Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 170 Sunday, 11 April 1999 Today's Topics: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch! Voyeurism Am too a genius Never Gonna Break Down Lerch? More thoughts on Meatloaf Re: Oooooooooooooooh-Weeeeeeeeeeeeee-oooooooooh! Andy's Potato VH-1 RoO harmonies I Stand Corrected (partially.. :) XTC/Burgess again PG and XTC Cooking Vinyl says what? Re: bubblegum Its All Great Music I'm back!!! Long Live Dinosaur Rock! Famous misheard lyric I like how this list is only a digest, so you have to come up wi Song title Embarrassing song Last Balloon vocaltrumpet - XTC picture disc Fatboy Slim &c Re: So much to say! XTC Talk Peppered with Ridiculous Amounts of Yes and Floyd! Yum! Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.7 (John Relph <relph@sgi.com>). Tumble from your arms / Like the ground your breasts swell.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <00a701be8330$b7fe0760$49a725ca@speedking> From: "Simon Curtiss" <mduffy@clear.net.nz> Subject: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch! Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:01:26 +1200 Hi Y'all KT & I have ben having a short off-list discussion about the first line of _No Thugs In Our House_ which goes: "The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line" Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ?? We are both english and still have no idea. and no it's not wasps, we think we have narrowed it down to some sort of clothing but don't know which exactly. Any answers then Chokhillites ?? Simon (and KT)
------------------------------ From: Comicpub@aol.com Message-ID: <6ab4f61f.2440cfd1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:01:21 EDT Subject: Voyeurism <<From: JEFFREY.THOMAS.JT@bayer-ag.de Subject: Everything Chalkhillian Message-Id: <0006800010243040000002L002*@MHS> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:35:49 +0200>> <<Which leads us to one of the weaknesses of "AV1": in my eyes, Colin needs to have at least 3 songs on an album like this.>> Now I know some have problems with the song,but in my opinion BUNGALOW Fit's better on AV1 then it does on NONSUCH if one compares it with the Themes of FRIVOLOUS and FRUIT. Colin's Songs(or at least his Good songs) seem to be about the mudane everyday, everyman existance of life.(Frivolous Tonight,Washaway,Grass etc...)The Struggles of getting threw life(Cynical Days,or Deliver us from the elements, etc..) or in some cases a combination of both(Bungalow,Fruit Nut, etc...) I always Fine Colin's Songs to be "more" Personal then Andy's.NOW before everyone starts responding Yes,Andy's does write about personal matters(See:Funk Pop a Roll and Your Dictionary),but he seems to be STANDING WITH THE CURTAINS WIDE OPEN NAKED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.Colin on the other hand:THE CURTAINS ARE CLOSED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHERE THEY GO TOGETHER,AND YOU KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE,BUT YOU HAVE TO GET REAL,REAL CLOSE TO THE WINDOW TO SEE WHAT IT IS. Take Care Dan"Who doesn't have a clever closing tagline" R. comicpub@aol.com
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:10:56 -0400 From: Lincoln Fong <LincolnFong@compuserve.com> Subject: Am too a genius Message-ID: <199904101310_MC2-7146-1427@compuserve.com> Firstly Harrison- do you have to patronise Chris so for his singular comment on the music debate? (<...Wake me when this snoozefest is over>) I detect a note of classroom Darwinism that would exclude the comments of the occasional poster who you seem to regard as having nothing to say. Talk about taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut. On the Subject of Brian Vs The Beatles, thanks Dunks for being so eloquent. Brian's fragility of mind owed little to his desire to compete with Lennon and McCartney as any biography will tell you. Next- genius. Can someone give me the rules? It seems to be a subject of repeated debate here and as far as I can tell has as much to do with <who I admire> as any more level playing field. At one time didn't the applicant have at least to have an uncontrollable hairstyle and a great intellect? For example I saw someone disqualify Elvis here recently for being 'merely an interpreter' whilst say, Martin Luther King would more likely go in the 'visionary' bag. Not to say that fame isnt a factor and that's what's causing the hold up with Mr Partridge's application I imagine. Maybe its just a very small club and they dont like to let just any smartass in. I have too many Sgt Peppers (and not enough Privates?) but I should mention I was in a mastering studio a few years back working on something unrelated when I happened to glance at a box of tapes on the floor. This box contained none other than the original masters to every XTC album up till Nonsuch. With shaking hands I actually touched the reels of White Music, the soundtrack of my own childhood, and gazed over the larger (digital) boxes that Todd Rundgren once held in his hands. Just one of life's little surprises... Finally on the subject of embarrasment these favourites contain the crucial balance of promising tune and atrocious lyrics: Rainbow- Since You've Been Gone Europe- The Final Countdown J Geils Band- Angel is A Centrefold Yes- 'Owner' (as we like to call it) Michael Jackson- You've Got To Be Startin' Somethin' I've also always been a bit partial to 'I Just Called To Say I Love You' but that's not embarrasing is it? Lincoln
