Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 109
Date: Thursday, 11 May 2000

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 109

                  Thursday, 11 May 2000

Topics:

                      Volume Control
                  an invitation (no xtc)
                      Over The Hedge
                       The Busboys
            XTC L.A. interview and other stuff
                      the other hand
                  ...sting like a Wasp!
                 My 2 cents on Wasp Star
                    Re: ENTIRE albums
                  fully listenable cd's
           Deep In The Heart Of Texas Power Pop
                 Wildly Unrelated Things
       Premiata Forneria Marconi / "Overflow" EP??
              I'll believe it when I see it
                    Skip Over This One
                       "lost" bands
                     Saturday Banana
                Strijbochu - I choose you!
              Re: Minimum Wage Rock and Roll
                Re: Lost (becomes a rant)

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: Volume Control
Message-ID: <200005110013.RAB02266@mail2.deltanet.com>

Before anyone else sends me a thoughtful note-

..In my radio interview post I mentioned that I ran outside everytime a WS
tune was played.  (I didn't want to hear any of them until I got my own
cd)..yada-yada...

Why didn't I just turn down the volume, like someone suggested?  The antenna
needed constant adjustment to keep the transmission from disintegrating,
hence the volume was up enough to be heard.

Satisfied, Mr. Smarty Pants?

o.k.

Debora Brown

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:45:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: an invitation (no xtc)
Message-ID: <200005110045.RAA10523@mail2.deltanet.com>

...To  THE 'Mr. Smarty pants', who tolerates my daily XTC messages... and
likes XTC's music... and even likes to peruse Mr. Relph's lovely site
(especially the archived digests)...

Come... join us, Tom!

Debora Brown  *

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:17:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: RSMko@webtv.net (Moore's Code)
Subject: Over The Hedge
Message-ID: <28693-391A1830-15530@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

Greetings Chalkboards!

XTBULLETIN!
Spotted a shocking XTC reference in this morning's (May 10) newspaper
comics! WOW!

The series is "Over the Hedge." www.hedgeweb.com

Not sure if it's nationally syndicated, so we've quickly created a
short, cheaply-scanned webpage to show it to ya. See the 2nd panel;
bottom right hand corner for the surprise. EIGHTIES!

http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/dilimo/xtchedge.html

Naturally, Wes Hanks will provide the ultimate pro-images soon... :-)
All we have is a camcorder. Took us an hour to build this shrine!

Hope it's clear enough. It's a fine how do ya do to read that on the bus
in the A.M.

Repondez vous toute de suite!

Yours in The Black Sea,
Krys O. and R. Stevie Moore

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:08:06 +0000
From: David Schneider <dnschneider@earthlink.net>
Subject: The Busboys
Message-ID: <B53F7095.14FF%dnschneider@earthlink.net>

> I believe The Busboys came on the L.A. club scene around 1980.  The major
> musical force/leader was Brian O'Neal.  Kinda unusual for the times, a black
> band that rocked (as opposed to rap, r&b, etc)... Didn't they do that song,
> "The Boys Are Back In Town"? ..and it's not the Thin Lizzy hit(I love Thin
> Lizzy!)  It was a rootsy rocker piece.  I seem to remember it was used in a
> popular film.  Anyone remember which film?

"48 Hours", I believe.

Dave

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:47:40 -0700
From: "John Keel" <jbkev1@ev1.net>
Subject: XTC L.A. interview and other stuff
Message-ID: <004101bfbaf3$47a247a0$1c525d3f@sony.com>

Hi kids!

So, I taped today's interview with Andy & Colin on Channel 103.1 in Los
Angeles, but like Jane, I'm not sure how to share it.  I started to
transcribe it, but it would take up loads of space.  Maybe I could send it
off-list to those who are interested?

If Andy is going to be on VH1's "The List" which they tape here in L.A., we
should try to go (those fans in the L.A. area).  I know that they give away
free tickets to the tapings at Universal Studios, but I'm not sure how else
to get them.  If anyone finds out, PLEASE e-mail me off-list at
johnkeel@cgvfx.com during the day.

Oh, before I forget - a big damn hello to Jan & Beverly.  Welcome to the
gang.

Let's see, what else?

Deborah, how could anyone forget X?  It's not like they were obscure to
start with.  Did anyone see any of the three recent shows at the House of
Blues?  Alas, I did not.

