Shakespeare..... Re: Depeche Andy XTC Web Sites Martin Newell CD ACTING! GOES #2 Re: waiting for ecstacy.org XTC snippets Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> or: <http://come.to/chalkhills/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled using Digest 3.6 (John Relph <relph@sgi.com>). PLEASE NOTE: The discussion of the relative merits of analog (phonograph record) versus digital (compact disc) technology is not appropriate fodder for Chalkhills. Everybody has their opinion, and since in the end it is a subjective decision (frequency response notwithstanding), it will not be resolved here. Don't waste the bandwidth by trying to do so. Future postings on the CD vs. LP debate will be rejected. You have been warned. You can read it in your bible / Or on the back of this record sleeve.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:16:26 -0800 (PST) From: relph (John Relph) Message-Id: <9803121016.ZM12920@mando.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: American Fan Club On Feb 23, 15:29, owner-chalkhills wrote: Molly <MFa2707621@aol.com> writes: > > I think I asked this question before, but I was wondering if the >video, Look, Look is still in print, and if anybody's seen it how they like >it? Definitely not in print. It's pretty good, but the best XTC videos have not been released for consumption by the general public. Especially videos like "Grass", "Human Alchemy", "Mole From The Ministry", and basically anything since _Look Look_. Except "Dear God" which is available on some compilation videos, I believe. > Also, are there any chaces they will be releasing any new video >cassettes of their videos? I sure hope so! > Also I think there >should be an American fan club. The Little Express is the North American Fan Club. Isn't that good enough? > Maybe somebody can make a web page for the >American fans of XTC. Chalkhills is American. What exactly are you thinking to have on this proposed web page? -- John
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:28:48 -0800 (PST) From: relph (John Relph) Message-Id: <9803121028.ZM12994@mando.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Perdixion, Convention, Opinion Molly Buffalo <MFa2707621@aol.com> asks: > >Hello, it's me again. I just wanted to ask a question, what ever happened >to the Perdix, the web site all about Andy? That was a great web page. Natalie tells me it's on hold indefinitely. If it reanimates you can be sure you'll find out about it on Chalkhills. >Does anybody know if any of the members read Chalkhills? If they do, we >shouldn't complain about them. Of course we should. Otherwise we're just lying to each other. >Also, why isn't there an XTC convention in the US? There has been at least one XTC convention in the U.S., in Illinois I believe. There was also a convention in Barrie, Ontario, not far from Toronto, and a number of Americans attended that convention as well. Then again, a number of Americans have attended the various conventions in the U.K. (including myself). Simon Deane <simon.deane@dgj.com.hk> writes: > >John, as to Oranges and Lemons, I think it's brilliant but "President Kill" >and to a lesser extent "The Loving" take it just outside _my_ favourites. Ah, opinion. That's what makes the world wonderful. You never know what other people will like. I like both of those songs. Paul Xtckinks <Xtckinks@aol.com> writes: > > I found this page on Andy. It lists songs I've never heard mentioned here. >I'm sure it would be of interest to most fans. Give it a look-see! > > < http://www.tunes.com/tunes-cgi2/tunes/person_frame/19293/0/0/76 > Check out the XTC discography on the Chalkhills web site for even more XTC-related songs. -- John
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:50 -0600 (CST) From: Marshall Joseph Armintor <mojo@owlnet.rice.edu> Subject: Now It Can Be Told Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980312130321.6155B-100000@long-eared.owlnet.rice.edu> I'd to thank my man Jason Garcia (a fellow Texan) and well as at least one another Chalkhiller for propping me up regard- ing my CC 97 cover of Traffic Light Rock, which I did...not seriously. Here's a fuller version of my "notes." August 7-9 I had been putting together the drum tracks on a thing called "HammerHead" (shareware for incipient techo-DJs..strangely enough, all share/freeware of this type seems to be based in Scandavia) over a couple of days, cutting and pasting measure by measure. Eventually, I got a passable drum track with the most vanilla samples I could find. The plan for my cover is: uncover Motorhead as a secret XTC influence. August 10 6:45pm Make coffee. 