Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 75
Date: Wednesday, 12 April 2000

          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 75

                 Wednesday, 12 April 2000

Topics:

                    wasp star preview
               various scattered reactions
                     Dom, Dom Dom Dom
              I can't own her..........yet!
                     Re: Vai bother?
                   The Disssssappointed
 It's breeding in your short and curlies, ready to expand
                  Stifle yourself, Edith
                       Wasp Telstar
                  Rebel without applause
                          Books?
                    An Urgent Reminder
                 The Spirit of Compromise
                  In Defence of Spoilers
                  Eric Clapzzzzzzzzzzzz
                        LPs to CD
                    napster, xtc, etc.
               another Wasp Star review...

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:56:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: wasp star preview
Message-ID: <20000411225657.536.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com>

As I was driving in to school today ( I teach a class)
I was listing to Chicago Q101fm's lunchtime oldies
program (all '80's music, and a surprising amount of
crap). Well, they announced the upcomoing release of
Wasp Star, and mentioned that you could download 'The
Man Who Murdered Love' from their website. I tried,
but couldent get it to work. I'll try again tonight
after I get home. If you want to try, here's the URL:
http://stage.q101.com/new/control/plain2b.htm

By the way, it's my birthday!

Tyler "waiting for the Ivor Cutler remix of We're All
Light" Hewitt

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:14:02 -0500
From: RN van Vliet <rnv@mac.com>
Subject: various scattered reactions
Message-ID: <38F3CDD9.A8DB8D94@mac.com>

Doing my part to clutter the Chalkhills . . .

> >7.Down A Peg
> >8.Living In A Haunted Heart
>
> Weren't these two songs already released as b-sides on some orange and
> leamons singles?

This just in from somewhere deep in the Chalkhills archives:

Living in a Haunted Heart (Partridge)
Demo version, 3'58. Released in January 1989 as a B-side to the Mayor of
Simpleton CD and 12'' singles in the U.K. (along with the demo of "The
Good Things" and the eerily accurate cover of Beefheart's "Ella Guru").

Down a Peg (Moulding)
Demo version, 2'32. Released in May 1992 on the The Ballad of Peter
Pumpkinhead CD single in the U.K.

 -------------------------------
> All:
>
> I predict that "Wasp Star" will become the biggest
> selling album for XTC to date.
>
> Al

What IS the biggest selling XTC album to date? I suppose it would differ
from UK to US to Japan, etc. Anyone have an idea?

 -------------------------------
First Carl, then Joe said:

>>  My own Personal 'Wasp Star':
>>
>> 1.Prince Of Orange
>> 2.Blue Beret
>> 3.Rocket
>> 4.It's Snowing Angels
>> 5.Gangway Electric Guitars
>> 6.Ship Trapped In Ice
>> 7.Down A Peg
>> 8.Living In A Haunted Heart
>> 9.When We Get To England
>> 10.My Train Is Coming
>> 11.
>> 12.Disque Bleu
>
> # 11 could be "Everything" from "Bull"---

And strictly speaking, "It's Snowing Angels" is a Dukes song, when they
were masquerading as Choc Cigar Chief Champion, so I'd respectfully
submit "Dame Fortune" as a stand-in.

And I'd maybe drop "Disque Bleu" in favor of "Young Cleopatra," which I
think of as the "Three Minute Lolita" except where no one dies at the
end. Of course, Carl left #11 open as a sort of Seige Perilous for any
undiscovered Colin demos. I don't know if this would count, but I've
always been sort of sorry that "Find the Fox" never moved closer to the
limelight (ouch sorry) than the Meeting Place 12". Speaking of which,
I'd throw "Terrorism" on there, too, instead of "Gangway" (mostly
because I don't know that one as well). And, to bring the count up to 14
(in deferencre to the LP and cassette releases, giving sides 1 & 2 seven
songs each) why not include "The Troubles" as well?

And, ever the busybody, I'd shuffle it a bit, resulting in:

Blue Beret
Dame Fortune
Find the Fox
Rocket
Terrorism
Ship Trapped In Ice
The Troubles

My Train Is Coming
When We Get To England
Living In A Haunted Heart
Young Cleopatra
Down A Peg
Prince Of Orange
Everything

- - - -
That's all for now

--rnv

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:41:06 EDT
From: WESnLES@aol.com
Subject: Dom, Dom Dom Dom
Message-ID: <62.25e4474.26252022@aol.com>

HELP, I'M BEING OPPRESSED, CENSORED, MY VIEWS ARE BEING SNUFFED OUT BY
THE MAN!!!

