Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 73 Tuesday, 11 April 2000 Topics: Dead, Stones, Vai - very little XTC content Re: This shit is silly My last MP3 related post, I swear! this boy & harrison fleck sherwood Empathy attack Independent artists unite Why I am a Liberal Socialist Conservative. Your Wasp Star Previews Rutlemania We're all light Re: Spector did not save the "Get Back" sessions Science Books? burn these books Brian Wilson at the Roxy (Off topic) Re: A Spoiler's Guide Who says bitching don't work? reviews of things other than WS Re: independent artist Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.7b (John Relph <relph@tmbg.org>). I think my watch has bust and so is time.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:12:22 -0400 From: Michael Kearns <mikearns@voyager.net> Subject: Dead, Stones, Vai - very little XTC content Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000410151222.00797580@mail.en.com> Pancho Artecona writes: >"[Andy P.] learned a lot of licks from listening to the Grateful Dead because 'Jerry Garcia was slow and painful that I could sort of learn and play along with him. It was like Play along with Uncle Jerry'. Thank you for posting that. I never saw the Dead live and am not familiar with most of teir records. But I love the songwriting, vocals & playing on "Workingman's Dead" and "American Beauty". I think the Dead gets a bad rap because people like to snicker at 'those silly Deadheads'.. although I agree that, in general, extended rock and fusion improvisations tend to come off "wankish" (even in spite of whatever virtuosity may be there), much more so than say jazz and classical improv, the Dead's playing on these albums is song-oriented and tight in a bluegrassy kind of way. Their vocal harmonies often contain unusual (for rock) intervals that do not sound out-of-tune to me; I like music the way I like food, spicy. Now, I have been to little soirees where someone would be playing their lo-fi live Dead 'bootleg' tape, and thought what's the point? With that stuff some of the playing is good, some of it is sloppy and unfocussed. But this doesn't mean they sucked, or at least I can't write off the band (or their fans) on this basis, because some of their songs are among my all-time favorites. I remember reading a Guitar Player interview with Elvis Costello/Attractions bassist Bruce Thomas, who named Phil Lesh as a major influence, especially his melodic excursions where he would play these beautiful lines high up on the "thin ones". Who would dispute "Uncle Jerry's" claim that Bob Weir is one of the "hottest rhythm guitar players on wheels"? I realize my opinion of these band is based on little more than the three LP's of theirs in my collection, but I still play their songs when I'm strumming my guitar at a party. While I'm on an anti-slagging kick, I often mention Beatles, XTC and -- The Stones -- in the same breath when I bespeak my love for well-crafted arranging of two (or more) guitars. What was the Stones tour that was televised last year, Steel Wheels or Bridges to Babylon? anyway.. I thought the audio mix was pretty good, and was happy to hear Ron Wood and Keef slashing away, playing off each other. Of course I am familiar with a good part of their work but in my silly little record collection I only own "It's Only Rock Roll", but.. what can I say.. "I like it!" It's like, you can have this big-ass rock sound, surrounding these little funky guitar duets. Nostalgia alert: My first 45 single was "Fool to Cry" b/w "Hot Stuff". Regarding Steve Vai: my opinion is limited to a couple of early albums, a Daivd Lee Roth concert, and a small earful (which was enough for me) of some later stuff. Mostly I think he's a very expressive musician with scary chops and some of his licks are so bizarre I laugh out loud. I should give his later stuff another chance I suppose, having come across a Vai title on Dave Gregory's Top Twenty great guitar solos. Speaking of whom: I'm glad to hear about Greggsy's latest work! Thanks, Mark S., for the news. My W.I.M.P. list: Sly & Family Stone: GH Lutoslawski: Symphony #3 Phil Ochs: Chords of Fame "Another Side of Bob Dylan" Bowie: Scary Monsters Elvis Costello: My Aim is True Stevie Wonder: Talking Book The Beatles '65 ... and anxiously awaiting Wasp Star! Mike "Bass great, Lesh philling" Kearns "There is no sound quite as lovely as a guitar, save perhaps two." -- Chopin