7pm Fiddled with drum track, trying to transfer it to tape via patch cable. No luck. I play the track through my PC speakers and stick the microphone (Radio Shack _Universal Dynamic Some- thing_) at them while the tape rolls. (A vintage 1990 4-track.) 8pm Do bass track my sticking said microphone at my 2X15 Peavey cabinet (relic from 1970s), playing Yamaha bass. 8:10pm I realize I can't hear out of the left ear of my headphones, so I twist some pots all the way over to the left side so I can hear myself through the monitor. (Note: this detail will become very important later on.) Coffee. 8:30pm Try to set up my electric guitar (a Telecaster). I haven't played it in a few months, so I go hunting for my distorto-box and found the battery had leaked so as to make it unusable for the night's session. I patch it line-in raw, but I don't like the sound, so I wave the mic at it instead for that ambient vibe. My 30-watt amp's still not satisfying me, so I use the little Dean Markley 12 watt practice amp I've had since I was a kid. An unvarnished Tele + undistorted amp = country music, so I then decide it's gonna be a cowbilly-style cover. 9-12pm Try like hell getting guitar tracks done. Coffee. Something's not right. Coffee. 12:05pm Bed. August 11 8-8:58pm Erase previous day's work, save drum track. 8:59pm Coffee. 9pm-9:58pm Rebuild instrumental tracks one by one. 9:59pm Coffee. Spiked with cinnamon. 10pm -10:58pm Vocals. Read actual lyrics for probably the first time.Practice doing Texas-style drawl, which I steeled myself against having, being born here and all. 10:59pm Coffee. Spiked with gin. 11pm - 12pm Dinking around with guitar fills on the second track. Punch in, punch out. 12pm "Mixdown." Remember those pots I twisted in such a devil-may- care fashion yesterday? Well, what they did was specify WHICH CHANNEL EACH TRACK RECORDED ON. YES, MY WHOLE TRACK WAS ON THE LEFT SIDE, AND THE RIGHT NOTHING BUT WHISTLING SILENCE. Stunned, I sit back in my chair... 12pm - 12:10pm Gin. 12:10pm - 12:30pm Mull options...lessee, stab myself with 1/4" adapter, call Richard Pedretti-Allen at this very instant gargling the _Liebestod_ from _Tristan und Isolde_... 12:30pm - 1:00pm Quake deathmatch, while listening to Iggy and the Stooges' remixed _Raw Power_. 1:00pm The solution: Play 4-track tape through some little speakers, pointed at the by-now overused microphone, run through a boom box. 1:02pm Mixdown complete. "Luck" indeed. Marshall
------------------------------ Message-ID: <B82F8C4D16A0D1119FDC0001FA6A4BC90E9E2A@hfd-exch003.hartford.aetna.com> From: "Witter, Karl F" <WitterKF@aetna.com> Subject: Bitter, with a pedigree Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:15:39 -0500 >A merchandise deal has been sorted out and mailorder >T-Shirts & other goodies will soon be available. Great! Discussion's well and good, but I don't imagine folks who've bought the Rolling Stones tour jacket or pre- signed for "Spiceworld" on video (out next week) anguishing like we (collectively) have about trifles like "fan's charity" v. "band's obligation". At some point it's all angels-on-pinheads and I just want to put my money where my mouth is, as I'm sure others do. (Not that I claim to speak for all.) Re the Grammys: Can't XTC get nominated next year? I mean, how hard can it be? Puffy Combs? LeeAnn-"I've-got-talent-but- my-manager-will-do-for-my-career-what-Col.-Parker-did-for- Elvis"-Rimes? And what is that pesky "minimum number"? >Richard Pedretti-Allen describing a lager lout: "'Oy loyk to >get reeelly peessed on Four-X and then, whenever Arsenal wins a >football match, I smosh somebodies fice in.' I bet Swindonians >quaff a bit more Bank's Bitter or Marston's Pedigree." Given Arsenal's and Swindon Town's respective play lately, that's probably a lot of lager, and Bank's Bitter or Marston's Pedigree. Seems they'd be drinking for entirely different reasons, though. Waiting loyally for the Edmonton Drillers to return, Karl
------------------------------ From: "scott shaw" <brynneandscott@email.msn.com> Subject: Yabek and Sean Altman in NYC Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:14:52 -0500 Message-ID: <0551c3216190c38UPIMSSMTPUSR01@email.msn.com> Will anyone be at the show Saturday night at Arlene's Grocery? I'll be in NYC and may attend. Please email me at brynneandscott@msn.com. if you think you might show. It's free and Yazbek takes the stage at 8 p.m. sharp or so I'm told. Scott
------------------------------ Message-Id: <72EDB966944AD1118DC90080D82074882BC51F@ex-campus2> From: "Pedretti-Allen, Richard" <Richard.PedrettiAllen@octel.com> Subject: Pic-a-nic basket! Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:07:00 -0800 Just for the record, I am not the aforementioned girlfriend of "smileypants."