Sufferin' Christ Dom, not you too?

wesLONG
http://members.tripod.com/~The_Last_Balloon/index.html

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:11:57 -1000
From: "Jim Smart" <jismart@ksbe.edu>
Subject: I can't own her..........yet!
Message-ID: <38F3CD5B.6825C14F@ksbe.edu>
Organization: 3Tripper

OK, to put my money where my mouth is, I just pre-ordered 4 copies of
Wasp Star at amazon.com:

$51.96

Shipping & Handling:

$5.96

Total:

$57.92

One for each guy in my band (counting me, of course) and another for
the mailman, or whoever I'm feeling particularly pleasant toward at
that far distant time. Hopefully a nickel or two will find its way
into the pockets of Andy and Colin, as well.

Jim

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:07:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Relph <relph@cthulhu>
Subject: Re: Vai bother?
Message-ID: <200004120207.TAA41317@mando.engr.sgi.com>

Ed Kedzierski wrote:
>
>a technique-wanker like Vai or Satriani
>(deedly-deedly waaahh, endlessly and uninterestingly unless you happen to be
>a virtuosity-obsessed guitar freak yourself). I had a friend at work a while
<snip>
> I remember him putting on a Vai album one time and being
>surprised when I said that I'd rather have a root canal than sit through it.
>I don't know, I just don't see how it's interesting or enjoyable, unless
>you're a guitarist using it as a training tool or something...

Vai is wildly variable in quality.  Satriani is better, quality-wise,
but less inventive overall.  But I prefer Satriani records because
they're easier to listen to.  Personally, I would highly recommend that
everybody run out and buy a copy of Vai's "Flex-Able Leftovers" CD.  It
contains the songs from his extremely limited edition 10-incher plus a
batch of others that fit in with the concept.  Vai can write some very
funny lyrics sometimes, and his guitar playing is also pretty cool.
Sometimes.  Sometimes it's boring, repetitive, and repetitive.  Did I
mention repetitive?  But sometimes it's jaw-droppingly beautiful and
unbelievable.  Vai drives my wife up the wall.  Along with Frank Zappa,
Foetus, and most L.A. punk bands like ALL, The Descendents and Black
Flag.  Satriani is okay, maybe because Satch doesn't sing much (and has
an wimpy and generic voice when he does).

But anyway, Ed, since you mentioned "technique-wanker" I just had to
throw the Vai on the player again...

WIMP?
Steve Vai: The Ultra Zone
The Verve Pipe: The Verve Pipe
Komeda: The Genius of Komeda
Andy Partridge: The '97 Demos
Matthew Sweet: In Reverse

Obligatory XTC reference: My wife commented that "Wounded Horse" is an
extremely "raw and sexual song".  I was playing the demo (as I don't have
Wasp Star yet).

	-- John

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:16:48 EDT
From: WESnLES@aol.com
Subject: The Disssssappointed
Message-ID: <2.25a22b6.26253690@aol.com>

OPEN LETTER TO BRIAN MATTHEWSS:
or sshould I ssimply refer to you ass Mr. Sspell?
(uh oh, lookss like thiss could get nassty)

It'ss one thing to take exception with my opinion, it'ss quite another to
make fun of my sspelling!  I can't help that my ss key sstickss, give me a
break.  Damn it Jim, I'm a writer, not sspeller!  Sspellerss are a dime a
damn dozen!!! Actually, there'ss nothing wrong with my ss key, it'ss jusst
that I wrote that email when I wass full to the brim, overflowing, with
Hacker Pschorr. (I refuse to ssully the name of thiss wonderful brew by
adding an extra ss to Pschorr)  Sso you can kissss my assss!