------------------------------ Message-Id: <370F885D.150B84E8@tmbg.org> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:20:34 -0400 From: Ben Gott/Loquacious Music <gott@tmbg.org> Organization: http://listen.to/loquacious Subject: Never Gonna Break Down Harumph. I'm probably going to get my butt kicked for this, but I've been around Chalkhills long enough to be used to that: I think that many bands -- XTC included -- have successfully built upon (and, in many cases, have surpassed) the output of "The Greats" (Beatles, Beach Boys, etc). Of course, that doesn't mean that I don't think that "The Greats" are unbelievably amazing and groundbreaking in their own right, but it *is* interesting to see how modern bands have interpreted and reinterpreted the music, arrangements, and vocal stylings of those who have come before them. Yes, "Imperial Bedroom," "Black Snake Diamond Role," and "Skylarking" would never have happened without John, Paul, George, and Ringo. However, I think it's fair to say that "Imperial Bedroom," "Black Snake Diamond Role," and "Skylarking" (and others) equal (and oftentimes surpass) much of the output of "The Greats." That's not to say that Declan McManus, Robyn Hitchcock or Andy Partridge are "more" or "less" talented than their predecessors, but that they've been able to incorporate more influences to make a different product. Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. But, in the words of Robyn Hitchcock, "don't say 'bloody hell' or 'blimey'..." -B.G.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <370F47A0.3C3@bhip.infi.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:44:27 +0000 From: Brian <mattone@bhip.infi.net> Subject: Lerch? Tschalkgerz! > I'd be your Gomez if you'd be my Morticia - ha ha We'd laugh because each joke would make me blow my train up high ,really high like a really high thing say...Lerch< Not that I have firsthand knowledge or anything (I can't say I've seen it in print), but I always assumed that the character's name was spelled L-U-R-C-H. This is the way my dictionary spells it. It means 'to loiter about a place furtively'. Hey, you brought up the spell checking! ;-) -- BRIAN THOMAS MATTHEWS * Digital & traditional illustration/animation * Caricaturist-for-hire * RENDERMAN ~ One-Man Band Ordinaire SAPRINGER CENTRAL ~ http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000b01be82e8$fcdcb9a0$59ffabc3@vucqprlj> From: "David Seddon" <D.Seddon@btinternet.com> Subject: More thoughts on Meatloaf Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:26:56 +0100 Molly said: David mentioned: <<Musician you'd like to kick hard: Andrew Lloyd Weber>> Ehem, I like Andrew Lloyd Weber. What is so wrong with him? Am I the only one who likes his stuff, because I notice a lot of people here don't like his stuff. <sarcasm alert> Well, I'll just get rid of all my stuff of ALW's.</sarcasm alert> Also, I like Meatloaf too. I really think he's amazing. "Your interest in Meatloaf suggests a taste for pantomime rather than music. Meatloaf exists as a focus for the sale of trite and overblown sentementality. His music provides a exemplar in flatulance, bombast, grandiosity and histrionics. His true vocation is that of the chat show guest targetted at middle aged ladies, who will find him rebellious. In fact he is tired, sterile and formulaic. Aside from that he displays a fine zest for life that compensates for the shortcomings outlined above." p.s. As for ALW, he produces music for unmusical petit bourgeois philistines who like to consider themselves cultured. Signed the Crazed Seekers of the pinched salt. (i.e.me and me mate Tim)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <001301be837a$82e5ce60$11f494d1@compaq> From: "Drude" <drude@sprint.ca> Subject: Re: Oooooooooooooooh-Weeeeeeeeeeeeee-oooooooooh! Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:49:39 -0700 > The Beatles were *great* singers, but, frankly, the Beach Boys were > better. Sorry, gotta disagree with you there! The Beach Boys only sounded good on album due to a whole lot of studio work. If you've ever heard them live, you'd realize how crap they actually were. I saw them in concert years ago, and it was most painful and embarrassing. As for the Beatles, while I don't think they were all great singers, I still believe that McCartney was pretty damned amazing. Generally, I think what you heard on tape was less "processed" and nearer their actual capabilities than any B-Boys recording. I never really understood the attraction to the Beach Boys, while I am a lover of great, hooky, well-written pop, I always felt they were one-trick-ponys, and that there was a distinct lack of variety on their albums. I sincerely believe the Beatles were probably the most musically-gifted band of all time. I would also add The Kinks, Pink Floyd, Midnight Oil (yes, you heard me...), and, of course, XTC to that list. Do what you will but harm none. Drude
