Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 172
Date: Tuesday, 13 April 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 172
Tuesday, 13 April 1999
Today's Topics:
Mea Culpa!
Re: Long Live Dinosaur Rock
another cool av1 moment
Oh my!?!
Fruit Nut
Ve have vays of makink you talk ...
smalls
April 12th, 1999
I think I'll out-do myself
God rest Gilligan
Embarrassing song
Peppers
No Appo Polly Loggy.
I'm Bugged
Boo hoo... Simon Hurt My Feelings!
Football
Re: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch!
Re: Fatboy Slim &c
Waspies
Hello, this is Chalkhills, I was hoping to ask a few...
Amazing *Song Stories*
Super Furry Animals
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <19990412015324.97790.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com> Subject: Mea Culpa! Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:53:23 PDT Thanks to Michael and John for pointing out the factual error in my previous post. Indeed my memory was at fault regarding Paul's visit to America, and I was confusing Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour there - although as I think John(?) pointed out, published accounts are a little confusing too. BTW #1 - Michael thanks so much for picking up my spelling error - you pedantic bastard :) Actually, I do know the difference between effect and affect - I was gettin' a migraine OK? I wasn't concentrating). BTW #2 - Michael, I don't have the references at hand, but if you want some more information about the *possible* psychological effects of heavy, long-term use of marijuana - I'd be delighted to assist. Don't get me wrong - I'm not one of the people who think Drugs are Baaad, mm-kaaay? But, as with poor souls like Syd Barrett and Jim Gordon, it IS recognised that heavy drug use can exacerbate the onset and symptoms of pre-existing conditions, such as manic-depressive disorder or schizophrenia. It can in certain cases cause ppl to become VERY paranoid. (I mean we are talking about a guy who became so paranoid that he wouldn't shower for months because he thought Phil Spector was gonna make poisoned gas come out of the shower head!) Now on to the dread thread itself - and I promise these are my LAST words on the subject! ... I appreciate the points you all made, but I stand by my assertion that Paul's visit, his friendly warning to "hurry up", and/or the imminent appearance of Sgt Pepper, represented merely the final nail in a coffin that was already cut, glued, sanded, varnished and ready for its occupant. As Michael alluded too, Brian's behaviour was becoming increasingly bizarre over that time (cf the sandbox incident and the "Fire" sessions - although stories of him attempting to burn tapes are totally untrue) and his attitude to the music was consequently changing drastically, as his control of the whole situaiton slipped from his grasp. From my recollection of his own statements about it, Brian says he gave Smile essentially because it was creating more "bad vibrations" than he was able to deal with, and that the bad feelings he associates with the record are the principal reason he has never gone back to complete it (which many feel he easily could). But perhaps the most crucial fact (which I neglected to mention) was of course his irrevocable split in early '67 with collaborator Van Dyke Park. As I recall, Parks was finding Brian increasingly difficult to work with, but what prompted him to leave was a hostile confrontation with Mike Love, who demanded an explanation of the line "over and over the crow flies uncover the cornfield" from the song 'Cabinessence'. I think this, more than any other factor, was the real "end" of the Smile project. Many people associated with the project - including bass player Carol Kaye, whom I was lucky enough to be able to ask directly about this - are of the opinion that Brian had essentially finished the project, and could easily have had it ready for release months before Pepper if he had really wanted to. The point was that he really didn't want to. Many sources suggest that after by the end of 1966 he was really just dragging his feet, his interest evidently and rapidly waning over the early months of '67, as he tinkered with ever more abstruse snippets for possible inclusion, and was sidetracked by ideas like the home studio and the health food shop. And of course, looming over all of this was the prospect of a major lawsuit against Capitol; it cannot have escaped Brian's consideration that, in such circumstances, Capitol might well attempt 'sabotage' the album, as they had already done with Pet Sounds. (And just as the Beatles had to accept