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:10:50 -0500 Subject: Smileypants Buys English Settlement Message-ID: <19980312.181050.3278.0.smileypants426@juno.com> From: smileypants426@juno.com (Smiley Pants) Greeting, fellow chalkheads This past Saturday night, I purchased English Settlement., and I love it!!!! I have such a hard time getting the songs out of my head (but what's wrong with that? :) ) It seems so hard to describe the sound. The songs are so addictive that it's hard to decide which song to start with when I put it in my player. What songs DOES dear ol' Smileypants like? Well, I'll tell ya!! I just happen to be addicted to "Runaways", "Senses Working Overtime", "No Thugs In Our House", "Melt the Guns", "Fly on the Wall". This album just rocks. Enough said. Next on the list : NONSUCH BLACK SEA O&L MUMMER BIG EXPRESS Ol' Smiley's collection is almost complete!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Well, that's it for now. Have a good one, fellow chalkheads :) --Ken AKA Smileypants ________________________________________________________ Promotion Time!!!!!! THE INSANE CFA FANS ----The ULTIMATE Cool For August Fan site! http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ash/44 ________________________________________________________
------------------------------ Message-ID: <007601bd4e0c$2eccf500$048bb0d1@JH3.alternatech.net> From: "JH3" <jh3@alternatech.net> Subject: #Buzzcity R.I.P. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:11:25 -0600 I'm sad to announce that #Buzzcity (our XTC chat room on irc.alternatech.net) is, at least for the time being, defunct. About two months ago we upgraded our Internet Server, and at that point our IRC server software stopped working. We'll probably replace it, but maybe not - #Buzzcity was the only permanent channel we had, and after the initial novelty wore off, usage pretty much dropped to zero. I blame myself though, for not setting up regularly-scheduled listening parties and hosted sessions. Still, I guess it was nice to have the channel on a mostly-unused chat server, because it nearly eliminated interference from trollers, pedophiles, and "XTC? - you mean the drug?" types. I, for one, had some wonderful chats with some very nice people. Maybe by the time the new album comes out, we'll have it back up and running again... As for other projects, I'm currently trying to create a dead-accurate vector graphic file of the "Oranges & Lemons" album cover. It seems that bitmap-tracing programs such as Adobe Streamline and CorelTrace are pretty much useless for the kind of accuracy and fully-layered editability I'm trying to achieve here - the idea being that the results would be used to create animated GIF's and a screen saver, as well as the usual T-shirt iron-ons and such. But I haven't got a lot of time on my hands these days. If anyone wants to help with it, e-mail me (jh3@netins.net) - it would entail reproducing each object in a given section of the drawing manually, in a vector illustration program, using the most efficient number of path nodes possible. Also filling in objects that are obscured by other parts of the drawing. (I've got the background and most of Andy finished already, along with about 75% of Dave's guitar.) Finally, I wanted to congratulate everyone involved in the CC97 project for doing such a great job! The results are much more polished-sounding than the first tape, though I have to admit that Marshall Armintor's rather polish-free version of "Traffic Light Rock" is probably my favorite thing on it. If you don't have it, get it! GET IT NOW! John H. Hedges
------------------------------ From: MFa2707621 <MFa2707621@aol.com> Message-ID: <dac3f280.35088360@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:52:47 EST Subject: My favorite songs Chalkers, In the last issue, Smiley gave me a great idea. Why don't I list my favorite songs from XTC? Here's my Top Ten. 1. Grass (Skylarking) 2. Jump (Mummer) 3. All of You Pretty Girls (The Big Express) 4. Dear God (Skylarking) 5. Humble Daisy (Nonsuch) 6. Chalkhills and Children (Oranges and Lemons) 7. Snowman (English Settlement) 8. Wake Up (The Big Express) 9. Mayor of Simpleton (Oranges and Lemons) 10. Then She Appears (Nonsuch) Just recently I had a death in my family, and I started playing The Big Express and Mummer, and their music made me feel better. Those albums are so great, and the music is uplifting to me at least. If I could meet the guys I would thank them for having such great music. I don't know I would have done if I didn't have those albums. Thank you Andy, Colin and Dave for all of your music. Molly [ Please do not send your top-ten to the Chalkhills list in response to this message. If you are interested in conducting a survey, please contact me. -- John ]
