Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 41
Date: Sunday, 12 March 2000
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 41
Sunday, 12 March 2000
Today's Topics:
The Current State of " Rock "
av2 names
irrelevant trainspotting
Blue Vs. Green, 1x Vs.4+x
woe is me
Kevin Gilbert
Re: Orgonemania & Steely Dan
Re: Stop Press: new AV2 name
Aztec vs Mayan
XTC out West
Gettin' high in New Mexico
feets don't fail me now
not a david oh flame
can't think of a clever subject heading
re: wasp star, av2, whatever...
WASP *
Wasp Star Wars
insert mother
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH!!!!
av1 sighting
News on a new XTC cover band.
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:17:53 +0900 From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: The Current State of " Rock " Message-ID: <000601bf8af3$e65cf140$735791d2@johnboud> Greetings on a snowy Saturday morning in pastoral paradise Kumamoto Japan ... Would somebody please e-mail me off list and fill me in on the music " scene " in America these days ? What are young people listening to ? >From what I can gather from the kids here - who tend to mimic the Americans in just about every way - hip hop , r & b , house , reggae , soul ; what they call " black music " , is where it is at . I have seen several music magazines on the shelves in book stores with titles like " Black Music Journal " and " Black Scene " which are totally devoted to the aforementioned genres . Very curious ... nishimatsu-san wrote : > A background music of Japanese TV CM (Shock-bootsu Mono-gut->ari : skin care products made by Lion Co. sounds _so similar_ >to River of Orchid Yes , my daughter mentioned this to me . I have yet to hear it , but wouldn't be a bit surprised if it is a rip off of ROO . Bloody typical , actually . Back in the 60's and early 70's they had a genre of music over here called " group sounds " . The record companies manufactured goofy groups who sung current pop hits in the US in Japanese . The fans of course assumed the tunes were original . I doubt very much that the writers of these songs received any royalties from the big Japanese record companies either . Sushiman
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:00:26 EST From: Jdmack01@aol.com Subject: av2 names Message-ID: <8c.1a4fc26.25faf4aa@aol.com> In a message dated 03/10/2000 10:33:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, <owner-chalkhills@chalkhills.org> writes: << >Personally, I don't care if Andy and Colin decide to name >the album *Dog Vomit* - if the music is still delicious, I'll >"consume" it... A title like Dog Vomit would be better than Wasp Star... >> How about "Monkey Puss?" Or "10,000 Nuns and Orphans...Eaten By Rats?" With a name like that, it'd have to be good! J. D. P. S. to Todd B. - "Wes said >I know what it's like to be dead" Now THAT was funny!
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:47:47 -0800 From: "Jeannie" <venusnvy@earthlink.net> Subject: irrelevant trainspotting Message-ID: <200003110355.TAA19719@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Okay okay, I know that I am thus admitting guilt in actually watching this musically irrelevant, stupid show, but "Dear God" was actually mentioned as one of the top 'rebel songs of all time' on VH1's "The List." But, alas! It got beat out by a couple rap songs and Bob Marley for the top three spots. What else is new! --jeannie
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:23:37 CST
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: Blue Vs. Green, 1x Vs.4+x
Message-ID: <20000311042337.98049.qmail@hotmail.com>
Thank you! I bought a new PC last night and I'm gonna
try to convert a whole bunch of stuff to MP3,Up it to an
Idrive, or some other such site ,and give it all away!
The input you fine dirt dwellers have sent my way is way
liquid! Totally fluid! It trickles down my gills!
THANX!
I now ask all 'Hillers' to GIVE IT UP!!!!!!!!!
OK! Maybe your Skank don't Stank!
If if don't,KEEP IT!
But if it do...
Skank on mother F*ker!
TROUT!OUT!