the culling of Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane, Brian had to accept the forced inclusion of "Good Vibrations" onto Smile against his express wishes). To me it's just incoceivable that the man who had the creative force to make a record like 'Pet Sounds' almost single-handedly could drop a project like Smile simply because the Beatles had a new LP coming out. It's just too simple an answer to be satisfactory. The facts as I see them are that Brian gave up because he was falling apart, because of the onset of a serious mental illness, and because the pressures of being Brian Wilson, Boy Genius, had simply become too great. Penultimately, to Michael Versaci - I appreciated your Hendrix quote, but I suspect Hendrix actually had more respect for the Beach Boys than you might imagine. And yes, they were indeed a "psychedelic barbershop quartet" - I think it's actually a compliment disguised as a putdown. Brian has always been unequivocal about the concept and role of the band; his approach and his major inspirations - Chuck Berry, the Four Freshmen, George Gershwin - were substantially different from the Beatles. The Beach Boys were first and foremost a vocal group, who became a pop band; the Beatles were a rock'n'roll band. The fact that they became "competitiors" was an historical accident. And let's face it - there's no smoke without fire - whatever band you prefer, there's no doubt that the Beach Boys made some incredible music and that the Beatles held them in high respect. As a longtime fan Im delighted to see they (and especially Brian, who has suffered more than anyone should have to) are finally being accorded the recognition they deserve. Our opinions about their respective vocal prowess differ of course, and that's fine - but I would suggest to you that it's pretty unlikely the Beatles would have come out with a piece like "Because" had it not been for the prior existence of records like the Beach Boys "Our Prayer". (BTW if anyone wants to hear it, go to the Web Sounds "Smile" pages (http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~annew/smile/index.htm) and listen to the original Smile version of "Our Prayer" and you'll be treated one of the greatest vocal performances you will ever hear - short, sweet and utterly perfect.) Last point - the BB pastiche in "Back In The USSR" may have had a slight parodic element to it, sure - but knowing Paul's admiration for Brian, I think it's basically a tribute, and perhaps a return tip of the hat for Brian's tribute to them on the "Party" LP. What? Who? XTC??? Oh yeah ... I am a veteran, regular listener to "This Sporting Life", a long-running weekly, nationally broadcast, 3-hour satirical radio gab-fest which addresses any and all issues relating to sport, the media and celebrity. It is presented by sporting legend Rampaging Roy Slaven (who has represented Australia in every known sport) and peerless commentator HG Nelson. (Those of you not in Australia ... well you're missing out - it's a national institution). Anyway - Im delighted to report that the first music track on TSL yesterday was "Greenman" and during the back-announce HG pointedly remarked that he "can't wait for Apple Venus Vol.2" This is the 3rd time I have heard it played and heard HG make VERY positive comments about the album. Yours from the sandbox Dunks
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:04:10 -0500 (CDT) From: John Fulton <fulton@ssc.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: Long Live Dinosaur Rock Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.95.990411222214.14099A-100000@guy.ssc.wisc.edu> Rich Frers pontificated: > > I remember young musicians smugly dismissing with disdain anything > older than last year as being "dinosaur rock". Perhaps I misused the phrase. By dinosaur rock I meant not something old. Rather, I meant "dinosaur rock" to denote ponderous, lumbering music with a really startlingly high pretension level. Wakeman covering Brahms is the epitome of this. (Though by the same token, Yes served as my introduction to this fantastic symphony and Brahms in general.) Or "Supper's Ready," with such sub-titles as: "Apocalypse in 9/8 featuring the delicious talents of Gabble Ratchet;" One can practically hear the brontos munching, while smaller lizards scurry up and down the keyboard. I was once a huge fan of this stuff... Speaking of old, though, I am at a loss for current examples of dinosaur species that *weren't* around 20+ years ago... > Disregard Michaelangelo, Da Vinci, Salvador Dali, et al. > After all, they're "dinosaurs"! :) >... Easy to dismiss what you don't understand. So, are those guys, like, the ones who painted the Yes cd covers and stuff? >:> Cheers, John.