------------------------------ From: mollyfa@juno.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:31:26 -0400 Subject: Andy's Potato Message-ID: <19990410.143613.3862.0.MollyFa@juno.com> KT said: "I don't want to be a potato!" Oh I love that quote from Road to Oranges and Lemons. That's a great film short. I'm so glad I have it, thank you Ian. I wish I could get some of their early stuff, except for Making Plans for Nigel, because I have it. I know Ian Stewart has some, but I would love to get my hands on the entire XTC video library, except for you know what. I don't have anything to trade though. :( Molly
------------------------------ Message-ID: <370F9AF1.4F4DE6A7@which.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:39:46 +0100 From: B Blanchard <b.blanchard@which.net> Subject: VH-1 Saturday evening. 7.45pm Well I told you so. VH-1 are running an A-Z weekend so it was pretty sure they'd play XTC and they did - Nigel. Oh well. Can I go out now please? Incidentally, from whence came the source of the idea that AP was going to be on Never Mind the Buzzcocks? He wasn't and that was the last of the series. But clearly someone told someone that he would be and indeed he would be excellent. Love BELINDA
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990410185441.65767.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "kristi leigh siegel" <beatlebird@hotmail.com> Subject: RoO harmonies Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:54:40 PDT John Fulton scribbled: >>Recently, I began to hear something familiar in the "do-do-do, do-do" chorus at the end of Easter Theatre. Something about the soprano and the harmonies, not quite Beach-Boys-like... >>Then the thread about ROO's resemblance to Yes began. Yes... you're right, it's Yes! That's what grabbed me too when I heard it...but I just couldn't place it. Ah, what was the album "Roundabout" was on... around '71 or '72? Kristi http://www.apolloii.com
------------------------------ From: music@telisphere.com Message-ID: <370FA075.45E6@telisphere.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:03:17 -0700 Subject: I Stand Corrected (partially.. :) R.L. Watson put forth: "You're kidding right? Brian became a recluse and took lots of LSD as a "reaction to hearing Sgt. Pepper"? Now if that isn't an instance of hyperbole, I don't know what is." (end quote) On reflection, you're right... I did oversimplify. I still hold that Brian was intimidated by the Beatles creative work, AND given the pressure that he felt from those around him, indeed it probably was the cumulative effect. On this subject, thought you might enjoy a site that has some interesting Beach Boy quotes.. http://www.cabinessence.com/brian/essays/quotes.shtml "Being called a musical genius was a cross to bear. Genius is a big word. But if you have to live up to something, you might as well live up to that. God damn!" ..................................Brian Wilson, 1988 "Well, yeah, I've had obstacles in my life. And I have a name to live up to. That alone was a hardship for me, living up to my name. Goddamn was it hard." ..................................Brian Wilson, 1988 "You're called a genius by people, and then your whole life you become the part." ..................................Brian Wilson, 1988 "If there is one person I have to select as a living genius of pop music, I would choose Brian Wilson." ..................................George Martin (Beatles producer) "But 'Pet Sounds' was not a big hit. That really hurt him badly, he couldn't understand it. It's like, why put your heart and soul into something?" ..................................Marilyn Wilson, 1966 "In short, Brian Wilson lived in terror of public failure. A lot has been made of his drug use/abuse, which may indeed have had searing effects upon him. But it was the public failure of Heroes to to wow Capitol and thus wow the world that caused him to withdraw." ..................................Jack Reiley "In Fort Worth, Texas there is a drug clinic which takes people off the streets and helps them get over bad LSD trips. They don't use any traditional medical treatment whatsoever. All they do is play the patient our 'Smiley Smile' album and apparently this acts as a soothing remedy which relaxes them and helps them to recover completely from their trip." ..................................Carl Wilson, 1970 "I'd swap a lot of the Beach Boys songs for just one 'Michelle.'" ..................................Bruce Johnston "I thought Brian was a perfect gentleman, apart from buttering his head and trying to put it between two slices of bread" ..................................Tom Petty, after eating with Brian.