Oh, and John.  Thanks for bringing up "Dead Dog's Eyeball" by K. McCarty.
Great, great CD.  I saw her live on that tour in Seattle and it was such a
fun show.

As for my "lost" bands: Crack the Sky, Jennifer Trynin (which some of you
know from Dave Gregory's appearance on her first album "Cockamamie", but her
second one "Gun Shy Trigger Happy" is damn near perfection - one I can
listen to all the way through for a week at a time) and, lately, I've been
wanting to find my old Scruffy the Cat tape - which is long gone.  I loved
that first album.

Finally, anyone who doesn't see the perfection in "The Wheel and the
Maypole" closing :"WS" is just plain crazy.  And that's my final answer.

Thanks for listening!!

John

*********************************************
"The world is not my home, I'm just a-passin' through."
Tom Waits

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: the other hand
Message-ID: <20000511040544.21415.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>

re:
Now it looks as if someone needs to start a thread
about albums you can only
listen to one track on but you've inexplicably kept!
---
WEll, I sold most of those a couple of years ago when
I moved out of state. I used to work in a record
store, and amassed a huge cd collection. Sold all the
stuff I never listened to. I'd have to go through the
collection to see if I have any left with only one
good song. There have been cds I bought becaiuse I
liked one song. Al Green Explores Your Mind is a good
example for me. Bought it for 'Take Me to the River'.
I usually listen to just that song, too, but the whole
cd is pretty good.

Oh, I remembered another lost band: The Plastics. Sort
of the Japanese version of the B-532's. They put out
two albums in Japan in the early '80s. An American
album was made of reproduced tracks from those two
albums. It's not nearly as good as the originals. I'm
very lucky to have both Japanese records on CD, plus a
vinyl copy of the U.S. album. I'm pretty sure they're
all out of print now. but the two Japanese releases
(Origato Plastico nad Welcome Plastics) are highly
recommended.

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:25:06 CDT
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: ...sting like a Wasp!
Message-ID: <20000511042506.38800.qmail@hotmail.com>

         Will all of you who think Andy sounds like
   Stang! Please! Go back to the 'Stungsters' home page...

              ...and STAY there!

  I'm asking nicely. Please don't make me ask again.

                   Thank You.

   Now, Mr. Relph queried? What MUST I listen to, top to
    bottom,back and forth,then start over from the end?

         Dr.John's Gris Gris!  Cat# RR 4130-WZ

Yours in PVC,

                  }---:)

P.S. If you like the 'Hammersmith show' you will like the...
  ...Fab Four in Philly (XTC Black Sea Live at a Club in...)

      http://www.idrive.com/xtfab  (MP3s)

  Vee "XTC is GANGSTA! And some day I'll prove it to you" Tube.

                   OUT!

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:20:40 -0700
From: gino <gnave@sirius.com>
Subject: My 2 cents on Wasp Star
Message-ID: <391A4328.8BD50E88@sirius.com>

Hi all.  Delurking due to the new record.  After a week of digestion, here
are my faves in order:

1. ITMWML: Great classic Partsy song writing.  Could be a track from O&L.

2. We're All Light: Again, another Pop gem.  Nothing wrong here.

3. Standing in for Joe: I hum this song all day.  In a perfect world, this
would be the second single and it would crack the top ten.  One of
Collin's best.

4. The Wheel and the Maypole: The last GREAT song on the record IMHO.
Bouncy as a romp on a waterbed.

5.  Playground: Things go downhill from here.  The lyrics are a bit too
earnest and predictable for an XTC number.  ("Careful what you say
ground???")  Also, the guitar part is un-interesting AND repetitive.  The
background vocals save the song.

6.  My Brown Guitar: has one of the best intros ever-BLAM a wall of
vocals.  The verse is great, but the God Damned chorus has been
"de-Beatlized" from the demo version.  Hence you get Andy yelping, trying
not to be Fab, when we all know he IS Fab.

7.  Church of Women: The most challenging song on the record.  One of the
best moments is when he sings the "Gargoyles 'round their hearts" bit.
Sends chills.

8.  In Another Life: Pleasant.  If this song were better produced it would
be great.  Nice melody reminiscent of America's "Tin Man".

9.  Stupidly Happy: So common it hurts.  I am liking this song less and
less.

10.  You and the Clouds: It's been said here before which artist this
thing sounds like, so I won't mention Sting's name.