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:03:09 -0800 From: "Victor Rocha" <wstsidela@mediaone.net> Subject: woe is me Message-ID: <00b801bf8b30$3d6ce120$ea548218@we.mediaone.net> Hey Chalksters, I have a dilemma. John Relph's web site has Some Lovely (My Brown Guitar) listed in the song tracks for "Wasp Star" . Mark Strijbos' web site has it omitted. is it or isn't it? Victor Rocha
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:56:32 -0800 From: "Aaron Pastula" <apastula@earthlink.net> Subject: Kevin Gilbert Message-ID: <002001bf8b40$15e8a840$5e87b3d1@oemcomputer> >First of all, glad to see all the talk about KG ... RIP, Kev. Yeah, his >cover of "Back in NYC" kicks, and those interested in hearing more >should hear the live version of "Lamb" (the album, not just the song) >that Kevin's band Giraffe did for ProgFest '94. Well done and lots of >fun. Yes yes yes. I haven't heard the studio version of "Back in NYC," but the live "Lamb" by Giraffe is incredible. I dare say that I like KG's version of "Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging" better than the original... For those who haven't heard Kevin's tunes, you're doing yourself a real disservice by not checking him out. It tears me up sometimes to think of the things he could have done... AP
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:56:42 -0800 (PST) From: relph (John Relph) Subject: Re: Orgonemania & Steely Dan Message-ID: <10003110756.ZM143094@mando.engr.sgi.com> "Ralph Simpson DeMarco" <sawpit@hotmail.com> wrote: >After the shooting, Burroughs went right to >the police, where it was determined to be an accident. > >Only heard a bit of new Steely Dan. Has anybody mentioned that the name "Steely Dan" was coined by William Burroughs in his book "Naked Lunch"? -- John
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:46:07 -0800 (PST) From: relph (John Relph) Subject: Re: Stop Press: new AV2 name Message-ID: <10003110746.ZM140000@mando.engr.sgi.com> "Simon Deane" <ginsim@netvigator.com> wrote: > >Judging from all the furore here, it would seem that the new name for AV2 is >going to be "Wasp Star". Not that anyone cares what I think but (before I >hurry on to something better) it strikes me that "xux ek" would be a much >more fun name. It's from the original Mayan according to Dominic and >"Chalkhills", and it sounds a damned sight less like some shite heavy metal >effort. Incidentally, how do you pronounce that? "Sucks egg"? Any Mayans >on this list? I'm not Mayan, but I believe X is usually pronounced as "sh". So "Xux Ek" would be "shoosh ache". One of my favorite stories from friends visiting the Yucutan is the one about the sign "XAOR", which appeared on the door to the shower. -- John P.S. Sounds like somebody needs to go to the dentist: "Xux Ek".
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:11:42 -0700 From: Phil Corless <philco@micron.net> Subject: Aztec vs Mayan Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000311091142.00a1c2a0@pophost.micron.net> I'd thought our friends down in Mexico would be writing in to correct everyone..... but I'll do it for them. The Aztec and Mayan civilizations were not the same thing. The Aztecs, or Mexica as they called themselves, dominated the area around what is presently Mexico City. Their capital city was Tenochtitlan, which was completely leveled by the gold-seeking bastard Cortes. The Spanish priests came along later to make sure the damage was permanent. The Mexica spoke Nahuatl. On the other hand, the Mayans dominated the Yucatan Peninsula and surrounding regions. Their "golden age" of pyramids and temples came long before the Mexica (Aztecs) were around. So, the two civilizations were separated by both time and distance. As far as I know, the two languages, Mayan and Nahuatl, are completely different. Now you know more than I do.
