Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 292 Thursday, 21 October 1999 Today's Topics: MP3s, lyrics, other important (ahem) stuff I'm an idiot. Kidsongs miscellaneous ramblings re: "Homespun" -- to own or not to own... Homespun albums and the best of the best... I order you to like New Order A Man! A Plan! A Canal! Andy Partridge! Church of Women & Box of Rhythms or are you bald? phantom xtc video re: xtc fan tributes AN ANNOUNCEMENT Thank you , Dorothy Thanks for the welcome. I'm staying. boing-boing-boingo a little song, a little dance... oh, no, say it's not true! They Might Be Ungrateful six dayglow vodka jellies on the brain Woodentops Re: XTC covers....Probably better for the Dukes Administrivia: I'm out of town until Sunday, so no Chalkhills until then. Have patience! To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.7 (John Relph <relph@sgi.com>). It's not just you back that's hurting.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ElizaS33@aol.com Message-ID: <0.effbfaf6.253f5b98@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:53:28 EDT Subject: MP3s, lyrics, other important (ahem) stuff Hi nice Chalkpeople, A few comments on recent threads: Veronica asked about MP3 recommendations. Not that I don't have any, because I do, but I highly recommend taking a look at www.listen.com. It's a fairly comprehensive, cross-referenced and reviewed index to downloadable music, covering the known and the unknown alike (including the useful stuff on mp3.com), with a not-entirely- useless "sounds like..." feature. Favorite lyricists: I really can't get it down to 5, but I will anyway. In no particular order: Andy Prieboy, Jeff McGregor from the Solipsistics, Randy Newman, Aimee Mann and that Partridge guy. And speaking of lyricists, some of you may be interested in knowing that Anton Barbeau has a new CD coming out on Frigidisk in about 2 weeks; check it out at, oddly enough, www.frigidisk.com. Cathryn said: >>I too debated whether to buy homespun as I finally managed to get my hands on the Demos (thank you Pancho. Are you enjoying the Negro Problem). << Considering events of recent days, I think it might be prudent to mention that the Negro Problem is a *band*. (and a damn good band at that!) And on a final note, I must say the coverage of the recent Chalkhills summit was some of the most entertaining reading I've had in a while... thanks, folks! Elizabeth The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199910201903.PAA13695@mail1.javanet.com> Subject: I'm an idiot. Date: Wed, 20 Oct 99 15:04:57 -0500 From: Max Germer <maxindu@javanet.com> It's taken me a good 12 years, but I've finally aquired the mind-blowing Dukes of Stratosphere cd. I will now kick myself once an hour for not having bought it sooner. But it is kind of a nice treat, having a fresh XTC record to obsess over. Homespun should be on my doorstep tomorrow, which should carry me until AV2. Veronica mused: >Have any of you >discovered any great indie bands out there with MP3 >files? There's thousands of bands listed at MP3.com, >but who has time to listen to them all? Any >suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Please visit http://www.themaggies.com/ and download some of our mp3s. We thank you for your support! Max Maggie
------------------------------ Message-Id: <B195726DB50AD2118E880008C7FAA6FC0141F555@newman.partech.com> From: Janis VanCourt <Janis_VanCourt@partech.com> Subject: Kidsongs Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:10:49 -0400 The apparently (ah!) childless Melissa asked for parent/children related songs other than: <<Garden of Earthly Delights Pale and Precious Holly up on Poppy Then She Appeared Pink Thing Hold Me My Daddy Making Plans for Nigel No Thugs in Our House Angry Young Men Scissor Man Toys This World Over I Remember the Sun Earn Enough for Us Chalkhills and Children I Can't Own Her Knights in Shining Karma the Giant Peach demos Any more suggestions?>> Sure: The Last Balloon Here's what Andy said about this song in the Homespun liner notes: "It's primarily a sad song, we, who are stained by our bad deeds, our violence, weapons, vanity, we aren't going to get on board that balloon to a better place. It's the young who are. It's the young who must not make the same stupid mistakes that we have. They are the hope. They must not listen to us, they must drop us, like ballast,if they are to rise above it all. I'm an optimist at heart and feel, even thought it's grey here, that above and into the future it will be brighter, fresher where my children are going." -Janis PS: You can still read the rest of the Homespun liner notes at http://members.aol.com/starlingv/homespun.txt