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:03:51 -0400 From: "Brian" <mattone@bhip.infi.net> Subject: Re: This shit is silly Message-ID: <004f01bfa327$e56de5e0$1ee59cd1@Brian> Tschalkgerz! WesLONG wrote: >Okay, so Brian Matthews writes: >>I was also one of the ones who complained. Your above commentary notwithstanding, you've blown it for a few of us here, I'm sure..<< >WHAT? Okay...I've apologized for spillin' the beans about a very, very, very, very minor portion of the new XTC album. Christ, the lyrics have been printed out for quite a long time on the Chalkhills site for everyone to read.< Uh-huh... and I've made it a point not to go and have a look-see, see? >You make it sound as if I've ruined the listening experience for everyone.< I thought I typed it quite clear in the above-quoted line: "you've blown it for a FEW OF US here, I'm sure..." >I assure you that you will be able to listen to the entire disc twenty times over and still constantly find something new in it. A friend of mine emailed me about this silliness saying that he'd listened to the new album many times and hadn't even noticed the line that you're under the assumption is the cornerstone of the entire album. This shit is silly.< I made no assumption about what was the cornerstone of what - I merely chimed in and said I didn't care to have any fun little surprises that you deemed worthy to mention here ruined for me. >You don't know anything about the music, the arrangements, all of it will be a shining miracle to your ears, yet you're hanging your hat on 6 words that are actually not that noticeable.< And I'd like to keep it that way until I get to BUY (read: money for XTC) the disc and listen to it FOR MYSELF. >No one gets upset when someone dissects the WHOLE FEEL of a song, but everyone loses it when a few lyrics are written down. Strange, to me the song is more important than those six words. THIS JUST IN: Andy actually makes some other sounds on the disc too. I promise you all, by the time the last notes of Man Murdered Love spill out of your speakers, you will have forgotten what I wrote. If you're still simmering over it after the song has ended I suggest you up the dossage on your medication, or at least have your damn ears checked.< How did the line go in the 'Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy'? "Nobody likes a smart-ass." I take no medication, and have had my ears recently checked, thank you. All is well. Oh, and that's D-O-S-A-G-E. One damn 'S'. -BrianMATTHEWS
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:18 -0400 From: "Foster, Eric" <Eric.Foster@cwusa.com> Subject: My last MP3 related post, I swear! Message-ID: <3FD40150593CD2119D5200805FA7D9650497B587@us-cwi-exc-a07.cwi.cablew.com> Ya know, all this whining and complaining about Napster is completely childish and stupid. If those of you who keep complaining had any comprehension skills, it would be clear that 99% of the people who have enjoyed an early listen via MP3 and posted to the list, have also stated full intentions on buying at least one copy of AV2/WS. It is no different than a local radio station here in Houston, playing the new Steely Dan record a month before it was actually released. I bet the ones of you complaining, wouldn't find any problem with this. I could have very easily taped it, burned it, whatever...but instead, it merely ensured that I would purchase the record. Advance access to MP3s is no different. And just because some people may abuse this, is of no concern to me. I know that I will be purchasing the record, so damn the naysayers.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:04:13 PDT From: "jonathan monnickendam" <monnickj@hotmail.com> Subject: this boy & harrison fleck sherwood Message-ID: <20000410210413.37998.qmail@hotmail.com> i would say that 'this boy' is a rather less sophisticated song to surfer girl et al. Judging from the ed sullivan shows it was an excellent melodramatic moment in a highly charged show which sounds tame in the studio. jon
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:23:39 -0700 From: Ed Kedzierski <ed.kedzierski@blvdmedia.com> Subject: Empathy attack Message-ID: <08B5DDC2BABCD311BFC6005004A884B013B5B7@mgcservices.com> In 6-69, Benjamin Adams said: Look, what I dream of is how things used to be in the '80's. (Ha ha, but this is true.) I was younger, in high school and then college, and it was so much easier to hook up with a girl who shared your musical tastes. Now the venues for such a thing have pretty much vanished. I now have a pipedream of somehow stumbling onto my perfect semi-Gothic punk rock woman in her early '30's, but most of 'em have been snapped up the same way I snapped up my ex-wife. = ) Reading this was like reading an entry in the story of my own life (except that I've never actually been married; I've cohabited, but never done the ceremonial/legal thing). I totally feel for you here; you lose touch, your scene whithers away, everyone's gone, the only "alterna-women" around are way younger than I am (I turn 36 the week after next, and while I have friends my age who have no qualms about dating women in their early 20s, the idea just makes me feel like some kind of old creepy guy...), and you're right it really does seem like all the women in the right age group with good taste have been snapped up never to be seen again. I mean, I remember going out in the early days, and seeing people in their 30s who'd be in at least their mid to late 40s by now, so logically there should be people with compatible musical tastes across a wide age spectrum, but no... If I meet a woman in my age group, generation, whatever, half the time I get a generic classic rock fan (her: "oh ,you know, I like the greats: the Stones, the Who, Seger..." me:"Seger!!?? Are you serious? Do you know the Sesame Street song 'one of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong...' You don't even have taste in pedestrian classic rock?"