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 08:37:35 -0800 From: "Wes Hanks" <wes@iolvegas.com> Subject: XTC out West Message-ID: <000001bf8b78$359a3c20$30b59fce@default> Dog Vomit Purchasers, The latest issue of Uncut has yet another account of XTC on the road. This time their travelogue is from Texas westward during their 1980 US tour. After reading this, you will be amazed that they toured as long as they did. One of the gigs mentioned is for Houston's Rock Island. See evidence at: http://chalkhills.org/images/promo/Houston1980.jpg The sound system was so horrible that they cancelled that show and played instead at the Cowboy Club. The club manager upon hearing their reasons for cancelling, stated "But the Police played here". Prompting Terry to reply, "Just because the Police played every fucking chicken-coop in the west, doesn't mean we have to." The best anecdote is their reaction to the following at the Cowboy Club: 'Suddenly, the [PA] music's switched off, there's a drum roll and a rifle shot. Everyone on the dancefloor freezes, the men whipping off their hats and holding them over their hearts. The Texas flag is unfurled over the crowd and everyone starts singing "The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You". Evidently, its closing time. "Fuck me," says Chambers. "'Ave these people never heard of a cheerful 'Time, gentlemen, please'? Fuckin' gunfire and flags, what's that all about?" Another Terry Tale is when they reach LA they attended a party hosted by David Byrne. Terry was observed talking with Brian Eno. Terry was asked the next day what they were talking about. "I asked him if he had a bottle-opener", Terry says, "and I get a lecture on the history of the fuckin' world. After about three quarters of an hour, I had to ask him to speed things up a bit because we still hadn't got to the bit about the Earth cooling. "Ere", Chambers says then. "Pass us that beer while the bastard's still cold, will you?" Wes "Its never closing time here" Hanks
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:17:30 EST From: WESnLES@aol.com Subject: Gettin' high in New Mexico Message-ID: <66.1d751d0.25fbd9aa@aol.com> Ed Kedzierski wrote: Taking Burroughs' endorsement of orgone as a strike against it on account of his being a wife-killing junky seems besides the point; you don't read Burroughs to look for role models. Prompting Ralph Simpson DeMarco to write: OK, I know this may be besides the point but "wife-killing junky"? I suggest you read the amazing authorized biography by Ted Morgan called "Literary Outlaw". The night in Mexico when he accidentally killed her, he and some friends were all very high... Uhhhh...am I missing something Ralph? If he was very high when he "accidentally killed" his wife it appears that "wife-killing junky" may just be the shoe that fits. Christ, I'm sooooo high right now........hey honey, bring me that gun and an apple. Thanks....uhhhhh, I mean....sorry. wesLONG http://members.tripod.com/~The_Last_Balloon/index.html
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:23:23 -0600 From: RNV <rnv@mac.com> Subject: feets don't fail me now Message-ID: <38CA8F12.90F552D3@mac.com> >>>Anyways, no description of it being specifically a foot wart (or any REAL wart, for that matter).<<< Actually, if it's a synonym for plantar wart, it would have to be a foot wart, since "plantar" is from the Latin for sole of the foot. So it's not spelled "planter." God, I'm such a pedant. NV (third from left, holding eel)
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:20:40 -0600 From: RNV <rnv@mac.com> Subject: not a david oh flame Message-ID: <38CA8E6E.26D5A830@mac.com> >>>it strikes me that "xux ek" would be a much more fun name. Incidentally, how do you pronounce that? "Sucks egg"? Any Mayans on this list?<<< Funny you should ask. I'm not Mayan, but I play one on TV. Also, I've read Tintin's "Prisoners of the Sun" dozens of times. It *REALLY REALLY* is the Mayan name for Venus and it's pronounced SHOOSHEK. Read Charles Olson's "Mayan Letters" some time (New Directions, reprinted in U of Cal's "Collected Prose"). NV (his mark)
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: can't think of a clever subject heading Message-ID: <20000311193257.9844.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com> Kevin Diamond asks: Also, I just heard this recently, and was wondering if anyone here could verify. Someone told me the #1 best selling album ever was... the eagels' greatest hits? That seems really weird to me. Could this be true? --------------------- Don't seem weird to me. DOES seem like proof that most people have their musical taste located up their ass... Actually, I thint it's true. Recall reading it somewhere recently. For a while, the best selling album was the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack. That was usurped by Michael Jackson's Thriller, which held the top spot until last year, when the Eagles took over. Appearently, it sells very steadily as a back catalog item, and took 15 years or so to become the all time beat seller. Similar things have happenrd before. Wasn't Dark Side of the Moon on Billboard's top 100 chart for 10 years or something? Seems odd to me that a record that existed mainly as a soundrack to teenage pot parites in the '70's could chart for so long...