------------------------------ From: "Michael D. Myers" <mmyers@telcordia.com> Message-ID: <85256810.006CF63E.00@notes950.cc.telcordia.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:49:59 -0400 Subject: miscellaneous ramblings Chalksters and Chalkettes; Just a few thoughts in no particular order: - One of my favorite Christmas songs has no been listed yet (and I must admit that some of the songs mentioned so far are new to me and I'm going to try to pick them up when I can). It is "Christmas Must Be Tonight" by the Band. It's from the 70's of course and not that well known but the words and the sentiment are among Robbie Robertson's finest. - From: Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com> >I just got Homespun, and I love it.......Homespun should have been >released first in my opinion. Excuse me, Mr. "I've Never Lost a Logical Argument in My Life", but wouldn't you agree that this might be a really, really bad move by a record company who was trying to publicize and break a ground-breaking release by a significant, newly-signed band (in fact, there is talk of a Grammy nomination for AV1). Don't you think that just maybe, if they released Homespun first, which is the quintessential hot-off-the-press, fresh-out-of-the-workshop (shed) sketchbook-quality release of songs-in-the-making, that it might in fact have died a quick death in the marketplace? Since only 20,000 or so copies of Homespun will be sold (and yeah, I know that's an artificial limit), it's safe to say that almost no one but hard-core fans would have bought Homespun under the scenario you describe. Please recall that this was their first release in *7* years. However, since we are not arguing about this, just discussing philosophies, you can rest easy :-) I am glad you enjoyed it and welcome to the list (really!). >I have not bought the Transistor Box set yet, thats next. What >did everyone think of that? Is it worth the money? It all depends upon what other XTC product you own. 2 of the 4 CDs in this box set were released earlier and are duplicated in this set. So, if you own them already, you have to make a decision as to whether you want to lay out a modest amount of money for 2 new CD's worth of great live and BBC product. If you don't, it's a no-brainer. Suffice it to say that the sound quality is real good and the performances are energetic and tight; they were a very, very good live band. Also, they stretch out a little bit in places and you get to hear Dave's solos without them being layered into the mix as some of the studio recordings tend to do. Peace and music, Mike
------------------------------ Message-ID: <380E4D2D.2615@schoollink.net> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:15:57 -0700 From: Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> Organization: CIC Subject: re: "Homespun" -- to own or not to own... From a completist's point of view... No one's XTC collection would indeed be complete without the wonderful and unique "Homespun" disc!! Having a lot of XTC boots and demos myself, I heard things on this collection from Av1 that *I* don't even have!! So in two words (or less) -- BUY IT!!!! (You won't be sorry!) Peace and Balance -- -- /Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> "All we are saying is give peace a chance!" (John ///o-o\\\ Lennon)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <388025972.940450865339.JavaMail.root@web04.pub01> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:21:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com> Subject: Homespun albums and the best of the best... I'm guessing that the Homespun thing is a rumor. I just don't believe they would do that. AV1 has been out for a while and I don't think its confusing people at all. Jumping in Gomorrah has to be my favorite track from GO 2. I just loved that track. I was listening to their new stuff and I really don't think they changed so much. I mean yes, there is a significant change, but I still feel that overall, their sound has many similar qualities. I loved the old stuff, as I love the new, so either way, they have continued to make music the fans would love. They grew up with us in a way... Sort of like Boingo. OH, as for TMBG, Lincoln would have to be my favorite record. I mean, going to visit the cow beneath the sea?! That was brilliant! As for the favorite lyricist thing, this is hard for me. I have so many, in so many genres of music, but I will have to go with whatever pops into my head. Which by the way, I wont mention people like Duke Ellington or Cab Calloway, to me, artists like that are above favorite lyricist lists. I mean, they are like the apostles of music sort of thing... I can't do 10, I will do 20! 