(Inside joke for Brian:  DISSC GOLF)

Okay...I screwed up didn't I?  I did the one thing that's apparently taboo
on this list, I talked about XTC!  How dare I?  This isn't an XTC chat
list, it's a, HMMMMM, wait a damn minute, IT IS, ITS IS AN XTC CHAT LIST!
But you know what, it isn't much of one is it?  I mean, how often do we
actually get the opportunity to dish out info on the one item this litter
of pups sees eye to crusty eye on?  OH, true, the opportunity is always
there, but we seldom grab the bull by it's golden guts.  I understand that
there are a few folks that don't want to hear a damn word about the new
album.  I try to put myself in their places.  "Wes," I ask myself, "since
you don't have a promo copy of WASP STAR, how do you feel about the lucky
few posting info about the disc to the Chalklist?"  Of course it may be
"easy for me to say this" but I wouldn't have a problem with it.  Uh,
actually, I think my emotions regarding this subject would be the polar
opposite of folks like Mr. Spell, I'd actually ENJOY reading ANY info on
the album.  You must realize that I've had a copy of the demos for the last
three albums at least a year in advance of the recording of said albums.
I'm an XTCGEEK of the highest order.  Believe me folks, the audio is out
there, I've got it.  If you want it badly enough it can be had, I'm proof.
If you are the opposite of me (the anti-wes), and want to keep the album as
much a surprise as possible, then perhaps it isn't wise to plop your asses
down every day in front of the computer to read the latest info on a list
that's devoted to XTC.

ONE LAST RANT:

The reason I have a promo copy is because I help promote the band.  You do
realize that don't you?  TVT mails me XTC albums ahead of the release date
so that I can express my opinion about them.  My job in this chain is to
spread the word about the album to as many folks as possible.  I do so in
the form of a magazine and some online sites, both are in PRINT.  So I
can't help but feel that TVT wouldn't be upset about me posting a very
brief review of the album to the one place that actually gives a shit about
it.  Hell, TVT posts info here themselves.  My blurb was a high spirited
YIPPEE IT'S HERE!  It was an attempt to excite, not incite, the precious
few freaks that care about this wonderful band.

I've received about a dozen positive offline emails, thank you all, and not a
single negative one regarding this topic.  It was in my mouth, and the
chamber had a bullet in it, but thanks to your kind words I didn't pull the
trigger. (stupid smiley face)

wessLONG
http://members.tripod.com/~The_Last_Balloon/index.html

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:13:07 -0400
From: "Todd and Jennifer Bernhardt" <toddjenn@erols.com>
Subject: It's breeding in your short and curlies, ready to expand
Message-ID: <NABBKDAOLCDJBNEFDNLLIEBLCCAA.toddjenn@erols.com>

Hi:

davidoh...
> read these books in the last year:
>
> revolution in the head: the beatles records and the sixties
> (again). by ian macdonald
> the beatles: an oral history. by david pritchard and alan lysaght
> a cellarful of noise. by brian epstein
> the penguin john lennon (again. contains ""john lennon in his own write"
> and "a spaniard in the works"). by john lennon
> xtc song stories (again). by xtc and neville farmer
> the real frank zappa book (again). by frank zappa and peter occhiogrosso
> frank zappa's negative dialetics of poodle play (again). by ben watson
> crossroads: the life and music of eric clapton. by michael schumacher
> moon: the life and death of a rock legend. by tony fletcher
> before i get old: the story of the who (read together with
> "moon"). by dave marsh
> the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (again). by douglas adams
> to the limit: the untold story of the eagles. by marc eliott
> somebody to love? by grace slick, with andrea cagan
> the nearest faraway place: brian wilson, the beach boys and the southern
> california experience. by timothy white
> 20th century rock & roll: alternative rock. by alan cross
> numerous magazine and newspaper articles.

Wonderful! Figured I'd post it (again) for anyone who didn't soak it all in
the first time (not that there's anything wrong with that).

BTW, it seems you have a kindred spirit in the U.S. of A. -- check out:
http://www.theonion.com/onion3612/books_about_tv.html (once)

-Todd

Stale pulp culture take it away
New pulp culture serve to redefine it
Old pulp culture day upon day
Young pulp culture help to undermine it
Sham pulp culture buried in time
True pulp culture there to be plundered
Same pulp culture year upon year
Hey! pulp culture live to be a hundred...
-T. Dolby

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: RSMko@webtv.net (Moore's Code)
Subject: Stifle yourself, Edith
Message-ID: <8953-38F3F6C7-8230@storefull-257.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

From: "Todd Bernhardt" <todd.bernhardt@enterworks.com>
Subject: Q&A

_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

This guy wrote:

Hi:
R. Stevie, what's your Wasp Star agenda here? You're starting to sound a
bit too strident, my friend. If you don't like the album, fine, but
what's with the witch hunt?