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980312203918.006a6780@mail.clemson.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:39:18 -0500 From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: Radio performances Out of curiosity, is there a list of all the songs XTC has performed live in-studio for the BBC? As I mentioned earlier, I'd love to see a "Drums & Wireless" follow-up, and having such a list would make my dreaming much easier. :-) -Adam
------------------------------ From: R.Crawford@mgn.co.uk Message-ID: <802565C6.000B04DF.00@mgnmail3.mgn.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:23:38 +0000 Subject: Re: Analogue vs. Digital From: Wood Robert MMUk <robert.wood@micromass.co.uk> >Subject: No comparison. > >I don't want to drag up the analogue vs. digital argument again, but I'm going to... <g> Yess and ? >> By the sounds of it, XTC certainly do not have the money >>to get "Firework" mastered twice, once for CD and once >>for vinyl. >Bollocks, the cost of mastering is a tiny fraction of recording. Don't mince your words say what you think... >> Because so much additional filtering is necessary to >>master for vinyl, a CD production master is a far better >>approximation of the final mix of an album. << >An even bigger pile of bollocks! Once you've listened to a decent vinyl >system vs. a CD, you'll be amazed. Don't go off what so called experts >tell you, listen with *your* ears, not somebody else's! Are you disagreeing with the original satement <grin> Personally I remember Linn Systems using the slogan "Sound is analogue", and I would tend to pay attention to Linn before Phillips if I want to buy a "Quality sound system". I don't really loke CD but I suppose I have very little choice in what format I buy on (certanly not cassette anyway). >> This info courtesy of a well-known industry professional (not me >>obviously). Sorry. I don't hang around with pros >Well known does not mean he/she know what he/she is on about. Elton >John's well known a singer, but he's crap at it! <g> Wayyy to go, a big saucer of milk to you, and don't sharpen your claws on the furniture (BTW I do agree with you on the the artist formally known as Dwight) >From: "Pedretti-Allen, Richard" <Richard.PedrettiAllen@octel.com> >Subject: Grammies, Youngsters, T-shirt and Tapes >Harrison, Harrison, Harrison... tsk, tsk. There are no damn hops in >Newcastle Brown! It's because the northerners don't have the >technology! Only fogblind geezers in Northumberland, Durham and Tyne >drink Newcastle! They never do it's Newcastle exhibition, and Iv'e got the scars to prove it! The only place in the world that you can go into a bar and ask for a "pint of dog" and receive a decent beer. Rob...
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:07:16 -0500 Subject: Oh, By the way..... Message-ID: <19980312.220716.3294.1.smileypants426@juno.com> From: smileypants426@juno.com (Smiley Pants) Greetings fellow chalkies :) How rude of me to have neglected to mention this in my last post........... I just want to give a special thank you to the people who e-mailed me privately and given me a welcome to the list :) You know who you are!!!! That is all for now. Until next time....have a good one :) --Smileypants
------------------------------ Message-ID: <3508C2FA.7F0B@sirius.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:24:10 -0800 From: Eric Rosen <elr@sirius.com> Subject: XTC Bumper Sticker Sighting!!!! Hi all, About 3-4 weeks ago, yours truly was pulling out of a parking garage when lo & behold a familiar sequence of a letters in a most delightful font grabbed the corner of my eye... It was our favorite 3 letter pun in the English Settlement font. Given the dingy lighting, it appeared either black or green with a white background. Perhaps, the owner of said vehicle is on this list? The garage is in San Francisco. It so happens that the corporate headquarters of CNET is in this same edifice. Also in the neighborhood are a number of SF's premier multimedia development boutiques hence, the thought that such an individual might be a Chalkhills subscriber. Anyway, it certainly was a change of pace as opposed to: I Break for Animals, SH*T Happens, etc.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <9803130550.AA25663@polar.bowdoin.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:48:25 -0500 Subject: Translate This! From: "Ben Gott" <loquacious@usa.net> Hey, Chalkers, Go to http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com, and feed the cool search engine some stuff. You'll get XTC lyrics (English --> French --> English) like: "...there can be no quilts of gold, but the rich person whom I will release..." "...how what you of the martians says 'I love you'?" "...there is nothing in the world as a green-peeled girl But that do not mean to indicate that you cannot look at it..." Sometimes computers are useful, but they're mostly just an excuse for me not to write papers. This is neat, though...Maybe Partridge could feed it a song in English, translate it to German, fling it back into English, and record *that*. Hmmmm. (I'm feeling anti-computer because I've given in, and am using Internet Explorer. It's quicker than Netscape.) -Ben * ------------------------------------ * B e n G o t t :: Bowdoin College (207) 721-5142 :: Brunswick, ME 04011 ...What makes me unique? My dark life... * ------------------------------------ *