[I don't actually say this]), or someone who thinks that their tastes are eclectic ("I even like some of that crazy alternative punky stuff - like U2 and Sting!"). And it's true that you don't need to have identical tastes, diversity adds spice, etc., but I've always had a better time with someone whose tastes were at least unique even if they weren't mine, i.e., she'd be more into greasy hard rockin' style "alternative" or something as opposed to my taste for the poppy cleverness brand of "alternative" (sorry, but there still isn't a more suitable term I can come up with), but at least we both had a passion for something that took a little effort to find, get into etc., and could respect one another for that. Well, I've just added my moping to yours rather than saying anything to particularly cheer you up, unless there's any consolation in not being the only person to feel this way... Good luck, fellow lonely hearts... Ed K.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:25:42 -0700 From: "Digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@earthlink.net> Subject: Independent artists unite Message-ID: <001401bfa333$53907960$0200a8c0@digitalpc> becki says: "as someone who released a cd independently (and spent a small fortune doing so), I can't help but take minor offense at this statement. it sounds as though you're saying it doesn't matter if one "steals" money from an independent artist" No no no! You got it all wrong. (enter run-in sentence here) I am saying as an inde artist, having to record (pay a ton of cash in the studio), call around a million pressing plants to do the manufacturing job, finding a good friend (or yourself) to design the jewel case insert (and J-card if doing tapes), spending money on getting the 4-color film that printers try to convince us costs about $500, and then after all that paying all the shipping and broker charges people like Diskmakers charges us (they are brokers for Rainbo, I know because I am a broker for them too!) and then having 10-20 boxes of unopened CD's in our closet or garage, we are use to being broke. shhhheeewwwwwwww.... Being an inde artist myself, I have spent well over $10,000 on projects, CD's, promotion, etc to barely get off the ground and do a few measly shows and sell a limited amount or merchandise. So I know what its like to be a broke independent artist. Mp3's HELP me as an inde artists. They help sell CD's and help me to promote. What I am saying, LOUD AND CLEAR, is this: XTC, regardless if they are on a "independent label" are not as independent as me and you are. They expect to make so much off each album, and if the money is not made, they may not be able to release another album and may go broke. After more than 20 years on major labels, they can't just go completely independent and still make the same money they have been. As an independent artist myself, I am use to music not making money off my music, so I love MP3's for ME and for all independent artists. I just don't thing major label artists can enjoy the benefits of MP3s as much as we can because of people who don't have the same respect for the music they listen to. As I said, I am 100% behind MP3 technology. I just don't know how this will effect the groups we have grown up listening too. So, I don't think its totally fair. When and if I am ever on a major label, I will probably think its even more unfair. I can look at things honestly and see how unfair it is to other people, and if you ask Andy and Collin, I am sure they are somewhat threatened by the technology. I really don't get your take on my statement anyway. Inde artists put MP3's up themselves. They chose to put their stuff up! Most major artists are not given the chance to chose. Some techie with an RCA cord, splitter and a soundblaster live makes that choice for them. Mp3's do not hurt inde artists, so I don't see how that is offensive, its true! When people trade a few tapes (or mp3's for that matter) its fine. But if I post Wasp Star (I don't have it yet!) and 500 people download it from some free site on geocities or something, then they put it up on 500 other websites, and so on, thousands of people have just got Wasp Star for free, which really puts a hurtin' on XTC. Hopefully I articulated my thoughts well. Digitalmaster