>>Yeah, you said it. I stand accused.
Expert-texpert......

Thanks for the incisive advice, kid. Your serve.<<

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:17:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: RSMko@webtv.net (Moore's Code)
Subject: Wasp Telstar
Message-ID: <8953-38F3F8DB-8246@storefull-257.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

LONDON (Reuters) - Heinz Burt, bass guitarist with Britain's Tornados
when they scored an historic transatlantic number one with
``Telstar=B4=B4 in 1962, has died at the age of 57.

The Tornados were widely credited by the music industry as the first
British pop group to make it to the top of the U.S. charts -- just a
year before Britain's Merseybeat sound swept the air waves of the world.

``People talk about the Beatles being the first British group to get to
number one in America but they weren=B4t -- we were,=B4=B4 Heinz once
said.

The Tornados' instrumental tune, a smash hit in many other countries
around the world, was inspired by the Telstar satellite which pushed
back the barriers of space by beaming pictures across the Atlantic.
Heinz left the Tornados to become a solo singer, hitting the British top
five with the Eddie Cochran tribute song ``Just Like Eddie.=B4=B4

He died last Friday after a long battle against motor neurone disease,
British newspapers reported on Tuesday.

>>Gregsy, play that lick for me one moore time?<<

omnibus,
Molly

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:04:52 -0700
From: Richard Pedretti-Allen <richard@tactics.com>
Subject: Rebel without applause
Message-ID: <l03130305b5193350380d@[165.227.110.102]>

(PLEASE PARDON THE LENGTH:  THIS IS MORE DOGGEREL ABOUT THE MP3 SERVER SITES)

Eric stated in regards Napster, et al:
"It is no different than a local radio station here in Houston, playing the
new Steely Dan record a month before it was actually released. I bet the
ones of you complaining, wouldn't find any problem with this. I could have
very easily taped it, burned it, whatever...but instead, it merely ensured
that I would purchase the record. Advance access to MP3s is no different."

I understand where you can draw parallels but, paralleles being parallels,
they are not on the same line.  There is a distinction.

I'm sure that the Houston radio station didn't play every song in sequence
without station IDs and commercials (there are FCC restrictions).  Not to
mention that the lesser quality recording due to the limited bandwidth of
radio would prevent people from distributing the material with the
exception of the devout fans.

One point is that having downloaded all the songs might make someone
(probably NOT the devout fans) less likely to rush out and buy it,
especially if they only like two or three songs.  With radio exposure to
only the few songs they push, if someone likes what they hear, they buy the
album, though they may not like the remainder.

Radio stations receive promo copies because they are an advertising medium.
Napster and other MP3 server sites did not receive a promo disc, so someone
has taken the liberty to post these songs.  The MP3 sites sacrifice some
control and run the risks (and the numerous lawsuits have shown that,
regardless of the outcome, that there are artists who feel they have been
cheated).  The radio station you mentioned didn't ever turn over the
controls and was simply making an event out of the promo.

Advance access via MP3 is fine if it sanctioned by the artist.  Without the
artist's approval, it is copyright violation.  Simple, isn't it?  It is a
violation of the rights of the artist.  The fact that they produce a
product doesn't give anyone else rights to copy protected material (though
it happens quite a bit and we all have tape copies of some protected
material) and distribute protected material (this is what really hurts the
artist).  The distribution is the danger here because it is essentially
what the MP3 server sites are attempting to do in a legal way.  This is
precisely why they generally implore everyone to alert them to possible
copyright violation.

It probably wouldn't have been so bad if the person posting the songs had
only posted what the major hits will be (i.e., ITMWM Love & WA Light!)
thereby giving the "tease" that radio stations do (but it's still not
"right").

The MP3 sites say that they have no way to control this without having
copyright authorization from each and every artist (ideally it is too easy
to circumvent, i.e., "Hi, this is Richard, My band 'Eggs D.C.' has a new CD
out.  Please post these 12 songs from our CD 'Wasp Rats' for everyone to
enjoy!").