10 Favorite Lyricists: Danny Elfman Andy Partridge (Colin is GREAT too, but I don't want to fill up this list with 2 people from the same group!). John (They Might Be Giants, I wont even say which one!) David Lowery (Camper Van Beethoven, Cracker) Robyn Hitchcock (GOD) Mark Mothersbaugh (DEVO <Midget... damn, who could think of lyrics like that?!>) John Lydon (Sex Pistols, PIL) Bob Marley (If you don't know...) Chrissy Hynde (Pretenders) Mick Jones (BAD, The Clash) Joe Strummer (The Clash, The Pogues, Solo) Dale (Missing Persons) Frank Black (Pixies, Solo) David Byrne (Talking Heads) Ivan (Men Without Hats) Elvis Costello (come on, if he is not on the list then you gotta be crazy!) Daniel Ash (I did not enjoy the new stuff much, but overall, Love & Rockets, TOT had some really great stuff.) Jello Biafra (The outspoken punk himself of Dead Kennedy's.) Adam Ant. (Just the way he pushed his music with Marco... I don't know, I just loved it!) Beck. Though I am very old (moving on 26) and don't like a lot of the Pearl Jam aftermath groups, Beck is a great lyricist. Though I have not heard him in a long ass time, Howard Jones was also deserving of this list. (I would like to have Pauline Black <The Selecter> up here, but she did not write many of the songs she performed so I didn't put her up here, but she is one of my favorites.) Worst 1 of all time: Morrissey (don't hate me please, but after that "stop me I think I've heard this one before" song, I kept saying that to myself as all the songs became weak and boring. Anything before the later stuff and solo stuff was good.). I love J Marr though, and I enjoyed The The, but Electronic was a big disappointment. Though I like the members separately. Neil deserved this list also. I loved PSB!
------------------------------ From: fheaney@erols.com Message-ID: <001301bf1b3c$c9e551a0$13df7ad1@default> Subject: I order you to like New Order Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:43:25 -0400 Dom grumbled: > I'm sure I'm not the only person who can't stand to listen to Electronic > due to the appalling way Johnny Marr has pissed away his talent since > leaving The Smiths. Considering that he was widely acknowledged as THE > guitarist of his generation, it has always struck me as hugely > disappointing that he couldn't bring himself to do anything more > interesting than that sub-New Order drivel, inaudible guitar parts and > all. What a waste. But I *like* New Order drivel. Anyway, "Twisted Tenderness", the new Electronic, has guitars all over the place -- Marr's finally playing his damn instrument again, and that's one of the reasons it's such a satisfying listen. It's like New Order with more meat on it. The previous "Raise the Pressure" had no guitar audible and stank, but the lack of guitar wasn't the only reason (though it certainly contributed)...it also featured incredibly faceless songwriting, a real letdown after their first swell album. And criminy -- you make one little throwaway "caesura" joke and people jump down your throat. Who knew people could get so serious about something as minor as a usually rhetorical break in the flow of sound in the middle of a line of verse? It could've been worse, you know...I shudder at the string of horrid puns we could've faced after an exhortation to avoid the word "diaeresis" instead. (Rimshot.) Tanka. Tanka very much. Take my amphibrach! Please! New purchases: A big wad of Joni Mitchell. What can I say? I woke up with a craving. "For the Roses" is my favorite so far. (XTC content: still waiting for "Homespun". But apparently it was shipped yesterday.) -- Francis "John said to John, 'I think we make a left at the light...there should be a big crinkle, assuming this map is right.'" -- They Might Be Giants
------------------------------ From: BRJohnson1@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b710971b.253f871d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:59:09 EDT Subject: A Man! A Plan! A Canal! Andy Partridge! Here's a fun XTC fact I'd never heard before... After the US invasion of Panama in early 1990, Manuel Noriega holed up in the Papal Nuncios's house in Panama City. The US Army's PSYOPS unit from Ft. Bragg set up loudspeakers on the street and cranked rock-n-roll day and night in an attempt to smoke him out. One of the songs played was "The Mayor Of Simpleton." For a complete list of songs played, check out this recently declassified NSA document at http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/DOCUMENT/950206.htm Brad