11.  Boarded Up: I hate this song, but I have a feeling I will like it a
year from now.

12.  Wounded Horse: What the fuck was he thinking?  Why didn't the
producer demand that this number be tossed in favor of "Ship Trapped in
the Ice"?  I hate to be rude and use vulgarity instead of intellect, but
this song is a piece of Shit.  Barely deserves the capital S.

All that said, it's a great record and I still love 'em.

-gino

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:55:55 +1000 (EST)
From: Mud Shark <mudshark1944@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: ENTIRE albums
Message-ID: <20000511055555.5206.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com>

When I posted thusly:

>>Here's a list of albums that I listen to in their
>>entirety (for what it's worth):

John <relph@cthulhu> replied:
>>Now what I'm interested in are albums that you
>>simply *must* listen to in their entirety. Not
>>albums that you *can*.

But that *was* a list of the albums I have to listen
to all the way through! If I posted all the albums I
*could* listen to without skipping anything, there'd
be no room for anyone else. Sorry it wasn't short
enough.

MS

=====
"I rail against God because I was told to stop eating paste in Sunday
school" - P.J.O'Rourke

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:02:30 -0700
From: "Kurt Heinen" <kurtisj@gte.net>
Subject: fully listenable cd's
Message-ID: <000e01bfbb0e$7f10b1c0$55d5113f@GTEkurtisj>

These are some of the CD's that I genuinely enjoy. A full listen is a
"must".

      ALLMAN BROTHERS THE FILLMORE CONCERTS  -  2 DISKS 1971

      BEATLES SGT. PEPPER,S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND 1967
      BLUE OYSTER CULT BLUE OYSTER CULT ( FIRST ONE ) 1972
      BOWIE, DAVID ZIGGY STARDUST 1972
      DEEP PURPLE MACHINE HEAD 1972
      DOORS MORRISON HOTEL 1970
      DYLAN, BOB BLOOD ON THE TRACKS 1974
      FAIRPORT CONVENTION FULL HOUSE 1970
      FLEETWOOD MAC FUTURE GAMES 1971
      FOGELBERG, DAN SOUVENIRS 1974
      HENDRIX, JIMI ARE YOU EXPERIENCED 1967
      JAYHAWKS TOMORROW THE GREEN GRASS 1995
      JETHRO TULL STAND UP 1969
      JOHN, ELTON TUMBLEWEED CONNECTION 1971
      KANSAS LEFTOVERTURE 1976
      KANTNER, SLICK BARON VON TOLLBOOTH & THE CHROME NUN 1973
      KINKS ARTHUR 1972
      KING CRIMSON IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING 1969
      LED ZEPPELIN ONE & THREE  1969 1971
      LIGHTFOOT, GORDON SUNDOWN 1974
      MANFRED MANN'S EARTH BAND SOLAR FIRE 1973
      MASON, DAVE ALONE TOGETHER 1970
      MAYALL, JOHN THE TURNING POINT 1969
      MELLENCAMP, JOHN BIG DADDY 1989
      MERCHANT, NATALIE TIGERLILY 1995
      MILLER, STEVE BAND YOUR SAVING GRACE 1969
      MITCHELL, JONI HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS 1975
      MORRISON, VAN MOONDANCE 1970
      MOUNTAIN NANTUCKET SLEIGHRIDE 1971
      MOVE MESSAGE FROM THE COUNTRY 1971
      PINK FLOYD DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 1973
      PRETENDERS PRETENDERS 1979
      PROCOL HARUM A SALTY DOG 1969
      ROLLING STONES LET IT BLEED 1969
      RUSSELL, LEON RUSSELL, LEON 1970
      SAVOY BROWN STREET CORNER TALKING 1971
      SPIRIT THE TWELVE DREAMS OF DR. SARDONICUS 1970
      STEELY DAN KATY LIED 1970
      STEVENS, CAT TEA FOR THE TILLERMAN 1970
      STONE TEMPLE PILOTS 12 GRACIOUS MELODIES 1994
      SWEET, MATTHEW 100% FUN 1995
      THOMPSON, RICHARD SHOOT OUT THE LIGHTS 1982
      TOY MATINEE TOY MATINEE 1990
      XTC ENGLISH SETTLEMENT 1982
      XTC APPLE VENUS 1999
      YES CLOSE TO THE EDGE 1972
      YOUNG, NEIL RAGGED GLORY 1990
      ZAPPA, FRANK WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY 1967
      TRAFFIC JOHN BARLEYCORN MUST DIE 1970
      SPRINGSTEEN, BRUCE DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN 1978

Thank's, I got a little carried away it seems.