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <371172F5.5C98D60E@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:13:41 -0400 From: Jefferson Ogata <ogata@pobox.com> Subject: another cool av1 moment I haven't seen this one mentioned yet: end of last chorus in Easter Theatre, on the line "if we all breathe in and blow away the smoke," there is a cymbal roll -- the sound of the smoke being blown away. The same roll is at the top of the song, so one might imagine the stage is covered with fog before the play begins... Damned cool, if you ask me. -- Jefferson Ogata. smtp: <ogata@pobox.com> http://www.pobox.com/~ogata/ finger: ogata@pobox.com ICQ: 19569681 whois: jo317@whois.internic.net
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990412051402.29484.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:14:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Desmond <c_desmond@yahoo.com> Subject: Oh my!?! There are very few areas of my life in which I could still be called a maiden, so I take it where I can. Molly, sorry to break it to you, but the only thing Meatloaf ever did that was remotely interesting was The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Andrew Lloyd Webber, well... decent sense of melody but all in all not a very challenging writer. Pretty run of the mill to be honest. The world would be a better place without Cats, or at least New York. If only my computer came with a breathalizer... damn cider. --Chris "Free love - you get what you pay for" Desmond
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990412065519.78853.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Jonathan Blake" <stonyb46@hotmail.com> Subject: Fruit Nut Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:55:18 PDT someone asked if anyone else heard "a man must have his shit to keep him sane" in fruit nut. i definitely do. that's what i've thought since the first time i heard it. that's all. this is my first post. -jonathan from dayton/minneapolis
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Message-ID: <19990412072553.31077.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com>
Subject: Ve have vays of makink you talk ...
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:25:52 PDT
Hello Chalkies
* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
*This post Guaranteed not to contain any attempt to compare and/or contrast
* ANY famous 60's bands*
* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
May I offer my contribution to the Revalations and Admissions Thread? Off
we go ....
HANDS-DOWN WINNER OF FAVE DUMB SONG *AND* FAVE STUPID TITLE CONTEST
- "The Cicada That Ate Five Dock" by Outline
EEEUUUUURRGH!, or THE MOST AWFUL ALBUM COVER IN HISTORY
- Angel: "WHITE HOT"
Utterly laughable, and wholly grotesque in both conception and
execution. Simply the worst. If you don't believe me, look for yourself -
if you dare - at: http://www.grndzero.com/wh.htm
(FYI - Angel were an American glam-metal band of the mid-70s. They were
unduly immortalised by Zappa's song "Punky's Whips", written about drummer
Terry Bozzio's obsession with a pinup of Angel lead guitarist Punky
Meadows).
[SPECIAL MENTION: The Undisputed Truth - good band, godawful covers. Their
costumes (which made Earth Wind And Fire look like they were outfitted by
Pierre Cardin) were as spectacularly awful as the 70s themelves, and their
flares were so wide that Amelia Earheart is probably still lost in there
somewhere.]
ALBUM I'M MOST EMBARRASSED TO ADMIT THAT I BOUGHT:
- Lou Reed: Metal Machine Music
(Well at least I wasn't the only one ...was I?)
MOST BLUSH-MAKING PERSONAL MUSCIAL CONFESSIONS:
1. I went to see the original Australian prodcution of Jesus Christ
Superstar - three times - and frankly thought it was fantastic
2. I bought three (!) Rick Wakeman LPs *and* paid to see him live (I got
better)
3. As a budding music fan I became so obsessed with Queen that I nicked a
copy of (ironically) Sheer Heart Attack and promprtly got nicked
myself. OOPS!
WORST MUSICAL EXPERIENCE:
- DJ-ing at my friends' wedding and having to play (gag, retch, heave)
Whiteney's "I Will Always Love You" as the bridal waltz
BEST MUSICAL EXPERIENCE
- having a total stranger tell me they liked my playing
GREATEST CONCERT EVER:
- (solo) Ellen McIlwaine, Regent Theatre, Sydney, 1980
- (group) Prince & the NPG, Sydney Entertainment Centre, 1991
WORST CONCERT EVER:
- Van Morrison, Hordern Pavilion, Sydney 1984
He just didn't want to be there, and he made us all suffer for it.