------------------------------ Message-ID: <380E2E29.D57E0122@xpress.es> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:03:37 +0200 From: Imanol Ugarte <ix8494@xpress.es> Subject: Church of Women & Box of Rhythms Hi all, The other day when listenening to "Church of Women" thought to my self : this amazing-crazy-charming guitar solo should be let as it is in the final version of Apple Venus 2 . Maybe Andy consider it as some erratic improvised part but each time I hear it, it makes me laugh, I don't know why, but there's some early XTC essence -whatever it is-on it ,in one word : lovely. In my last message I wrote Box of Rhythms instead of Drum Machine, that's because in Spanish it's called Caja de Ritmos. Another mistake I did was the Leonard Cohen's album tittle : Songs of Love and Hate instead of Songs from Love and Hate. If it's not too late to repair mistakes... Regards Imanol
------------------------------ Message-ID: <006401bf1b40$9fb724e0$ea548218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Victor Rocha" <wstsidela@mediaone.net> Subject: or are you bald? Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:18:12 -0700 still waiting for that list of hair products Victor Rocha P.S. was that a tabacco or cherry sunburst gutmaster?
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991020215032.95971.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "garret harkawik" <funktaisia@hotmail.com> Subject: phantom xtc video Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:50:31 EDT I always forget to ask this when I post something and I finally remembered, so here it is. The first time I heard xtc was a few years ago when my brother downloaded a short 40-second computer animation of a lot of gears moving. Why sould you care? Well it featured the song "Towers of London". After I heard it I was an instant fan. But anyway, does anyone know who made this or where I could find it? I think my brother had it on a disk somewhere, but he probably threw it out. * ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> mentioned the song "Suzy Snowflake" by Soul Coughing. Soul Coughing is one of my favorite bands, but i've never heard of this song before and I know its not on any of their albums, so does anyone know where I could find it? He also mentioned e-mailing vh-1 to try and get them to make a "Behind The Music" on Xtc. I think it is everyone's duty who is a fan of Xtc to e-mail vh-1 right now about this! If we all e-mail them a lot maybe they'll do it because there are a lot of people on this list. I loved the "Where are they now" segment they did on them, but they pronounced xtc's name wrong! In fact, just about every time that i've heard someone interview them or talk about them on tv or on the radio, they always pronounce it wrong! I wonder if this makes Andy or Colin mad? Garret "s the greatest person to ever live" Harkawik
------------------------------ Message-ID: <380E4444.FF53B042@autoreverse.net> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:37:57 -0400 From: Ian C Stewart <ian@autoreverse.net> Organization: http://www.AUTOreverse.net/ Subject: re: xtc fan tributes AN ANNOUNCEMENT Hello well, since there's been some discussion lately about XTC fan tributes I might as well at least hint about the cat I have in this here bag. See, it goes like this: BIZARRE DEPICTION is proud to announce O+L: THE XTC FANS' TRIBUTE TO 'ORANGES AND LEMONS.' All of the tracks have been reserved already and the assembly process has begun. The fun part (the recording, the compiling, the mastering) will take place over the next 6-8 months in various parts of the world. Upon its completion, "O+L" will be distributed via a website. ORDERS ARE NOT YET BEING ACCEPTED. In the meantime BIZARRE DEPICTION will be re-releasing all of its XTC tributes on CD and offering them separately and as a box set. THESE ARE NOT AVAILABLE YET EITHER. I'm just making conversation at this point. But since you asked, the confirmed track listing for "O+L" is: Garden Of Earthly Delights: John Relph Mayor Of Simpleton: Bob Brainen King For A Day: Peter Fitzpatrick Here Comes President Kill Again: Raymond Lilly The Loving: Daniel Prendiville Poor Skeleton Steps Out: John Neil One Of The Millions: Ben Gott Scarecrow People: Mitch Friedman Merely A Man: Jim Smart Cynical Days: The Ian C Stewart Across This Antheap: Neblung Price Hold Me My Daddy: Chris Breetveld Pink thing ("Cosa Rosa"): Franco Turra Miniature Sun: Saffron Matted Voids (Dave Stafford + Ken Mistove) Chalkhills And Children: R Stevie Moore it'll be out in 2000 at some point. It used to take 2 years to put together a compilation, but I think with this one we're looking at 18 months tops. Ha. Hopefully between now and then this compilation can find a better, more suitable name than "O+L." That's a hint. later, Ian C Stewart http://come.to/bizarredepiction