While I believe that the RIAA has been too heavy handed in their limiting
of technology (i.e., Serial Copy Management System in DATs) that doesn't
mean that turning over the asylum to the inmates is in the best interest of
everyone involved.  Every government is functionally inept at governing
itself.

The internet has a level of anonymity that prevents a heavy amount of
regulation.  The amount of control that IS in place serves only to keep the
honest people honest.  The dishonest, greedy, selfish and cretinous
net-rebels will check their conscience at the door and do what they want
damn well please.  Ahhh... but let some of their intellectual property
(obviously under the premise that they HAVE any) be interpreted or pirated
and watch to them grouse!

Maybe the feared "regulation" of the internet will not take place if the
internet is not used as an open-ended free-for-all.  Conversely,
self-regulation is typically self-defeating.  Even Burning Man ain't what
it used to be.

A long time ago, it was reported on Chalkhills that &y & : were in
financial dire straits and people talked of establishing a "fund" for them
to be able to continue their "art."  Wouldn't a better approach be protect
their intellectual property in any way we can and let THEM reap the rewards?

The bottom line (which this is) is that if you have no regard for patent,
copyright and courtesy, then this will fall on deaf eyes but if you have
realize that these methods of protection exist for a valid reason, then how
can you selectively support some and not others?  You can't, so copyright
violation is not a gray area.  So what is it that REALLY needs to be
discussed?  Surely there must be better things to debate on Chalkhills (and
how to regulate MP3 server sites is not one of them) like... what kind of
Cockney slang is "Milzenboon"?

Cheers,
Richard "Would you want me in your afternoon, if I seduced you in your
Harlequin" Pedretti-Allen

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:23:35 CDT
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: Books?
Message-ID: <20000412052335.53169.qmail@hotmail.com>

                   Last book I read?

   Well, it wasn't really a book,it was a white paper on the,

                        Quasi
                        Universal
                        Asymetrical
                     disContiguous
                    quarK

                  Or,DUCK! for short.

                Ever heard of it/them?

                       }---:)

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:14:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com>
Subject: An Urgent Reminder
Message-ID: <20000412051457.2088.qmail@web1301.mail.yahoo.com>

I hope this post gets through before tonight at 10pm EST.  I'm going
to have a listening party for the XTC album Skylarking tonight at 10pm
EST.  Just check out
http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/xtclisteningparty.html.  I hoe a
lot of people show up, and forgive for my rantings earlier about the
Dukes listening party debacle.

Molly

Molly's Pages
http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 06:44:07 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: The Spirit of Compromise
Message-ID: <l03130301b51a0d6a9ff6@[208.13.202.161]>

>When I met my wife, I said, "I'm really into XTC," and she said ,
>" 'English Settlement' is one of my favorite albums."
>
>Music is quite important to me, and while I'm sure that
>Mr. & Mrs. Coolidge are enjoying a wonderful life together
>discussing the I.R.S. and the 2nd Amendment while listening to
>"Down In The Cockpit" segueing into "Every Woman in the World,"
>seamlessly drifting into "I Write the Songs," I count myself as extremely
>lucky because we are as happy as Albert & Victoria, relaxing in front of a
>fire
>sipping red wine, discussing Richard Dawkins' "Unweaving the Rainbow" and
>Carl Sagan's "The
>Demon Haunted World" and listening to "Melt The Guns" followed up by
>Kevin Gilbert's "When You Give Your Love to Me" and Steely Dan's "What a
>Shame About Me."
>
>Stick to your guns, Benjamin.
>
>Michael Versaci