[SPECIAL HOMER SIMPSON "D'OH!" AWARD to:
- Tangerine Dream, Regent Theatre, Sydney, 1979
who couldn't perform because they forgot to bring voltage adapters!
"YOU KNUCKLEHEAD!" - CLASSIC CONCERTS I COULD HAVE GONE TO, BUT DIDN'T:
- XTC ... both Oz tours ... (I know, I know, but I was broke ...)
- Graham Parker & The Rumour, Regent Theatre, Sydney, 1978
- Zappa, Hordern Pavilion, 1974
- Stevie Wonder, "Hotter Than July Tour" 1981: would you believe I FORGOT
to go???
HAPPIEST MUSICAL DAY
- meeting Peter Gabriel AND being recognised ("yes, that *was* me screaming
like a teenybopper in the front row, Peter")
SADDEST MUSCIAL DAY
- the death of Steve Marriott
BEST ROCK FILM:
- The Last Waltz
WORST ROCK FILM
- Lisztomania
(I would never normally advocate such a thing, but all trace of this film
should be expunged from the Earth)
PERFORMERS MOST DESERVING OF A SLOW PAINFUL DEATH:
- Celine Dion (female)
- Englebert Humperdink (male)
PERSON MOST LIKELY TO BE REVEALED AS THE PROPHESIED "ANTI-BOOTSY" (The
Least Funky Person Ever Born)
- Andrew Lloyd Webber
(Also richly deserves a Slow Painful Death, although one death scarcely
seems sufficient punishment, and Superstar should not be taken into account
in mitigation of sentence. Should also be Cruelly Tortured beforehand,
alongside Tim Rice, in special recognition of unique contribution to world
suffering made by composition of "Don't Cry For Me, Argentina".)
FIVE MOST OVERRATED ACTS IN HISTORY:
1. REM/Oasis (dead heat)
2. The Grateful Dead
3. Love
4. The Style Council
5. Post-Gabriel Genesis
THE SLY STONE COMMEMORATIVE "WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG?" AWARD:
- Paul Weller
UTTERLY CRAP BAND I'M PROUD TO SAY I NEVER LIKED:
- Electric Light Orchestra
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:37:34 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <v01510103b3376ba05218@[194.128.83.69]>
From: fisher@easynet.co.uk (Mark Fisher)
Subject: smalls
>"The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line"
>
>Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ?? We are both english and
>still have no idea.
>
>Simon (and KT)
It's underwear - though I have never heard the word used in any context
apart from this song. My dictionary says: "a ladies' corset which is laced
or fitted tightly to draw the waist in; a similarly cinched belt".
This line is one of the best examples of Andy's associative word-play and
wit. I guess (though I don't know) that his thinking went like this: he
liked the idea of using the word "waspie"; that made him think of wasp;
that made him think of bees; that made him think of "worker bees"; that
suggested "worker wife"; and he then added "Insect headed" for even greater
impact.
The weakness of this theory is that it means he wrote the line backwards.
If he wrote it forwards ("insect headed" leading to "worker wife" leading
to "waspies") he's even more of a genius.
Either way, it's a brilliant way of describing an identikit suburban family
(spoiled for narrative reasons, I have to admit, when dad turns out to be a
judge, hardly a run-of-the-mill occupation). It manages to suggest ordinary
back-garden life at the same time as being disturbingly surreal. Imagine if
your next-door neighbour was "insect headed".
(This reminds me of Andy's claim that he coined the phrase "ant music" for
XTC long before Adam and the Ants had been invented.)
Does that answer your question?