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501bf1b4e$4d02ee60$655791d2@p13s574p> From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: Thank you , Dorothy Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:55:26 +0900 Dorothy wrote re : logical arguments >A hate-filled ignoramus is a hate-filled ignoramus. Some of them call >themselves XTC fans; some of them call themselves Christians; ... >But bigotry is *not* representative of XTC, and violence is *not* >representative of Jesus Christ. >Just as it would be misleading to say that *XTC fans* slurred Charlie, >it is misleading to say that *Christians* threatened to bomb that radio >station. In both cases, it was ignoramuses. >People *claiming* to be Christians may have threatened that radio station, I was wondering if anyone other than I was going to address Satanas' remarks . Where is all the outrage when somebody on the list makes an off the cuff comment like " I hope alll you Christians out there won't kill me " ( ref. to his Satanas alias and " devilish " e-mail address ) . Maybe he was joking ; maybe he wasn't . The point is everybody on this list other than Dorothy and myself let it slide . There were dozens who jumped to Charile's defense with no proof whatsover that people on this list called him racist epithets ; but when his buddy Satanas mocks what he percieves to be Christians those who threaten to bomb radio stations and kill people whose name is Satanas ) ; Dorothy's voice and mine stand alone in outrage . Sorry all for bringing this up again ; I just had to get it off my chest . John in Japan P.S. BUY HOMESPUN !
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991021004137.22490.rocketmail@web1702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:41:37 +1000 (EST) From: Mud Shark <mudshark1944@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Thanks for the welcome. I'm staying. First of all, many thanks to those of you (namely Stephanie, Dunks, Andrew (the ratwhacker?), Iain, Paul and Greg) who mailed me off-list to welcome me to the fold. Your cordiality is much appreciated. Now, to business (cue sounds of glasses being charged): re : Favourite/Least Favourite Lyricists. Well, what the hell? This sounds like a bit of fun, so here's my choices (admittedly, some have been mentioned before, and I left out Andy Partridge because we already know about him and I'm limiting myself to five) : Favourite : 1. Richard Thompson 2. Neil Young 3. Roger Waters 4. John Hiatt 5. Bob Dylan Least Favourite : 1. John Farnham 2. the guy from Savage Garden 3. Daniel Johns 4. Van Morrison (everything since about 1980) 5. whoever writes for Shania friggin' Twain (her album has been #1 in Australia for about eleven years - I think this would be suitable grounds for emigration, if I was sure that no other country had heard of her). Dom Lawson added to the raging football debate : >>Oh yeah, Up The Hammers! Now that's football.......<< Oh yeah? Well, Glasgow Rangers could tear West Ham a new arse any day of the week! (and my daddy could beat up your daddy, by the way - let's get in touch to arrange a time). :) >>Would anyone like my list of the hair products I own?<< Speaking as someone who no longer has any hair, I find this kind of discussion deeply offensive and insensitive to the bald community. My cueball noggin and I await a lavish apology. From Megan Heller : >>hm, to the fellow looking for Xmas music, I always liked the Bowie/Bing Crosby thing. I know there were a lot of people who hated it on principle (sell-out, whatever), but I'm too young to be bothered by that (it was recorded the year of my birth),<< AAAAGGGHHHH!! I'm my parents! I'm my parents! Sorry ; when you get as decrepit as me, you sometimes have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that the people born in the 1970s (and 1980s now) are old enough to vote. How about this for a new thread? Who's the oldest Chalkhiller? I hereby submit my birth date as April 1, 1944 (yeah, yeah, April Fool, I've heard it....). Any advances? MS ===== "I rail against God because I was told to stop eating paste in Sunday school" - P.J.O'Rourke