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:15:00 -0700 From: "Digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@earthlink.net> Subject: Why I am a Liberal Socialist Conservative. Message-ID: <001f01bfa33a$3723ffc0$0200a8c0@digitalpc> Well, actually I am neither. Liberals are just conservatives waiting to happen. Conservatives are nazi's and socialists, well at least the ones who claim to be are just middle class brats (I know these are big generalizations, I am just kidding though, well, sort of. Anyway, I am probably more liberal then anything, but I don't consider myself part of any particular party. Most of my life I considered myself democrat or liberal, and even communist for a short time. Though, the best way to be in my opinion is objective (hey, lets start our own party, the objective party!) What's my point with all this. Well, I like the governments involvement in certain things. I like the fact that they offer welfare for people who have no money (though I still don't think the system is as good as it should be!) I like the fact that they pass national laws to protect children, human and animal rights. I like when they protect our rights and the environment. HOWEVER, I DO NOT LIKE THEM STICKING THEIR BUSINESS IN MY COMPUTER OR MY PERSONAL LIFE! My only problem with bootlegging, whether on VHS, Cassette, CDR or MP3's is that the government, or big businesses always gets involved when they lose money. I don't want to have to hear an FBI warning on the beginning of all my CD's, do you? Even though some of us are honest traders, or even sellers for that matter, we don't do stuff in mass quantities. That is the only threat of MP3's is that it can be done in mass quantities. I could put an MP3 on a free site right now and 5000 people can download it by the end of the night (depending on server stability and bandwidth of course). By all this illegal stuff, the RIAA and the government will come in and start making laws which will govern the technology like they have already did with new MP3 hardware. So, would you agree that we as netcitizens should govern ourselves? Maybe report people who illegal put up Wasp Star and other stuff? I don't know a solution, I am not Mr. Solution guy and this is not a Saturday Night Live Skit from 1991. I am just Mr. Opinion guy, who has an opinion that MP3's are good for independent artists though are POSSIBLY bad for major artists. I never felt strongly against MP3's or Napster. Actually, the only time I have wondered about things was when I heard that Wasp Star was on Napster. I just do not think that is right considering how much respect I have for Andy and Collin as working musicians. Sure, I want to hear the album right now. Even though I know I will buy a bunch of copies of it I still do not want to download it because it will lessen the excitement. Isn't it fun to wait for Part 2 of X-files? Isn't it fun opening an album for the first time having never heard the songs before? I like that experience. I wont live forever, and while I am alive, I want to experience excitement as much as possible and anticipation is the best excitement for me. If all of us went on Napster to download the album right now (if it is there) then none of us will have anything to say about it when it comes out, other than how cool the cover looks. Really, this has nothing to do with my original post, but these are random thoughts I am having so I have to let them out! It's ok to download bootlegs of shows, rare stuff and even demo's. However, I am not so sure of downloading new stuff. For everyone who downloads Wasp Star and then gives it to a few of their friends, they take money away from XTC, period! Whether we will admit that or not, its true. When I was a teen and taped stuff for friends, some of them would go out and buy the original. However, I remember some of them later coming to me and saying (I gave the tape to my girlfriend, can I have another copy). So, that means that I spent $12 (well, in the 80's tapes were about $7.99) and now 2 other people at least got it for free. Imagine how much XTC has lost... As I stated, lets trade bootlegs, rare stuff and live stuff. I am in no way against MP3's. I have over 20 Gigs of MP3's on my computer. But every MP3 I have is either currently unavailable or I own, or at least paid for the original. For example, I recently traded something for a bootleg of Hayzi Fantasi. Well, the same album was just re-released and as soon as I found out, I bought it. I just prefer to support the musicians I like. However, when it comes to software and stuff. ummm, I don't know what my position is there, unless of course its a small company with reasonable prices. Hey, your still here? Stop reading this and move on. I am surprised John even put this long message on the list!