- Mark
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~fisher/
------------------------------ Message-ID: <37120480.62C4@schoollink.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:34:40 -0700 From: Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> Organization: CIC Subject: April 12th, 1999 HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME! HAPPY BIRTHDAY! HAPPY BIRTHDAY! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> "I would have made this instrumental, but the words got in the way." (Andy Partridge)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990412133100.10007.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:31:00 -0700 (PDT) From: nross <phoenixyellowrose@rocketmail.com> Subject: I think I'll out-do myself Wow! All your entries for the most ridiculous best-loved songs have been wonderful! I'll beat my MANDY though, with this one: CiCi- pick up that guitar and uh talk to me! I LOVE Poison. I know they suck shit (excuse the language, but it fits). I just love it, no excuses! How can you resist: "talk dirty to meeeeee, yeah! and baby why don't ya talk dirty to me..." All that lovely over-styled over-dyed blonde dry long hair on men who wear make-up. -Nicole
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v03102800b337c016f1a6@[129.105.37.210]> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:36:36 -0500 From: Olof Hellman <hellman@ksan.ms.nwu.edu> Subject: God rest Gilligan Someone mentioned they hated "Human Alchemy". Like it or not, I think its a great example of music matching lyrics. It makes the phrase "power pop" seem rather misused, as most "power pop" bands have soda pop lyrics. Re: ridiculous song, Dan Phipps wrote: >The "Gilligan's Island" theme comes to mind! >(By the time the line "The weather started >getting rough..." comes around, I'm hooked!!!) Note that it is possible to sing these lyrics to the tune of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen". Cracks me up every time. Has no one mentioned W.H.A.M. Rap ?? - Olof Olof Hellman Northwestern University, Dept. Materials Science & Engineering
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990412154025.18720.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "kristi leigh siegel" <beatlebird@hotmail.com> Subject: Embarrassing song Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:40:25 PDT >>Subject: Embarrassing song >>I was tired of my lady >>We'd been together too long >>Like a worn-out recording >>Of a favorite song That damn "Pina Colada Song". Coming to you live at every singles bar here in South Florida. A plague on our souls. Kristi
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990412162722.4599.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Linnea Strom <jlinnea@rocketmail.com> Subject: Peppers Howdy! Well, might as well put in my 2 cents as far as the Pepper thing goes. Outlandos D'Amour - The Police (The album that made my brother suggest that I listen to XTC because he thought they would be more my style) Rain Dogs - Tom Waits (My introduction to more eclectic music styles) Bookends - Simon & Garfunkel (Made me appreciate good songwriting) Oranges & Lemons - XTC (My first, though not necessarily my favorite XTC album) The Very Best Of Johnny Cash - Johnny Cash (My realization that there was more to country music than the crap they play on the radio) Though to this day not all my favorite albums, these are the ones that got me started toward what I listen to now, and I feel like I'm leaving a few out to be honest. As far as Beatles albums go, I used to sneak into my big brother's record collection when I was 5 and put on the White Album just to listen to Piggies. My favorite album of their's would have to be Revolver. As far as embarrassing songs are concerned, I would have to include Rocky Mountain High by John Denver (as well as a few other tunes by him) and The Hustle (Which a band called Brave Combo do a great cover of on their album Group Dance Epidemic). All for now. --Jennifer === And the trouble is, if you don't risk anything, you risk even more. --Erica Jong
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Message-ID: <371229E8.EF292E98@averstar.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:14:16 -0400
From: Harrison Sherwood <sherwood@averstar.com>
Organization: Averstar, Inc.
Subject: No Appo Polly Loggy.
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:10:56 -0400
> From: Lincoln Fong <LincolnFong@compuserve.com>
>
> Firstly Harrison- do you have to patronise Chris so for his singular
> comment on the music debate? (<...Wake me when this snoozefest is over>)
> I detect a note of classroom Darwinism that would exclude the comments of
> the occasional poster who you seem to regard as having nothing to say. Talk
> about taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
If Chris had had _nothing_ to say, believe me, no one would have rewarded him
with a more resounding silence than I.