------------------------------ From: fheaney@erols.com Message-Id: <199904101914.PAA25470@smtp4.erols.com> Subject: XTC/Burgess again Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:12:49 -0400 Andy Partridge also stated (in the NYC Idiot's Delight interview and perhaps elsewhere as well) that he took the title for "Fuzzy Warbles" from "A Clockwork Orange" (film or book, I don't remember). Alex is in a record shop and picks up two girls by telling them that he'll take them back to his place and play them something (Beethoven) much better than the "fuzzy warbles" they're used to listening to, or something to that effect. -- Francis Heaney "Go ahead, take my Steinbeck .sig file, why not?" -- me
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000b01be83eb$2154a060$e4b52299@default> From: "Joe Funk" <jomama68@email.msn.com> Subject: PG and XTC Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:15:48 -0500 Chalkerz: I, too, having been "Jonesin" for a the new Peter Gabriel release. Iain's concern : >Some non XTC sort of - XTC were out the picture for seven years due to >record label battles - so what's Peter Gabriel's excuse then ? and even >worse bloody Kraftwerk. Big fans of both but how long are folks meant to >hang on ........... ..is also mine! But there is hope!! His new recording, titled "Up", is due for release soon. His Official web page,<http://www.realworld.on.net/pg/index.html> , is sketchy on details. Check it out!! Patience, my friends...patience! ( He has been very busy trying to save the world from injustice: Amnesty, and bring the art and music cultures of the world together: W.O.M.A.D.,etc.) For what it is... I will not get involved in the Brian Wilson/Beatles debate due to a very strong case of subjectivity ( My college English Thesis was on the Beatles' influence on the Popular Culture of the Sixties!) I will say, though, that I have been listening to The Dukes' "Pale and Precious", and appreciate Andy's Beach Boys tribute ( I guess that what you would call it!). It sounds more like the Beach Boys than the Beach Boys ( Steps on toes...hides in corner), if that is possible. Of course it's not possible! Just tryin' to get a rise!! Also, the ending of "Your Dictionary" has Pet Sounds written all over it! Very tastefully, I might add! Oh, well...I got myself involved... "cause a sharp Sputnik has given me a cosmic flat tire" Jomama
------------------------------ Message-ID: <370FAEEF.573A7AC9@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:05:03 -0700 From: KenL <herne@earthlink.net> Subject: Cooking Vinyl says what? From: Chalkhills 5-167: >we are thinking of bringing out a 2nd version of AV1 with the Japanese >booklet + all the demos + more so you might want to wait a couple of >months? Really? That would be a good thing. Anybody know any details about this? If anyone from Cooking Vinyl's reading this...by all means go ahead and put this out! I suspect a lot of us will buy it. I know I will. Cheers, KL
------------------------------ Message-Id: <l03110701b33570465211@[206.173.249.186]> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:28:56 -0800 From: Eb <gondola@deltanet.com> Subject: Re: bubblegum >From: John Relph <relph@engr.sgi.com> > > Partridge submitted a unique concept to Virgin, which would be titled > "The Zither Project". Virgin would pretend to have acquired the > rights to the catalog of Zither Records, a bubblegum pop label of the > late 60s and early 70s, and they would release a sampler album. The > album would have twelve bubblegum pop songs with ribald lyrics, all > written and performed by XTC under twelve different identities, > including The Ten Commandos, Soap With Caramels and The Twelve > Flavours Of Hercules. Not so unique, if you're familiar with the Turtles' catalog.... Eb PS I have an advance disc of AV1 in the big "A" sleeve, which I can't use. If interested, just email me an offer. I'm going to be unsubscribing soon, so this is probably my last post.