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199910210123.VAA20083@nantucket.net> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:17:43 -0400 Subject: boing-boing-boingo From: "Diamond" <arnos@nantucket.net> Regarding Oingo Boingo (now called Boingo) (formaly the mystic nights of Oingo Boingo) I have a strange tale (Strange tail) Regarding them in context with XTC and They Might be giants. Let me start at the begining... My best friend and I were both RABID They Might Be Giants fans, they were our favorite band. But then, last december, he found a band called... Oingo boingo! well, he really seemed to like them. In fact, that week he but FOUR of thier CD's. Well, I figured if he bought for of thier CD's in one week, they must be good. So I asked him about it... and he made me promise never to buy anything by them ever. Is this strange? He has this... complex, I guesse, that makes him want to keep everything to himself. He has "denied" me the right to buy anything by Frank Zappa, Steely Dan, or Stephen King, just to name a few. I have no Idea Why!!! At any rate, about a week after he denied me the right to buy an Oingo Boingo album, (December 18 to be exact) I bought my first XTC album. well, so far I've heard nothing by Oingo Boingo that beats XTC, so I'm not to worried. But still, does my friends actions seem... a little strange to you? He's always been an extremely neurotical and paranoid person (He looks just like woody allen when he puts glasses on... another person I'm not allowed to "Get Into" as he puts it) He's also tried to make sure I don't get into Oingo Boingo by saying "I'd never get into XTC" to which I reply "I don't care!" I'd love it if he got Into XTC!!!! The More The Merrier. As of now, he has Oranges and lemons by XTC, which I made him buy. He really like it, but he doesn't let it show very much. Anyway, hope you enjoyed or scrolled down before you got to bored. Kevin P. Warnermont III AKA Kevin Dimaond _____________________________________ "No one in the world ever get's what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful" -John Linnell/They Might Be Giants
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991021032358.84586.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com> Subject: a little song, a little dance... Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:23:55 CDT oh, whatever. Paul.Culnane@dcita.gov.au quotes from a review on the other side of the world-- >8/10. Cross reference: Phillip Glass, The Beatles, Squeeze. yikes. One of these things is not like the other. (I like Philip Glass, but I never really thought of Glass mixing with British pop.) Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> thought-- >Subject: VH1 onslaught and then Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> followed with-- >Subject: re: XTC on VH1's "Behind The Music"... I thought this was funny, since I was just thinking of proposing the same thing the other night-- specifially when "Thin Lizzy: Behind the Music" came on. m.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19991020233257.007039b4@mail.interlog.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:32:57 -0400 From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com> Subject: oh, no, say it's not true! >From: Lawson Dominic <LawsonD@parliament.uk> >Hey, I like XTC and Limp Bizkit. dom, are you serious?!? you like xtc... and you like limp bizkit, too? you mean that we actually agree on TWO things at the same time? what is this world coming to? peace out! peace: live in it or rest in it davidoh
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991021035408.6153.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com> Subject: They Might Be Ungrateful Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:54:08 CDT Tyler Hewitt recounts-- >I met TMBG a few years ago when I was a humble >employee of a record store in Ann Arbor. >Unfortunately, they were pretty much pricks. Hasn't >stopped my liking their music, however. I tried to >justify their behavior-if I was on tour and exhausted, >I would probably treat some record store geek/fan >badly as well. I have, unfortunately, heard similar stories. For one, I heard a band that had toured with them as their backing band talk about how much they hated TMBG after the experience, to the point that they'd stolen the license plates off John and John's van out of spite for being treated so badly. I wasn't sure I bought this story, and then last year a professor of mine, Adam Potkay, who was the lead singer of the New Jersey-based band SPIRAL JETTY, told me about their experience touring with them. He said they were basically assholes-- something that surprised me since Adam is truly one of the sweetest men I have ever met with an always-sunny disposition whom I had never heard say an unkind word about anyone. (I liked him as a person, I hated taking classes from him-- that cheery stuff will start to drive you nuts.) So, I don't know, I think it's a shame that they act like that, but it's nice to know there are others to counter it (I haven't had the chance to meet XTC, but it sounds like it's been a good experience for most. I did meet Mark Eitzel, formerly of American Music Club, a couple of times, and he is very friendly.) m.