But Chris' one-liner was not _nothing_. It was in fact a deliberately
hurtful and rude comment directed at John Gardner, someone who had taken
quite a lot of time and effort to post something informative and
positive. Chris deemed himself free to blow raspberries at someone making a
good-faith effort to contribute--without himself ever having posted a
single word, positive or otherwise. I don't know about you, but I think
this is is pretty crappy behavior.
I have nothing whatever against lurkers. Some of my best friends are
lurkers. I don't sit in judgment of whether people have "something" or
"nothing" to say in Chalkhills, and I would never discourage anyone from
posting anything they damned well feel like--or nothing at all. But when
someone delurks simply to hurl a brainless insult at somebody who's
actually putting up some numbers, then I get mad.
------
It doesn't get any better than "Starry Eyes" by the Records.
Unless it's the Rembrandts' theme song from "Friends," my entry in the
Embarrassing Beloved Song Contest.
They kind of resemble each other, don't they?
I've got an appointment at Bobby Mitchum's tattoo parlor later today: get
one set of knuckles that sez "LOVE," the other sez "HATE."
------
Burgess/Clockwork Orange/Fuzzy Warbles:
The glossary of Nadsat Language from Burgess' book at the excellent
Clockwork Orange website
(http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3111/aco.htm -- glossary at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3111/aco_nadsat.htm) mentions
"warbles" as "songs," but not specifically "fuzzy warbles."
The movie script is available at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3111/aco_script1.txt. It's been
several decades since I read Burgess' novella, and I don't remember if
Alex's comical little threeway diversion is in the book--I don't think it
is; that scene is so screamingly Kubrickian that I bet it was written
specifically for the film. Here's the relevant passage from the script, O
best beloved droogies:
Alex: Pardon me ladies. Enjoying that are you my darling? A bit cold and
pointless isn't it my lovely. What's happened to yours my little sister?
Devotchka [girl]: Who you getting bratty? Goggly Googol? Johnny Shivago?
The Heaven 17?
Alex: What you got back home little sister to play your fuzzy warbles on?
I bet you've got little say pitiful portable picnic players. Come with
Uncle and hear all proper. Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones.
You are invited.
God, I can hear Walter Carlos' switched-on "William Tell Overture" starting
up.... Viddy a still from this scene at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3111/aco_picaco10.jpg -- Legible
titles in stack at left: "The Sparks," "The Blow Gobs," "The Legend,"
"Cyclops." I get the Russian-lit allusions of "Goggly Googol" (Gogol) and
"Johnny Shivago" (Pasternak), but "Heaven 17"? Anyone?
So this scene has now engendered at least two group/album titles: "Fuzzy
Warbles" and "Heaven 17." And there's a close enough resemblance between "A
bit cold and pointless" and "Crocodile"'s "A bit cold and lifeless like the
burger on my plate" that I'm willing to believe this scene to be
particularly high on the Partridgean Faves list. (Alex's "cold and
pointless" is referring to the priapic popsicles that both devotchkas are
so alluringly blow-gobbing as they shop for tunes.)
I want a jacket like that one.
Harrison "Siiiinging in the rain...." Sherwood
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Message-Id: <199904121913.VAA23662@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:26:51 +0200
Subject: I'm Bugged
Dear Chalkers,
> "The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line"
don't you all think the waspies could just be a play on washing,
continuing the 'insect headed worker wife' wordplay ?
IMHO the American W.A.S.P. acronym probably did not enter Andy's
mind... when we Europeans talk about a wasp we mean the insect
variety!