  Sorry I brought up the dreaded A.S. word, but the fact is my wife is a
serious fan like I'm a serious fan of XTC, Richard Thompson, The Kinks,
Steve Earle, and a select very few others. She understood this about me,
and I understood there was an upside to her mostly awful taste in music,
it's the flipside of her deeply romantic personality. Could be worse, her
sister is a committed Chris DeBurgh fan. AUGGHH! I'd sooner put up with
"Lost In Love" than "The Lady In Red." And when I first met them both, I
was actually more attracted to Sue's sister by sight, then when I actually
talked to Sue it was all over for me, and she could have been a Black
Sabbath fan(though I would have doubted it with her personality)for all I
knew.
   We have an agreement; she knows I don't like Air Supply(though I find
their most recent album from a couple of years ago tolerable in a late
Moody Blues sort of way, plus it doesn't have any of their hits), and I
have an advantage: she doesn't dislike XTC. However, The Sex Pistols and
Motorhead and The Ramones are unwelcome on the turntable when she's around.
So XTC is a very happy compromise. I could do a lot worse, I can play Apple
Venus on the CD player any time I want without complaint, she at least
finds it pleasant. And we do have some common ground, I got her the recent
Blondie live reunion album because she requested some Blondie for her
birthday, and it's got something for both of us, "The Tide Is High" and
"Heart Of Glass" for her, and "Rip Her To Shreds" and "No Exit" for me.
Sometimes compromise is pleasant. It beats Sue's aunt Diane making her
husband listen to The Kinks on headphones. Wouldn't want to be married to
Diane.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at
http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has
10 GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder,
theft, assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to
protect me from myself."  - Unknown

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:41:56 +0100
From: "David Edwards" <david@awed.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: In Defence of Spoilers
Message-ID: <001b01bfa474$44575940$af19893e@oemcomputer>

Hi Folks

This is the second of three emails planned for the new millennium. On the
subject of Spoilers, let's imagine I describe to you the experience of
eating strawberry cheesecake. It might go something like this: you bite
through the tangy strawberry topping - which is sharp and almost sickly
sweet - and then your teeth plunge into the lovely, much milder contrast of
the soft, sticky, creamy cheesecake proper (actually not that cheesy), and
then you crash through the lovely, crumbly biscuity base, which is
beautifully conservative, dry and nutty in comparison to the gooey anarchic
radicalism of the first two tastes. You then shut up shop, lip-wise, munch
away happily, transforming the whole mush into an insane custardy firework
display of strawberry catherine wheels, vanilla rockets, and biscuity
bangers. at which you point you greedily eye the next bite.

The effect of this description might be to increase your desire for
strawberry cheesecake, but it does not come close to describing the actual
experience - if you'd never had cheesecake, you wouldn't really have a
clue - and so it doesn't at all spoil your enjoyment of the real thing.
Describing tongue, eye, nose or ear impressions with words is like a dog
describing its inner life by pawing at the air and drooling when it see you
eating cheesecake. So why do people get upset by discussion of XTC's newly
delivered cheesecake? Because it +does+ increase desire, and desire (despite
what most people believe) is a form of suffering. About a thousand years
ago, the philosopher Aryadeva, noted sagely (well he was a sage.):

"If desire were pleasurable
There would be no need for women [or men, or new XTC albums to finally
arrive].
Pleasure is not regarded as
Something to get rid of."

Desire hurts: you just need to think for a moment of the days stretching
between now and May 23! Cheesecake Spoilers increase desire, and so people
get upset. But it's good to be clear that the upset isn't really about the
fact that the final pleasure of getting the album is thereby ruined, because
it isn't ruined. There's also the issue of freedom of speech: Brothers and
sisters, the day we restrict +that+ freedom to ensure a stress-free life for
our index fingers,
is the day that democracy and liberty have finally... etc : -)

Yours - David 'Did you see that? I nearly bit it, and there's a bloody wasp
in it!' Edwards

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:52:49 +1000 (EST)
From: Mud Shark <mudshark1944@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Eric Clapzzzzzzzzzzzz
Message-ID: <20000412055249.23787.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com>

>>From : "Seth Frisby" <vagueyear@hotmail.com>
>>
>>If you want the king of sacred cows you need look no
>>further than Eric Clapton <snip> it seems the great
>>bug of laziness has captured his muse since the mid
>>to late seventies.

Is it any coincidence that Eric Clapton is an anagram
of "narcoleptic"?

MS

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"I rail against God because I was told to stop eating paste in Sunday
school" - P.J.O'Rourke

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:54:42 +0000
From: David_Goody@mandg.co.uk
Subject: LPs to CD
Message-ID: <002568BF.002AD038.00@mailgate.mandg.co.uk>

Dear All,

Whenever I'm in trouble (musically, of course), I turn to Chalkhills, so
here's my cry for help today.