------------------------------ From: music@telisphere.com Message-ID: <370FBAC3.2445@telisphere.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:55:31 -0700 Subject: Its All Great Music Duncan Kimball motioned: "I think the whole idea of trying to determine who is more of a genius is spurious, and demeans the subjects. They are all geniuses. What is to be gained by trying to rank them? Its all great music. Enjoy it." Well said! (although I do enjoy the intelligent discussion that is stimulated by some of the opinions given). Quite an eloquent dissertation on the Brian Wilson vs Beatles thread Duncan! Rather enjoyed it. What a sadly poetic story Brian Wilson. An immense talent before his time...pearls before swine...? A treasure in a fragile shell.. - RF (aka Rich Frers)
------------------------------ From: "Rogerio_Ferraz" <roger@bsnet.com.br> Subject: I'm back!!! Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:59:56 -0300 Message-id: <19990410180221.76e1d88deef011d289960080adb3a5cb.in@bsnet.com.br> Hello Everyone, I've been away for a while but I'm back now!! I guess I missed some interesting discussions... In this period away, I've been discovering a lot of new new music and you know what... no matter how many good music I was exposed to, I still consider XTC one of the best things I've ever heard in my life, and that's why I'm back! But I'd like to give my opinion on this Beatles X Beach Boys issue ( I don't know how long this has been going on...) : Come on, guys!! Let's not waste our time discussing who's "better" than who... Music is not meant to be a championship... There's no point in trying to compare music in a competitive way... I mean, how can one say that Starvinsky is "better" than the Beatles... This is totally subjective and applies to the way that music affect you. Let's enjoy and appreciate it, not worrying about "who's better"... And remember what the great Frank Zappa said, MUSIC IS THE BEST. Greetings from Brazil, Rogerio
------------------------------ From: music@telisphere.com Message-ID: <370FD279.64D4@telisphere.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:36:41 -0700 Subject: Long Live Dinosaur Rock! "Yes was the main kind of music I was trying to get away from when I got into XTC back in nineteen hummity huh. Does anybody use the phrase "dinosaur rock" anymore?" Ah, sounds like the old teenage rebellion phase.. Anything my parents (i.e. not our generation) likes is garbage. Imagine if people felt that way in general. Disregard Michaelangelo, Da Vinci, Salvador Dali, et al. After all, they're "dinosaurs"! :) Being a guitar teacher and player, I remember young musicians smugly dismissing with disdain anything older than last year as being "dinosaur rock". Interesting that these guys usually were newbies on their instruments. 3-Chord Wonders with little technique. Often art students who'd just taken up an instrument recently. Easy to dismiss what you don't understand. Long live Dinosaur Rock! - Rich Frers
------------------------------ From: Chauncy14@aol.com Message-ID: <6b3f67b4.24412e30@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:44:00 EDT Subject: Famous misheard lyric In Fruit Nut, I keep hearing: "A man must have his shit just to keep him sane" - in place of: "A man must have his shed just to keep him sane." Anyone else hear that? John Gardner -Chicago
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199904102323.TAA05093@lima.epix.net> From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:21:21 -0500 Subject: I like how this list is only a digest, so you have to come up wi > I've heard "Your Dictionary" on KLYY (Y107) in Los Angeles a couple of > times over the past week on the afternoon drive time show, each time > the DJ talked excitedly about the song. Today, he introduced the song What did they do with the profanity? Michael davies miser17@epix.net
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199904102325.TAA05444@lima.epix.net> From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:24:04 -0500 Subject: Song title > Whackiest Title for a song: > All I want for Christmas is a Dukla Prague Away Kit (Half Man Half Biscuit) Hey my favorite song title has "Prague" in it too! The Dead Milkmen's "The Infant of Prague Customized My Van". Michael davies miser17@epix.net
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199904102337.TAA06456@lima.epix.net> From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:35:08 -0500 Subject: Embarrassing song I was tired of my lady We'd been together too long Like a worn-out recording Of a favorite song
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990410201311.010389f4@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:13:11 -0400 From: "Todd E. Jones" <toddjones@mindspring.com> Subject: Last Balloon vocaltrumpet - >Mark R. Strijbos said: > >> Also just wanted to say that the last Balloon where Andy's vocals >> merge into solo at the end is simply exquisite. >One of my fave moments on the AV1 album also. >But it does make me wonder a bit... is it real or is it ProTools? Although I'm more of an analog guy, I hear nothing suggesting studio trickery, either digital or otherwise. It just sounds like a long held vocal note that fades out as a long held trumpet note is faded in. I don't mean to diminish its brilliance- it sounds so delicious, perhaps aided by the technical simplicity by which it was achieved. Todd Jones Manager, Producer, Insect Massage Therapist, Janitor HUGE sound generation and capture facility Cape Fear River Basin, NC http://www.mindspring.com/~toddjones