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> Subject: Your Wasp Star Previews Message-ID: <200004102244.PAA07436@mail2.deltanet.com> Hola to everyone! I'm enjoying reading all of your 'first impressions' of the new album...kinda like pouring over the travel brochures before you go on vacation....I can't wait to sink my toes into the pink sand beaches of 'Wasp Star'. Keep them coming, please! Back to the snakepit, Debora Brown
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:10:34 -0400 From: "O'Donnell, Patrick" <PJOdonnell@SWIDLAW.com> Subject: Rutlemania Message-ID: <C399F333F1ADD111BD6400805F9F8CD00341B149@sbexm01.swidber.com> Somebody wondered who Ollie Halsell was -- He also stated that he was heavily influenced by the guitar player called Ollie Howsell from a band called PATTO 'I never heard a guitar as inventive as that, the songs aren't great but the guitar playing stands on its own'. If anyone has access to this band, please contact me, I'd be curious to hear this Ollie dude. I don't know about "PATTO", but Halsell was the unseen "fourth" member of the Pre-Fab Four, the incredible Rutles.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:15:38 -0500 From: maggie jungwirth <mmjungwi@facstaff.wisc.edu> Subject: We're all light Message-ID: <v04003a00b518197aa1dc@[144.92.180.106]> Chalksters, I subscribe to this list to get info and opinions about XTC. I am demoless and MP3less. I am interested in peoples previews/reviews of WS/AV2 I practically _trembled_ when I read the lyrics on Chalkhills- that was the biggest "givaway" to me. But no amount of description is going to replace the sheer thrill and delight I will feel when I hear it for the first time..... :-) under mats of flower lava **************** *********** maggie
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:27:39 -0700 From: "Benjamin Adams" <jazzbutchr@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Spector did not save the "Get Back" sessions Message-ID: <LPBBKGDMNFFEGHNBHCGHOEOECBAA.jazzbutchr@worldnet.att.net> <<From: "Franz Fuchs" <f.fuchs@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Spector did not "save" the "Get Back" sessions Message-ID: <001201bfa219$685bec00$41e246c3@franzfuc> "Benjamin Adams" <jazzbutchr@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >The "Martin mix" of the GET BACK album has been available for years in a >pristine CD bootleg, and one listen shows that it would have been a >perfectly valid version of the material for relase. I thought that it was engineer Glyn Johns who mixed "Let It Be". Or are there actually *three* versions (Spector/Martin/Johns) ? --- Quote snipped>> ****************************** Which is why I had "Martin Mix" in quotes. Believe me, if the GET BACK album had been released, it would have borne a George Martin production credit, although Johns did the majority of the work. And, again, my ultimate point is that Spector didn't save the sessions. = ) Now, how would a "Wall-of-Sound" XTC album sit with people? Heh!
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:02:49 -0400 From: "Diamond" <arnos@nantucket.net> Subject: Science Books? Message-ID: <200004110005.UAA10475@nantucket.net> I'm not entirely sure how the rumour got started that I was looking for a science book... but thanks anyways. I have read my share of Science Books... most of the science fiction, but it's close enough... right? Vonnegut's Slaughter House 5 counts as science. Personally, I think you're taking the qoute by Tom Robbins a little too literally. I personally chose this quote A0 because I think it has a certain poetic quality to it that I like and B) cause I interpret it to meen that nothing is set in stone, and that our life can be whatever the fuck we make it. It's actually a quote that's helped me through some tuff times sometimes, so I enjoy it. BUT, you have reminded me that I've had this quote on here to long, so I feel it's time to change up. Kevin "The Universe does not have laws, it has habits, and habits can be broken." Diamond http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/79/the_french_electric_all-st.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/84/bass-cleff.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/85/starving_artists.html -- "No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful" -John Linnell of They Might Be Giants Better, boys?
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:35:18 -0400 From: David Oh <davidoh@passport.ca> Subject: burn these books Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20000410213518.00866100@pop3.passport.ca> read these books in the last year: revolution in the head: the beatles records and the sixties (again). by ian macdonald the beatles: an oral history. by david pritchard and alan lysaght a cellarful of noise. by brian epstein the penguin john lennon (again. contains ""john lennon in his own write" and "a spaniard in the works"). by john lennon xtc song stories (again). by xtc and neville farmer the real frank zappa book (again). by frank zappa and peter occhiogrosso frank zappa's negative dialetics of poodle play (again). by ben watson crossroads: the life and music of eric clapton. by michael schumacher moon: the life and death of a rock legend. by tony fletcher before i get old: the story of the who (read together with "moon"). by dave marsh the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (again). by douglas adams to the limit: the untold story of the eagles. by marc eliott somebody to love? by grace slick, with andrea cagan the nearest faraway place: brian wilson, the beach boys and the southern california experience. by timothy white 20th century rock & roll: alternative rock. by alan cross numerous magazine and newspaper articles. peace & xtc, davidoh
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:10:55 -0700 From: "Mark Cuevas" <denizen@mindspring.com> Subject: Brian Wilson at the Roxy (Off topic) Message-ID: <004201bfa374$522bcfc0$fada56d1@default> Chalkophiles: I am ecstatic to report that Brian Wilson was absolutely terrific! His band was superb (mostly Wondermints folks, but not all). I never thought I'd see him play the Sunset strip in my lifetime. I'm a happy puppy. Best of all, Brian seemed happy. He really responded to the crowd approval. Now if our boys would just do a brief gig on their visit here . . .