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:56:51 -0500 From: Danny Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> Subject: re: wasp star, av2, whatever... Message-ID: <38CA96F2.52B90518@schoollink.net> who the fuck CARES what the actual title is of the next xtc release?? it's a NEW XTC album, fer crissakes!! that's what matters!!!!!! get over it........jeeez! /dan "i would have made this instrumental, but the words got in the way." (andy partridge)
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:38:33 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: WASP * Message-ID: <20000311193833.23584.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com> Wasp Star- that sounds like a 70's glam rock/pop sort of title to me. Like it should be the title of an old lp by Sweet or something. Maybe they can toss off a cover of 'Love is Like Oxygen' or 'Little Willy' for a bonus single track.... Little Willy-sounds like a personal problem to me!
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:49:03 -0800 (PST) From: Susperia Five <susperia5@yahoo.com> Subject: Wasp Star Wars Message-ID: <20000311204903.1449.qmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> Hola Chalkies I must say I dig the name of the new album. It sounds vibrant and innovative, something that's always been synonymous with XTC. It also sounds like the title of a sci-fi movie. Who knows ~ maybe Andy and Colin will be in the next "I Am Sci Fi" short on the SciFi Channel, displaying their out of this world talents. ;-) Peace, Angelina ===== The value of anything is how much it hurts ~~ Shriekback
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 02:34:46 +0000 From: John Peacock <johndrewp@zoo.co.uk> Subject: insert mother Message-ID: <38CB0247.5F638F1@zoo.co.uk> Organization: The Nice Organization > John H. Hedges said: > > And don't forget, the Soft Boys (Hitchcock's band during the 70's) did an > album called "A Can of Bees," and there was also a song on his "Fegmania!" > LP called "Insert Mother." Being the pedant I am, I must point out that the song in questions is called Insect Mother (as i am sure you are aware). However, Insert Mother is also a very good name for a song. Do you think it's possible that when we are all experts on mayan cosmology, Andy will change the title again and we'll all have to go out and do more research into an even more obscure subject? John -- In the spirit of shameless self promotion, my songs may be found at: http://www.mp3.com/peacock "sell yourself, sell yourself, expect nothing" as a sage saith.
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 08:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Howorth <nik_h_1999@yahoo.com> Subject: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH!!!! Message-ID: <20000312160609.5869.qmail@web3203.mail.yahoo.com> Please shut up about the f***ing Orgone Accumulator or go to the bloody Hawkwind site!!! I thought this was supposed to be an XTC newsgroup not the f***ing egomaniac paranoid self-help group. Everyone can and will believe what they want Dunc (including so-called 'Scientists' - 'dark matter' what 'New Scientist' magazine called one of science's most exotic 'imaginings'- hey it's invisible, you can't see it or measure it - give me a f***ing break!) and nothing you say or do is gonna change that so shut the f*** up or I will be forced to taunt you a second time. 'We are what we pretend to be' - Kurt Vonnegut
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:14:18 -0600 From: "William Sherlock" <bdsherlock@earthlink.net> Subject: av1 sighting Message-ID: <4120003012231418110@earthlink.net> While looking for Discwasher fluid (found it, surprised that it still exists in this sterile CD era) I ran across Tweak.com a "High end audiophile" store. In their music section, listed first, is none other than XTC's Apple Venus Volume 1. I guess even stereo nerds like good music. Thanks to all who responded ( and e-mailed me) especially Smudgeboy (what's with the nom de internet?) with the explanation for "verrucca's with a drawing pin". And you're right Mr. Smith, I do kind of regret asking now. That reporter must have been truly desperate for the interview to have sat through that bit of minor surgery. It must have been a major piece of "buttlickery"! Right on, Dom Bill Sherlock ...swimming out alone against this tide. New Model Army
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:26:57 -0800
From: "Diamond" <arnos@nantucket.net>
Subject: News on a new XTC cover band.
Message-ID: <200003130029.TAA09153@nantucket.net>
Hey, all.
I just got wind that there's a new XTC cover band. It's an
all-female-vocal a cappella group based in The Vaticin, made entirely out of
Sisters and Mothers of the catholic church. Apparently, they're going to be
calling themselves Nun-such. Needless to say, they will NOT be covering Dear
God. More news as this unfolds.
Kevin "What's in a name besides words and spaces" Diamond
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/79/the_french_electric_all-st.html
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/84/bass-cleff.html
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/85/starving_artists.html
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"The universe does not have laws, it has habits, and habits can be broken."
-Tom Robbins
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