yours in xtc,
Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
or http://come.to/xtc
------------------------------ Message-id: <fc.000f4ca300207c47000f4ca300207c47.208096@cfrb.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:02:32 -0400 Subject: Boo hoo... Simon Hurt My Feelings! From: rgreenham@thebear.net (Rich Greenham) Simon wrote the following six words in regards to my undying love of the trashy and inimitable "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" by Mac and Katie Kissoon... : "Nope nope nope nope nope nope." Simon made me cry like a little girl... Then he wrote this: "While Mac & Katie were responsible for some utter dreck in their day (which always got to No1, much to the despair of my friends & I (we must have been 12/13 at the time) who loathed all Disco records) they didn't do this, but for the life of me I can't remember who did do it - was it Middle of the Road, or did they do _Son of My Father_ ??" And to add insult to injury, Simon signed it: "yours confusedly Simon" Them's fightin' words, brother! : ) I work in radio. I know my music. And you doubted my facts to the extent of six "nopes"! *shudder* Prepare to taste the wrath of my Billboard Top Pop Singles reference book... *evil laughs* Ahem... KISSOON, Mac and Katie Brother and sister from Port-of-Spain, Trinidad. Moved to England in the late 50's. Their "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" made it's debut on July 24, 1971 and spent 15 weeks on the Billboard Charts -- peaking at number 15! Ahhh -- I am vindicated. But, somehow, vengeance does not taste as sweet as it should! *sigh* Simon -- piece of advice, buddy... Never slight a radio-guy! We're very shy and our fragile egos bruise easily. If we could take criticism, we'd be on TV! Thanks for giving some miniscule meaning to an otherwise boring Monday afternoon in Ottawa... Cheers! Rich now playing: Apparitions -- Matthew Good Band (kickass Canuck talent)
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Message-ID: <001a01be851e$fd462ba0$6310883e@o.e.e>
From: "John Bartlett" <john@bartlett132.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Football
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:52:35 +0100
Hello all,
what with the recent talk of the beautiful game, does anybody know
whether messers Partridge and Moulding are SwindonTown supporters ?
And Dom, ther could still be a space for us(the mighty Irons) in the
UEFA cup, but it involves Man Utd being European champs. Can you live with
this?
Cheers,
John
------------------------------ Message-ID: <n03MGMAx0PE3IwqL@coopefamily.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:51:13 +0100 From: KT <Katy@coopefamily.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch! In article <00a701be8330$b7fe0760$49a725ca@speedking>, Simon Curtiss <mduffy@clear.net.nz> writes > >"The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line" > >Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ?? We are both english and >still have no idea. > >and no it's not wasps, At least, We don't think so. I've heard wasps called 'Wabbies' though..Mayby it's just more slang.. -- KT Coope
------------------------------ Message-ID: <q0tPmWAZ$PE3IwL+@coopefamily.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:02:33 +0100 From: KT <Katy@coopefamily.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Fatboy Slim &c In article <19990411014628.40593.qmail@hotmail.com>, kevin donnelly <kevin_j_donnelly@hotmail.com> writes >Well, Fatboy Slim is ok, though I think his stuff is a little 'dead' - ie >devoid of any real life, or energy (samples and big beats not necessarily >counting as lively); and I empathise with having to listen to it a mate's >car - but I can think of worse musical experiences: me too, I'd I'm supposed to like 'Chart Music..' How bout Billie - anything by her..I don't care, it all make me want to throw the radio out the window That Boyzone one that webber wrote - ugh! The vengaboys, we like to party - The amount of times I've had THAT played at me during woodwork.. any of that soppy pap from B*withched or the coors (ESPECIALLY the coors)... Hah! I can disrupt my teenage image! Gimme Nonsuch or spilt milk anyday! -- Katy Coope
------------------------------ Message-ID: <005f01be848f$c57f5a00$4ce0abc3@vucqprlj> From: "David Seddon" <D.Seddon@btinternet.com> Subject: Waspies Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:54:22 +0100 >"The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line" > >Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ?? We are both english and >still have no idea. I always assumed the 'wasp' used here was the acronym for 'white anglo-saxon protestant', and although I could probably come up with some contrived explanation on how this fits in with the racial elements of NTIOW, I'll leave that up to someone else. :-) Aren't they a rather racy type of ladies lingerie with suspender straps at the bottom? You know, a little like camisoles only more provocative. Think I'll go and take a cold shower!! David Seddon
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s7121c9f.062@dineout.org> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:17:28 -0400 From: "Jason Hauser" <JHAUSER@dineout.org> Subject: Hello, this is Chalkhills, I was hoping to ask a few... This looks like fun, so- Least favourite moment on Apple Venus1: "Your Dictionary". It's too much. Least Fav XTC song: "Melt the Guns". It's grating, but it's really not all that bad. Artist most people seem to think is pretty naff, but you actually quite enjoy: Roxy Music. Can I get a witness? Worst Beatles song: "Revolution #9". It's interesting, but is it a song? Songs that should have been strangled at birth: Theme from Friends, by the Rembrandts. God help me, I'll kill them all. That Barenaked Ladies song that sounds like a commercial, you know. "Illegal Alien", by Phil Collins. "Weird Al" should have wrote this. Extremely popular artists that you can't see what all the fuss is about: Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Boyz II Men, Backstreet Boys, Puff Daddy Musician you'd like to kick hard: Rod Stewart Whackiest Title for a song: "Several Species of Small, Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave Grooving with a Pict" Most Unpleasant Musical Experience: Cats. Ohhh, the horror.