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:44:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Douglas <ccosmos_64@yahoo.com>
Subject: Deep In The Heart Of Texas Power Pop
Message-ID: <20000511064427.21327.qmail@web3803.mail.yahoo.com>

Since we're on the subject of great albums, I would
like to give props to a couple of pop bands hailing
from Texas.

COTTON MATHER released an album called 'Kontiki' on
Copper Records that will delight any Chalkhillian.
Loaded with lo-fi charm and scrumptious melodic savvy,
'Kontiki' makes me think about what The Beatles might
have sounded like if they had recorded in Guided By
Voices' basement studio.  The songs 'My Before And
After' and 'Church Of Wilson' are worth the price of
admission alone.

PLUM is another awesome band, yielding a great
collection of songs in 'Trespassing.'  These guys have
felt the Swindonian influence of our favorite band,
and you'll feel it too, with listen upon listen of
this fantastic album.  Front man Steve McAllister
knows how to write great hooks. It's another indie
release.

As a wise man once declared, "'Nuff said."

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 03:12:27 EDT
From: Telehead@aol.com
Subject: Wildly Unrelated Things
Message-ID: <25.58283fe.264bb75b@aol.com>

Hello Chalksters!

  A couple of wildly unrelated things:

  First, I will be hosting an internet radio program beginning this Monday at
6pm Pacific Daylight Time. The program will be at http://www.saclive.com  .
To begin with, we will be playing unsigned artists from the greater
Sacramento Calif. region, many of which I think you folks will like (wait
'til you hear Deathray!). We are working on getting the proper licensing from
ASCAP and BMI; I'm told that should happen by mid-summer and at that time I
can begin playing XTC, Ben Folds Five, and others we have talked about. I
encourage your emails (privately please) at Telehead@aol.com and do let me
know what you think and what you like (or don't).
  I've really enjoyed the talk about the Bus Boys, a criminally underrated
band. "Minimum Wage Rock and Roll" is available on CD through Rattlesnake
Venom (I am NOT kidding) records; check the BusBoys web site www.busboys.com.
  Code Blue was not session guys; Dean Chamberlain was the original guitarist
with the Motels until his (reputedly) obnoxious behavior got him tossed. I
saw Code Blue open for Tonio K in 1979 and was very impressed; the band went
through numerous personnel changes before the record came out, and eventually
folded under the weight of Chamberlain's ego.
  Speaking of Tonio K, track down "Life in the Foodchain" on Gadfly. Tonio is
a running buddy of Sam Phillips and T-Bone Burnette, a brilliantly subversive
writer and a helluva nice guy. "Ole" (also on Gadfly) is a more recent record
that got lost in the shuffle when A&M went under and well worth checking out.

See ya,
Warren

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:34:49 +0200
From: "Giovanni Giusti" <giovanni@delizia.com>
Subject: Premiata Forneria Marconi / "Overflow" EP??
Message-ID: <001d01bfbb2c$27d3a480$a301a8c0@Satellite.iol.it>

In the last chalkohillo, graphomaniac Tom Kingston mentioned the "Premiata
Forneria Marconi" (or PFM), whose name has been properly translated as "The
Award-Winning Marconi Bakery".

Although not a big fan or connoisseur of them, I suppose my national
affinity entitles me to say:

Although they were only known abroad for a while, they had a very long and
continuing career in Italy, and they can be easily considered one of the
"big" acts of the 1970s and early 1980s here. They released a sh*tload of
albums that often reached the top of the charts.

Even today, CdNow has over 20 of their albums in stock, which is not bad at
all.

A comprehensive website is at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/6725/ .

--

XTC content: I just used a new Italian music mail-order site to buy Wasp
Star.

They also had on sale a 12" vinyl titled "Overflow", published on September
8th,1999 by Cooking Vinyl. Anyone have any idea what this is? I have bought
it anyway (it's only 9,700 lire, or about 4.75$), but I'm curious. You can
find it by going to http://www.cdflash.com and searching for - you guessed
it - "XTC".