------------------------------ Message-ID: <3508E595.556307B0@webbnet.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:51:50 -0800 From: "Shawn D. Stone" <sdstone@webbnet.com> Subject: Anyone see this Article or Record? I'm sorry this post is so late in coming, I'm usually a lurker. On August 7, 1997, a local (the SF Bay Area in California, US of A) free magazine called BAM featured an interview with Andy in which they discussed such things as Dear God, Upsy Daisy, Testimonial Dinner, and Xtc's future. If anyone failed to put this interview on the web, then please email me and let me know, and I'll try to put it on the web and send the link out through this mailing list. Also, I just got a Promo only 12" vinyl that says on the cardboard sleeve, Live! Warner Bros. Radio Show. It's Skylarking, with some guy interviewing Andy between every couple songs, making comments on the meanings and recording of all the songs. It's in excellent to mint condition, and has the original packaging and letter from Geffen Records advertising Skylarking. I looked through the discography on the Chalkhills site, and I couldn't find any mention of a Warner Bros. Records Show record, though I did find a reference to a record that is Skylarking with interview with Andy, but with so many versions of so many records or CDs that perhaps this isn't on the discography? Anyone have an estimated value on this? - Shawn D. Stone.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199803122224.JAA07964@warchivegw.riv.csu.edu.au.> From: "Simon Knight" <sknight@warchivegw.riv.csu.edu.au> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:22:26 +0000 Subject: Andy meets Oscar Mitch wrote: > Someone approached the band with the idea of making a feature film about > XTC's career but with actors playing the band members. Andy suggested that > the guy who played the nazi who gets his face melted in the first Indiana > Jones movie could play him. How could you make an xTc movie WITHOUT xTc? It couldn't be half as funny and twisted as "The Road to Oranges and Lemons". I'd much rather the band take advantage of it's own sense of humour and creativity to come up with something a bit more interesting than a normal biopic. And who (other than us) is going to go and see a film about an obscure cult band when Bruce (the horror! the horror!) Willis can't even be guaranteed to put bums on cinema seats? Why don't xTc pretend they're the Rutles and do an alternate history of the band, and call in the Dukes to record *pastiches* of their own songs from their different time periods? Then we get a brand spanking new soundtrack full of some very weird spotty jerky thumpy pastoral industrial retro cyclic shiny masturbatory criminally ignored songs. I'll leave it to Mr Sherwood to provide the tracklisting - i'm off to find my 3D Glasses.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199803130046.BAA24695@mail.knoware.nl> From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Organization: The Little Lighthouse Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:46:16 +0000 Subject: Looking Out For Number One Dear Chalkers, My friend Simon Knight said: > I cannot recommend the vinyl version of ES highly enough. Indeed.... this magnificent album sounds so fresh and exciting; as if the (analog!) sound is jumping at you from the speakers. I've never heard a better sounding vinyl album ever. And that's also why we really need a re-issue of the early CD's with decent re-mastering a la Fossil Fuel. But while we are on the subject of English Settlement: The Australian pressing of the double album was a limited _numbered_ edition and 5000 copies were pressed. My copy is number 1954 and I was wondering if anybody has #1 or knows where it's at? yours in xtc, Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse the XTC website @ http://come.to/xtc and http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello
------------------------------ From: LadyCPlum <LadyCPlum@aol.com> Message-ID: <ac0f1b27.35096897@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:10:45 EST Subject: I hate Shakespeare..... Well guys and gals, I just flunked my latest test on good ole Will. But enough of that...... Steve-Lessee...as far as I know, the Dukes names' came about like this-\ Sir John Johns-Andy's father is named John, and Andy's middle name is John. Lord Cornelius Plum (You don't know how close I came to typing "lady", I'm so used to saying it!) Dave was going to name himself U.S. of Arthur. but the name was already being used. I don't think it's certain how he landed on that one. EIEI Owen-Hum a few bars of "Ole Macdonald" to figure that one out. Molly-I'm not sure if 120 Minutes is the best vehicle for you. If you want to see XTC p[layed, it's better to write to M2, MTV's sister (and, IMNSHO, MUCH better) station. They've played XTC vids several times before, and I have yet to see one on 120 Minutes. I know M2 comes on usually at 1 in the afternoon Central Time, I'm not sure what that would around the country.... Mitch-Was the stove hissing or was Dave??? Anyhoo, that Nazi guy whose face melted would be PERFECT to play Andy. I'm gonna have to go watch Raiders of the Lost Ark now! I'm not sure who we could get to play Colin, but Noah Wyle could be a shoo-in for Dave. Tis all for now, Amanda XTC song of the day-Shake You Donkey Up non XTC song-I Will Remember You-Sarah McLachlan