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991021053459.36650.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com> Subject: six dayglow vodka jellies on the brain Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:34:58 CDT Wes Long (WESnLES@aol.com) shares his cd player lineup-- >Momus 20 Vodka Jellies (thanks Jeffie) excellent! a wonderful collection! very good listening (although the "grunge" tracks can be a little painful). >Louis Phillipe A Kiss In The Funhouse (thanks Jeffie) support Le Grand Magistery! (this Jeffie obviously has fine taste in music. And it's probably someone on here who I have insulted by forgetting.) >Belle And Sebastian If You're Feeling Sinister fantastic. >Kula Shaker Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts damn it, and then you had to do that. oh, well, I suppose it can be forgiven. travis schulz <xtcisadarngoodband@yahoo.com> inquires-- > I was on the Martin Newell site "Wildman Of >Wivenhoe" and read an interview where Martin Newell >noted his use of an "unused XTC song" entitled Pearl. >Has anyone here heard this cover originally written by >Andy P.? I haven't heard the cover, but I have the original on a tape somewhere... was it on Jules Verne's Sketchbook? I can't recall-- a Little Express penfriend in Vancouver recorded a bunch of stuff for me at once back in 1991, so I can't recall which tape it was... I have Andy Gibb's "Shadow Dancing" stuck in my head, but as "Shadow Boxing". Very bad either way. m.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991021000330.00997560@pophost.micron.net> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:03:30 -0600 From: Phil Corless <philco@micron.net> Subject: Woodentops I just picked up a couple of CDs from the late 80's by the band The Woodentops. I don't remember them ever being mentioned here, so I'll go ahead and do it. Their music can best be described as frenetic acousti-pop..... The two CDs they released are: "Giant" and "Wooden Footcops On The Highway"..... I highly recommend both of these, if you can find them. Anyone happen to know whatever happened to the Woodentops? Particularly the lead singer/songwriter Rollo McGinty? A real talent..... Phil Corless philco@micron.net Look at our current eBay Auctions! Hundreds of CDs, all through October: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/philkar/
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991021090447.24493.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 02:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: travis schulz <xtcisadarngoodband@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: XTC covers....Probably better for the Dukes I just have to join in on this great XTC covers thread-so much fun we have here on Chalkhills! I do an oldies radio program on the weekends, so I scanned the oldies catalogue I use to write the weekly playlist. As I'm sure you'll agree, XTC doing oldies should really be a Dukes reunion...1. The 59th Street Bridge Song(Feelin' Groovy)- Simon And Garfunkel (Scarborough Fair would be good too). 2. The Rain, Park and Other Things- The Cowsills. 3. Surf's Up- Beach Boys (an expensive track to buy on Ebay I might add). 4. You're Lost Litte Girl-The Doors. 5. Sunshine Superman-Donovan. 6. Marrakesh Express-Crosby, Stills and Nash(maybe a lost b-side from The Big Express?). 7. Playground In My Mind-Clint Holmes (it has the lyrics.."my name is Micheal and I've got a nickel", remember that one?) 8. Moondance-Van Morrison (and Todd Rundgren is back to capture the slick jazzy feel of "The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul"). 9. Octopus's Garden-The Beatles (marking the return of Terry, not only on drums, but on vocals..ha ha ha!) 10. Shapes of Things-The Yardbirds (a good one for Colin?). Honorable mentions...Spill The Wine by War (maybe not), Tighten Up by Archie Bell and the Drells ("ok Colin, Tighten Up on that bass"...) and Sugar Shack by Jimmie Glimmer and the Fireballs (and yes Barry is back for that one).
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