The General and Major of Simpleton,

Giovanni

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 05:04:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com>
Subject: I'll believe it when I see it
Message-ID: <20000511120451.28048.qmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com>

Someone said that Andy will be on The List.  I'll
believe it when I see it.  I haven't seen him on Space
Ghost.  So can anybody tell me when did/or will he be
on Space Ghost.  I have a feeling I missed it, but I'm
not sure, since not many people have talked about it.

I watch The List more than Space Ghost, so I'll pay
more attention.

Molly

=====
Molly's Pages: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html
AIM Name: MFanton00

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:21:42 CDT
From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com>
Subject: Skip Over This One
Message-ID: <20000511122142.20467.qmail@hotmail.com>

I can't think of any albums I listen to without skipping tracks... maybe
David Bowie's "Hunky Dory", Momus' "The Philosophy of Momus" and "Circus
Maximus", and XTC's "Skylarking".

Wayne commented--
>Now it looks as if someone needs to start a thread about albums you
>can only listen to one track on but you've inexplicably kept!

now *this* I can comment on.  The Golden Palominos' "Drunk with Passion",
for the track with Michael Stipe, "Alive and Living Now"-- I got that song
stuck in my head over and over again for years, to the point that I finally
had to buy it when I found it used.

m.

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:09:58 CDT
From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com>
Subject: "lost" bands
Message-ID: <20000511120958.99943.qmail@hotmail.com>

okay, I so I like this thread.

I was thinking about another band that a friend taped for me back in 1991
called Moose - he recorded a song called "Suzanne" and one called "Last
Night I Fell Again".  I thought they were great, but I have never been able
to find anything by them in the US.  I was surprised when I saw some of
their cds when I was in England a couple years ago, although these tracks
were not on the ones that were available.  What ever happened to this band?

m.

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:52:29 +0100
From: Adrian Ransome <Adrian.Ransome@tsi-ltd.co.uk>
Subject: Saturday Banana
Message-ID: <497FEA72C392D3118AE700508B7311770D28CC@NT4SERVER03>

Having recently looked at the Eleven Different Animals book on Mark
Strijbos' excellent website, I felt I had to comment on the photo of the
band in the book that was taken whilst they were performing on the Saturday
Banana in Nov. 1980.

The Saturday Banana was a live tv show for children that ran on Saturday
Mornings, filling the yawning gap that was left by Tiswas. Brought to us by
the delightful Yorkshire Television, it suffered in comparison to ATV's
mighty flan-fest. Tiswas threw buckets of water over members of Status Quo
dressed as sunflowers; Saturday Banana boasted "Metal Mickey". Tiswas hurled
custard pies at Genesis,  Saturday Banana had squeaky twitcher Bill Oddie.
There was also some girl presenter who I shall come to later.

I remember clearly when XTC appeared on the Banana, Colin Moulding's stripy
blazer sticks in my mind even now. They mimed their way through Making Plans
for Nigel before an obviously impressed audience of about 20 children from
Leeds. Miming the fade-out in an uncomfortable fashion, the band came to a
halt. The girl presenter steps into shot;
GP: "Wow! That was great! Who wrote it?"
Gregory & Partridge point to Moulding.
GP: "So, that song was called Making Plans for Nigel."
CM: "Yes"
GP: "So who's Nigel?"
CM: "Nobody. I invented him for the song."
GP: "So you made him up?"
CM: "Yes, he doesn't exist."
GP: "Do you know anyone called Nigel?"
CM: "No, I just chose that name. I made him up."
Rest of the band start to snigger in the background
GP: "So he's not a real person then?"
CM: "No."
...2 seconds of uncomfortable silence that seem like a week....
GP: "Great!! XTC, everybody!! whooo!!"

Don't ask me why I can remember this, it has just stuck in my memory along
with Andy Partridge
saying something about "eating nude fish" on XTC at the Manor (which I
haven't seen since its transmission on BBC2).

Adrian "I should get out more" Ransome

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:10:02 +0100
From: Adrian Ransome <Adrian.Ransome@tsi-ltd.co.uk>
Subject: Strijbochu - I choose you!
Message-ID: <497FEA72C392D3118AE700508B7311770D28B9@NT4SERVER03>

In Chalkhills #6-105 Mark (long may his Lighthouse shine) Strijbos said

>> In Swindon, Wiltshire, two boys held another at knifepoint
>> on a railway footbridge, and stole #200 worth of Pokemon cards.