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:30:15 +1000 (EST) From: Mud Shark <mudshark1944@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Re: A Spoiler's Guide Message-ID: <20000411043015.11234.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> >>From : havingastab@euthanasia.co.uk >>Subject : A Spoiler's Guide To "Wasp Star" I want to say at this point that this post of Dom's was easily the funniest thing I've read here this year. Even though I haven't heard the album or the demo versions yet, I'm glad I didn't scroll down. Now I'm *really* looking forward to the album (hidden "Sussudio" track and all!). MS ===== "I rail against God because I was told to stop eating paste in Sunday school" - P.J.O'Rourke
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:01:41 -0700 From: "Digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@earthlink.net> Subject: Who says bitching don't work? Message-ID: <003e01bfa36a$a56e66c0$0200a8c0@digitalpc> This is in response to the following: "Folks- We are updating Tvtrecords.com today to include information about Wasp Star's in-store date and Andy and Colin's promo trip to the U.S. As of yet we have not confirmed any TV appearances. Most of the major programs require live performance from the artist. We are hopeful for several appearances where Andy and Colin are not required to perform. These appearances would likely air in June. Stay tuned for more and thank you for your support." MY RESPONSE: Who says bitching does not work?! I only wish they responded to the letter that I sent them personally.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:17:37 CDT From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com> Subject: reviews of things other than WS Message-ID: <20000411041737.6227.qmail@hotmail.com> Christopher R. Coolidge says yes to Jim Carroll-- > Suffice to say that any temptations I may have had to do heroin were >killed the first time I read The Basketball Diaries. Read it through once >and you'll never want to touch it if you never have. I can almost guarantee >it. Good book. Run for your life from that goddamned movie, though. I read the book my freshman year of college, and just after I finished it the movie came to the University theatre. It was the only movie I've ever walked out on, and this was back when I liked Leonardo DiCaprio. (I was eighteen, and it was pre-"Titanic".) Very poorly done, I thought. Dom spoils-- >Subject: A Spoiler's Guide To "Wasp Star" >So, here is a comprehensive list of all >the things which UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES may be revealed to all and, to >a lesser extent, sundry...I'm only posting this because I know no one >reads my posts anymore (well, that was all sooooo last year wasn't >it?)...just don't pass these details on to any of the poor sods who >can't get hold of a pre-release copy....snigger. You're insane. I think I love you. XTC content: I would love to here "Didn't Hurt a Bit" on an album. m.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Douglas <ccosmos_64@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: independent artist Message-ID: <20000411034727.21205.qmail@web3807.mail.yahoo.com> > From: ziglain@cruzio.com (becki digregorio) > Subject: an indie artist speaks up I'll have to back up Becki on this one...to a point. Being an independent artist myself (I'm in a power-pop band called Einstein's Sister, with 3 independent releases and an unpleasant experience translated onto compact disc - but that's another story!), Napster scares me because of the potential lost unit sales. But, at the same time, it does allow people to become exposed to new and different material that radio blatently ignores. So where's the middle ground to be found? Personally, I think we are in a pioneering period with this new, dangerously exciting technology, and regulation will inevitably come. Until then, all us indie artists will have to deal with Napster. To all those Napsterphiles, I say (or rather, quote a certain Cricket), 'Let your conscience be your guide.' Like another Chalkhills subscriber, I think it's FAR worse to put a 'Wasp Star' promo up on E-Bay than to put stuff on Napster. Is it about the music or the commerce, folks? For the record, I've heard 'Wasp Star,' and those who haven't heard it are in for a real treat - I actually envy you the experience you will have on Tuesday, May 23rd. Suffice to say I will be in line with you on that day of days. Thank you and good night.
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