------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 98 12:01:52 +0000 Subject: Re: Depeche Andy From: "David vanWert" <mcknife@xsite.net> Message-Id: <B12ED0BD-3374D@206.126.236.94> On Thu, Mar 12, 1998 5:41 PM, someone wrote: > I've been wondering about this for AGES!!! > On the Depeche Mode - Violator album between Enjoy the Silence and Policy > of Truth there is a wierd interlude where somebody growls something > unitelligible to me. I would *swear* it's Andy. Any input on this? I kind of doubt it as Andy sort of slammed Depeche Mode on MTV during his guest vj stint. David vanWert mcknife@xsite.net http://www.xsite.net/~mcknife "I hate quotations." Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1849
------------------------------ Message-ID: <006c01bd4ec0$ff7e5a40$048bb0d1@JH3.alternatech.net> From: "JH3" <jh3@netins.net> Subject: XTC Web Sites Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:44:43 -0600 Bill Gibron wrote... >All I was trying to say was, that www.gbv.com was a good idea, >as is all the other web sites. True, I held it out as an example >of "what could be done with some effort". <snip> >MORE OF US SHOULD HAVE XTC SITES. At last count, a >favorite show of mine (it consists of three letters and >3000 at the end) has over 400 web sites. 400!!!!!! I agree that there should be more XTC web sites, but having more sites probably isn't going to increase the size of their fan base. For that you need advertising, airplay, videos, etc. If people are just looking for information about the band, there's enough out there right now. (Which isn't to say there shouldn't be more.) If you ask me, the main reason there aren't more XTC web sites is because the band members themselves aren't active online. If there were a chance that by building an XTC shrine on the web, you might get an e-mail or (better yet) a handwritten note from Andy, Dave, or Colin thanking you for the effort, I suspect there would be a whole lot more sites. I don't blame them for that; it's just my opinion. (And it didn't stop *me*...) That reminds me - Bob Estus' "Roundabout" site (http://www.znet.com/~bobestus/index.htm) is TOTALLY AWESOME. If you haven't checked it out yet, you really owe it to yourself! John H. Hedges
------------------------------ Message-Id: <72EDB966944AD1118DC90080D820748847BE69@ex-campus2> From: "Pedretti-Allen, Richard" <Richard.PedrettiAllen@octel.com> Subject: Martin Newell CD Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:33:44 -0800 Rooting through the used CD bins, found a copy of Martin Newell's, The Greatest Living Englishman (c) 1993. Gave it a bit of a test listen and figured that it was worth exploring for the price. I wouldn't buy it without being able to hear it. I don't buy stuff JUST BECAUSE so-n-so might be on it unless it comes highly recommended from a realiable source (If there is one thing that I have learned from Robert Fripp, it is that he doesn't have the best judgement in choosing his projects, not that that would stop an unscrupulous record company from releasing the product.) Okay, Andy seems to have done a fair amount of things on this disc. In many instances, the CD reminds me of Rubber Soul / Revolver era Beatles. Andy was Producer, Engineer, did some guitar work, keyboards, string arrangements and "very clever stuff on the computer." but this particular issue (on Pipeline Records under license of Humbug Records) has Andy's name in the same huge type as Martin Newell's. It says... MARTIN NEWELL featuring the new improved ANDY PARTRIDGE Having said that (which is essentially nothing at all), what was "new and improved" about Andy in 1993? Cheers, Richard
------------------------------ Message-Id: <l03110700b12e16ff805b@[146.6.72.38]> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:55:00 -0500 From: Jason Garcia <h.h.name@mail.utexas.edu> Subject: ACTING! >Andy suggested that the guy who played the nazi who gets his face >melted in the first Indiana Jones movie could play him. TOTALLY!!!!!! Oh and Mitch, tell us more about the songwriting course! Learn anything? How was Ray? >But the one record where the CD version does absolutely NO justice to >the material: > >xTc - English Settlement NO KIDDING. It's like comparing a plastic apple with a real one. And you get lyrics, pics and the like with the vinyl, too. At least MY CD doesn't have them...are the ES CDs still packaged poorly? All work and no play makes Jason a rich man.