I've suddenly realised I've got loads of great music on vinyl and I never
listen to it, so I want to transfer it to CD. My problem? How do I do it?

I've got the hardware to play the vinyl on (naturally) and a PC with a CD
writer, but I have absolutely no idea of what should go inbetween and the
software I need. Can anyone help me? Do I need special ports on my PC?
Special cards? What leads do I need? How about software?

If anyone out there has done this before, and can lend me a hand (off line
please, to david_goody@mandg.co.uk), I would be eternally grateful, and may
even offer a small reward.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the absence of XTC content.

Dave.

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:46:13 -0600
From: Michael De Bernardi <debernardi@cybermesa.com>
Subject: napster, xtc, etc.
Message-ID: <p04310102b519ba335d5c@[209.194.200.66]>

this debate is getting tiresome, but i figured i would let people in
on my personal system.

i have been gradually chasing down wasp star on napster (macster) and
downloading one or two songs at a time.  i then listen to the songs
until i first "get" them, and then immediately delete and start the
process over again.  my impatience is overwhelming.  by "get" them, i
mean the ability to really comprehend the song on both a cognitive
and emotional level.  this stage is usually marked by a large grin,
and it usually takes three to four plays before i get there.

i think spiritualized once put in their liner notes "play twice
before listening", and i've always found this a good rule to follow.

what this system affords me is the opportunity to satiate my intense
cravings while moving me beyond the initial unfamiliar playings of
the album when it arrives.  deleting the songs once i "get" them also
ensures that i don't get burned out.  thus, when the final product
arrives, the first play will be a fresh yet immediately familiar
listen, during which i may weep freely (as i did when i first heard
"then she appeared").

i will buy at least three copies when the album is released, and have
no plans to send the mp3s to anyone else.

also, i like hearing others' impressions of the album.  page down if
you don't want to read it.

lurking on chalkhills nine years and counting...

michael

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Date: 11 Apr 00 23:06:45 PDT
From: Brian Wysolmierski <bwysol@netscape.net>
Subject: another Wasp Star review...
Message-ID: <20000412060645.5409.qmail@www0n.netaddress.usa.net>

SPOILER ALERT! I heard Wasp Star. It is is fantastic! It's good! Oh yeah!
Classic XTC. There are lots of small suprises for people who've heard the
demos.

playground- This is the rockin', old-school xtc song that will make you
very happy. The chorus kicks in with a bang, and the use of Andy's daughter
for back-up vocals made me feel warm and fuzzy.  Even after playing the
demo to death, I can not get enough of this song.

im the man who murdered love- Yes, this should DEFINATELY be the single. I
can't believe this song nearly didn't make it to the album. With the same
charm as Mayor of Simpleton, maybe they'll be back on the charts.

we're all light- bouncy, goofy, and fun. The theramin gives it a little
sci-fi wackiness to it--It does kind of remind me of House Of Pain (don't
panic!  It's funny and cool). They haven't had this much fun since the
Dukes. I can't really see it as a single though.

wounded horse- bluesy. Not catchy, but I don't dislike it. the lyrics make
it interesting. ill have to give it more listens.

boarded up- not spectacular, but acts as a good buffer between Andy's pop
extravaganzas. Colin's bummed out again, for this one song. Thank God.

the wheel and the maypole- For me, this is the most "classic" feeling XTC
song of the bunch.  It would be right at home on the Big
Express. Dynamic. Catchy ending.

Church of Women- Another fantastic Andy pop tune.  Bouncy bass line.  I
agree with another reviewer that the horn sounds a little out of place, but
maybe it'll grow on me.

Some Lovely- changed from the demo, it's not as catchy as it used to be. I
guess it sounded too standard, so Andy "weirded" it up a bit. I really
don't know what I think of it yet. It didn't immediately grab me, but
that's not necessarily a bad thing.

You and the clound will still be beautiful- Not one of my favorites, but
it's growing on me. The Sting-y vocals at one point in the song throws me
off.

In another life- My Mom told me if you don't have something nice to say,
don't say anything. Honestly, I love Colin though.

Stupidly Happy- Repetitive rock riff, but not a boring song. good stuff.
Doesn't sound like an obvious single to me (I'd choose Playground over
this).

-Brian

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