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From: Chauncy14@aol.com
Message-ID: <414f230c.2443b13d@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:27:41 EDT
Subject: Amazing *Song Stories*
Hello chalkers and -erettes!
I was just wondering if anyone who has completed their copy of *Song
Stories* have any comments about their _most surprising fact_ learned after
reading it; or the least surprising for that matter.
There were many for me, one stands out significantly, but I am interested
in knowing what others on this wonderful digest have to say about this
book. {Please forgive me on this late entry, I had joined just as some of
the *heavies* on the digest were spiralling out of control on the subject
of the book into other areas of the give and take, and having combed
through digests and posting brief jaunts myself, of such and such subject
matter, was oblivious to the thing that was nagging at me the most: the
drums, and who the drummers were on all those post-Chambers albums. The
most obvious and most noted drummer in my view was Prairie Prince, who I
have long since stopped listening to after *Wild Women of Wongo* was
recorded.}
Well, the most surprising fact for me was how few drummers XTC hired to do
their albums, and, on so few songs were they commissioned to play. (Hey
Andy, if you need an experienced drummer...I've got syncopations down
pat!!! :)
Their use of the Linn Drum astounds me!!! Because as it was, according to
Colin, they probably spent half their session time programming that damn
drum machine. And, having read the book album-by-album, as it were, I
realized what had nagged at me everytime I listened to any *one* album by
XTC: the drums. As I am a drummer of 30 years, the rudiments, vocal
patterns, cadences and sound are all so important to me. I was searching
all this time for the acoustic nature of the song only to have my hopes
dashed my the book in such a way only a drummer would know. Now, instead
of listening with the trained ear, I NOW automatically hear the thing I
have been missing all this time. And that drives me batty because I
expected XTC's drums to be acoustic, and I wasn't listening for that on
each album...but...but...
Of course, having exposed myself there, it just goes to show you the power
and influence one band can have on one person who was otherwise oblivious
to the drums, so immersed in the musical tongue of each beat, and blind to
the electronic beck and call of the Linn Drum that it embarrasses me to
have not spotted it sooner. AAARRRGGGGHHHHH!
Did anyone have pangs of consciousness while reading this excellent, if
tardy, autobiography? Any one have any *eurekas* to share?
One young chalker earlier hung a shingle out about great drums songs by
XTC: Let me get back to you on that one!
John Gardner
------------------------------ Message-ID: <00a301be8517$f2066540$051217d4@smj> From: "Stephen Jackson" <smj@zen.co.uk> Subject: Super Furry Animals Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:09:09 +0100 Cheryl wrote <Jumping off of the XTC bandwagon and into a completely different subject... Super Furry Animals. Anyone into them? Are you kidding? They are one of the best bands of the 90's. "Radiator" is a fantastic record. SFA are one of the few bands who owe XTC a debt (and SFA's second album is better than XTC's second album...<controv>) Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Two steps forward, six steps back.
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