>Makes you wonder why this sort of trade is still legal, doesn't it?
These companies are relentlessly pushing our kids towards addiction
and criminal or anti-social behaviour.<

If you sat down & watched the Pokemon cartoon series or even played the game
you would see that the core values they try to promote are Teamwork,
Friendship and Working Hard to Achieve Your Goals. Any form of cheating (as
exemplified by the evil Team Rocket) is shown to be worthless and futile:
Team Rocket never EVER succeeds.

Nintendo have been very careful in the way they have designed the game and
I'm sure they're fully aware of the impact their product has on the
malleable minds of young children.

These acts of violence are carried out may suggest that Nintendo's message
isn't getting through, but when the seed you cast falls on stony ground, it
ain't gonna grow. And surely some of the blame can be laid at the door of
whoever it is that decides that certain Pokemon cards are worth 200 squids?

XTC content: I listened to the medium-wave-radio quality 30-second snippets
of Playground & Stupidly Happy on CD-NOW & now I'm REALLY itching to get
Wasp Star!

Adrian "Well aware that he's going to have the piss taken out of him for
standing up for a kiddie's computer game" Ransome

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 08:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: relph (John Relph)
Subject: Re: Minimum Wage Rock and Roll
Message-ID: <10005110838.ZM60642@mando.engr.sgi.com>

"Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> wrote:
>
>  The Busboys, on the other hand, I remember very fondly.
> I have their first album, Minimum Wage Rock and Roll, and
>saw them live once.

I never picked up the record although I looked at it in the LP bins
often enough.  I also saw them live once, opening for Gary Numan at
the Forum in Los Angeles.  The Busboys were quiet enjoyable, but were
completely overshadowed by the glory that was Numan.

Speaking of albums that I must play all the way through:

Gary Numan: Dance
New Musik: Warp

I'm sure there are others, but I'm not going to clog the list with my
list.

	-- John

NP: Matthew Sweet: In Reverse

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:05:34 -0400
From: "Brian" <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Lost (becomes a rant)
Message-ID: <009501bfbb73$822d4020$74e49cd1@Brian>

Tschalkgerz!

Ed K. writes:

> In 6-106, I was shocked when Debora wrote:
> "does anybody remember X?"
> My god, are they forgotten now too? I was never super-hugely into them,
> but they were a well-known, respected band, and the very idea that
> people wouldn't remember who they are just leaves me stunned. Have you
> experienced mentioning them only to have people say "who?" If so, that's
> truly a sad state of affairs. People on this list must at least have
> bumped into them while scanning record store "x" sections for
> you-know-who. It's almost as galling as the idea that people really are
> remembering the music of the 80s according to TV-advertised decade
> compilations featuring the likes of Glass Tiger or Huey Lewis (just to
> name two of the worst I could think of).

About X - I got into them from the review of their album 'Under The Big
Black Sun' in Rolling Stone Magazine (the same forum by which I disovered
XTC, with their review of 'English Settlement'), and I have come to
appreciate them. As for why they've been forgotten: it's our
chew-it-up-spit-it-out-and-demand-something-new-NOW culture that has
caused this... I'm not surprised... does anyone remember the sci-fi spoof
TV show 'Quark', with Richard Benjamin? Anyone? How many more examples can
I come up with? Tons... all of us could, likely.

>Radio sucks.<

You said it, brother.
I know that there is way too much music for radio stations to cover, but
there is alarmingly way too much of the ExTrad mentality among the
radio-listening masses, and Ed's right. There is way too friggin' much
music out there to where I shouldn't have to worry about hearing Sarah
McLachlan (sp?) once again ("I will dismember you..."), or Jewel, or Goo
Goo Dolls, and even too much of stuff I like (Dave Matthews Band). There's
one of these "alternative" radio stations here in the Tampa Bay area, and
I was into them at first because I'd hear Talking Heads and Depeche Mode
and The Cure with some frequency, but now it's the same damned songs by
THEM too, over and over and over... I got plenty sick of the radio before
MTV first came out (which at the time was a godsend for me), with Boston
being the epitome of what I hated about radio... not that I don't
appreciate them, but DAMN!  people! Enough is e-fucking-nough.
Even MTV sucks hugely now.

-Brian Matthews
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer

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