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990410180343.006965bc@pop.calweb.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:03:43 -0700 From: Steven Reule <steven@obsessed-with-music.com> Subject: XTC picture disc If anyone is looking for the XTC picture disc we just posted one for auction on ebay at http://www.ebay.com , just search on XTC... Thanks... Now back to the regularly scheduled programming. AV1 is great of course. Steven Reule steven@obsessed-with-music.com http://www.obsessed-with-music.com
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990411014628.40593.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "kevin donnelly" <kevin_j_donnelly@hotmail.com> Subject: Fatboy Slim &c Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:46:27 PDT >From Gary Thompson: >Most Unpleasant Musical Experience: >Having to listen to Fatboy Slim's album in my mate's car Well, Fatboy Slim is ok, though I think his stuff is a little 'dead' - ie devoid of any real life, or energy (samples and big beats not necessarily counting as lively); and I empathise with having to listen to it a mate's car - but I can think of worse musical experiences: Anthem for the Year 2000 - Silverchair. So they're only 18, who gives a shit? Their stuff is still wank. "We are the youth.../And we are knocking on death's door" yeah, really, well change the record guys, we've heard it before (Joy Division did a _much_ better job of being the youth and knocking on death's door). Crush - Jennifer Paige. Yawn. Chocolate Salty Balls - Chef. Oh no, wait, I quite _like_ this. But it makes me a bit cross when this charts and AV1 struggles to. Believe -Cher. For f***'s sake (a small contribution to the censorship debate). Outside - George Michael. Well, yes, it's funny, but that isn't all you need to make a good record it seems to me. As for the nicer subject of Sgt Peppers, how about Tin Drum by Japan; Quiet Life by er, Japan (though this isn't to be taken as an endorsement of the way they looked); All Mod Cons by the Jam; and Closer by Joy Division. Wait - and English Settlement too. Or embarrassing songs much loved: Einstein a Go Go by Landscape; 99 Red Balloons (in English translation) by Nena (I think, its quite a long time ago now); She Blinded Me with Science by Thomas Dolby . Take it easy Kevin - Do not think I underestimate your great concern.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990410213015.00691bc8@mail.pomn.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:30:15 -0700 From: QUEENIE <queenie@pomn.com> Subject: Re: So much to say! >6 albums that have had a profound impact on me: > >Mike Oldfield : Tubular Bells I and II >XTC : English Settlement >The Smiths : The Queen is Dead >Robyn Hitchcock : Globe of Frogs >Suzanne Vega : Days of Open Hand > >The rest are at http://www.bowdoin.edu/~bgott/influx.htm. I just read this list, and...whoever you are...I think I love you! You even have the Soft Boys! But I think I prefer "Eye" and "Queen Elvis" over "Globe of Frogs." Now, if only you'd had more Tom Waits on that list, and I'd be asking to marry you! ******************************************** ***Photography by QUEENIE!*** "I'm in to you so far, I'm out the other side" -Robyn Hitchcock
------------------------------ Message-ID: <371038B2.3B7D2FD2@mediaone.net> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:52:51 -0400 From: Don & Sue Parker <DonSueP@mediaone.net> Subject: XTC Talk Peppered with Ridiculous Amounts of Yes and Floyd! Yum! Hi there all you wonderful people! These threads are getting so convolved that I hardly know where to begin . . . But I'm stunned and delighted to see my youthful obsessions and my adult obsessions melding like this! I too felt, when I first got into XTC, that I was finally moving beyond the dinosaur rock of my dimly remembered youth. For a long time my two favorite bands had been, #1 Pink Floyd and #2 Yes. But in 1982, XTC sounded so new, so original, so _different_ from anything I'd heard before, and certainly light years beyond the even more ancient Beatles. Luckily this naive attitude didn't last long, especially after Mummer came out and I got my first chance to sit down and actually listen to Sgt. Pepper (doh) . . . Ridiculous Favorites?: Bike, Starship Trooper, All Together Now, My Weapon Peppers?: Meddle/Dark Side/Wish You Were Here/Animals/The Wall/The Final Cut, The Yes Album/Fragile/Close To The Edge/Relayer, Sgt Pepper/White Album/Revolver/Abbey Road, Drums and Wires/Black Sea/English Settlement/Nonsuch, Flood (threw that one in there for fun, which is appropriate because fun is what got it there), and a Cardiacs release will end up here soon enough (Thanks Dom!), but which one?! Yes song most reminded of by ROO?: We Have Heaven Favorite Voice to Instrument Segue?: The Gunner's Dream (which of all the songs where Floyd uses this device, this is the one which TLB echoes the most, and both give the same goose bumps.) BTW, The Final Cut is arguably one of Floyd's most underrated gems, but it pretty much demands to be listened to while completely alone and with lyrics at hand. It can be an emotionally overwhelming experience this way, trust me. And guess what else? I finally got Pet Sounds . . . Don "At least I can write something that _looks_ like a sig file" Parker * --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Truth doesn't demand belief. Scientists don't join hands every Sunday singing, "Yes! Gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up, must come down, down, down. Amen!" If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about it." - Dan Barker
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