------------------------------ From: "Lakme" <lakme@iname.com> Subject: GOES #2 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:01:36 -0300 Message-ID: <01bd3a3b$c1db5420$01f7f5c8@pavao.nvc.com.br> This is my first post at chalkhills and i'm doing this to share with you a great new discover. It's a unknown band named Superunloader. Their latest album is named Goes #2, i don't know if there is a reference or some to do with XTC's GO2 but i liked it a lot and knowing that many XTC's fans like Radiohead too i'm sending you the address ( i think there is a connection between these 3 groups but i can't explain that with my poor english ). So, go there listen and mail me if you agree... http://ksdm.com/pickems/pickem.superu.2.html Patricia
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980314222856.008fc1b0@cyber1.servtech.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:28:56 -0500 From: Chaos Harlequin <harlequin@tmbg.org> Subject: Re: waiting for ecstacy.org A few thoughts from your now-reclusive friend (that would be me...): First, I followed through on Adam Tyner's domain name research. www.xtc.com does not currently seem to be in use; www.xtc.org is, unsurprisingly, a porn site, while www.xtc.net is the "East Tennessee Network": a "family owned association of newspapers, radio stations, specialty magazines, and local Internet providers covering the East Tennessee Region." Hmmm. Second: I really don't care whether it's a double album or not. For all I care, they could release the album on a series of twenty 1-song 3" CDs. I just want some music, dammit. I've been waiting for this album for a third of my life. Actually, if releasing it in two parts like this will let us get more songs, I am wholeheartedly for it. I'll certainly repeat what many other have said: while I'm not going to throw money at the band, I'll gladly pay full price for a disc of unreleased demos if that's what it would take to get them enough cash to finish the album. /---------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner---------------------------\ | harlequin@tmbg.org http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/ | | "We all have our idiosyncracies -- maybe thinning hair, or gum disease."| \---- Kowanko, "Will You Come To?" ------ Thank You, And Goodnight. ------/
------------------------------ From: FPTUCKER <FPTUCKER@aol.com> Message-ID: <2d77790f.350be075@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:06:43 EST Subject: XTC snippets Hello fellow XTC fanatics--how is everyone? I have been reading this venue for about two months now, and this is my first posting (I am no longer a virgin). Everyone remembers their first time, right? Back to reality..... I agree with a few of the postings lately that this venue should be only for the celebration, accomplishments, and talents of the fab 3. I ignore the negativity and the occasional bickering that I read. I subscribed to this because I love XTC, I appreciate their talents (when are they going to get the respect they deserve? Hopefully this year), and I can never get enough of this band. What a band they are--people that haven't listened to them are really missing out on a great experience. That's what I tell friends anyway. (Trying to sell records for the boys--the best thing we can do is try to influence people to listen to them and buy their records, not take up a collection and send them $$$$). Couple of quick comments. First, is it possible to find copies of the "look look" video anywhere? Or if someone has it, do they make copies for members? Dying to see this sometime. Also I just talked to someone across the pond who went to an XTC convention in England. He said there were about 50 people there. 50? It was disappointing to hear that only 50 people went to a gathering in their own country. Too bad--no respect for the lads over there either, it seems. Are there ever any gatherings in America? If I had the resources, I'd consider doing it. I would love to go to an XTC convention over here. Please, if there is one, someone let me know. Thanks. Anyone with any answers please e-mail me. I appreciate it. E-mail me anyway if you want. Looking to meet new people from all over. (Anyone in Florida, though?) Until we meet again........ Fred Tucker (fptucker@aol.com) xtc song(s) of the day: Rook, Omnibus,That Wave,and Then She Appeared (what a brilliant sequence of songs!!!!)
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