Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 206
Date: Thursday, 13 May 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 206
Thursday, 13 May 1999
Today's Topics:
Richard dates the Dukes
Andy Delurking?
They Grow On You
eric partridge
PLAY AT HOME
Your Dream XTC Tribute Album
That Wave
Is it a Crumhorn?
Assorted Ruminations
Goodbye to Chalkhills
Out of the closet
re: Crank it up
Moregasm
CD bonus tracks +
Aussie press
My Nonesuch CD
MP3, anyone?
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 03:02:58 -0400 Subject: Richard dates the Dukes Message-ID: <19990512.114443.3606.1.BrainiacsDaughter@juno.com> From: Elizabeth I Spencer <brainiacsdaughter@juno.com> Errrrrrrrr, OF COURSE "CHIPS" SOUNDS DATED! It's a tribute/takeoff/elbow in the side/send up of the 60's, and should make the unsuspecting listener think, "Hmmmm, this doesn't sound familiar-but it should!" (Meanwhile, it's better than a lot of the chart-toppers of the time, and definitely gives The Vanilla Fudge a run for its money.) I don't mean to be rude, but I think you might be asleep at the wheel. If "Chips" sounds "dated", (and I assume you meant that negatively,) then you don't "get" the Dukes, and if you don't get the Dukes, how can you really "get" XTC? Just asking- Liz
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990512161947.19232.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:19:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: Andy Delurking? After reading a bunch of posts about Andy's possibly being on Chalkhills, I have this to say: If YOU were Andy, would you reveal yourself? ...didn't think so.
------------------------------ From: music@telisphere.com Message-ID: <3739AAD4.583E@telisphere.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:22:44 -0700 Subject: They Grow On You "I like SOME of the old stuff, just not as much of it." This sort of describes me, however... After reading all the "best" and "worst" xtc song opinions. I went back and played all my xtc CD's/vinyl again, focusing on the songs that were less favoured, and guess what? They grow on you. As you listen carefully (headphones recommended), you realize how much you missed the first few times around. Randy Hiatt pointed this out to me when I first came onboard. He was right. - Rich Frers
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From: Saints3Den@aol.com
Message-ID: <ec874821.246b13e2@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:26:58 EDT
Subject: eric partridge
chalkies-
so I'm in the library looking for The Story of English. I find
it ,when what to my wondering eyes should appear next to it , -ORIGINS-A
short etymological dictionary of modern english.By Eric Partridge.Inside
the back cover,he is reffered to as" the word -king."
Any relation to Andy?
I open the book to look up morgasm. Only thing close is
morganatic. -"matrimonium ad morganaticam" a morning gift . so,maybe
morgasm is a morning orgasm?
Priapic Nipple? Don't anyone steal my band name? Why not ? Shouldnt
there be two priapic nipples?
I was looking in chalkhills at some lyrics. For "the end" it has "of
kicking ass and runny noses" I hear it as "of itching ass and runny noses"
Either way, another example ao Andy saying ass,instead of arse. Is erica
black?
eddie st .martin
------------------------------ From: Kimberly Martin <kimbriel@arches.uga.edu> Subject: PLAY AT HOME Message-ID: <SIMEON.9905121423.A@default.cssites.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:09:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Hello there-- It's been a while since I've posted, and haven't really been keeping up with the digests like I should have, but the last few I've read seem to show that not too much has changed in chalk-land in the last few months... well, the main reason I'm posting is because last night at a little record store called Low Yo Yo here in Athens, GA I picked up a bootleg video of XTC called "Play at Home." It looks like it's been dubbed about 13 times, and I paid $15 for it, but it was definitely worth it! It apparently came out right after Mummer, right before Big Express, cos the video opens with shots of Swindon and Andy singing/playing an acoustic version of "Soul Coal." I had never seen any of the Mummer videos prior to seeing this video, and was very pleasantly surprised to see that they made videos for over half of the songs on the album, apparently, b/c on this video are the entire videos for "Beating of Hearts," "Human Alchemy," "Love on a Farmboy's Wages," "In Loving Memory of a Name" (TOO COOL!!! God, I love this song, and the video's perfect for it), and "Funk Pop a Roll." I know there's a video for "Wonderland" out there somewhere too, cos I've seen about 10 seconds of it once before when Andy hosted "120 Minutes" about 7 or so years ago, but it is, unfortunately, not included on "Play at Home." There is also footage of the famous (now painted over, I hear) mural of all the famous people in Swindon, and a long interview with Andy, Dave, and Colin all together, plus individual interviews (Andy playing with toy soldiers and the games he invented, Colin talking about his main hobby, fishing, and Dave showing off his guitar collection, plenty of really nice guitars, I might add). Needless to say, this video has made me verry happy! :) I could work out some sort of trade with anyone interested who'd like a dub... which reminds me, I was going to dub some Bill Hicks for a fellow on this list, but I failed to get back in touch, b/c he sent me a trade list as an attachment and in the process of getting it open it got messed up. So, if you still remember who you are, you can write me and I'll try to get back on the ball. Could anyone tell me where I can buy a copy of the "Easter Theatre" single? Can I buy it online, or should I order it? also, has there been a single released of "I'd Like That"? e-mail me privately for trades, etc, cos I hate to admit it, but, my reading of the posts has been a bit sketchy lately (just finished spring semester at UGA and am on break between semesters now, meaning that I can only get to a computer about once a week now and even then am cramped for time!) but, I'll try to stay more caught up. Anyone else have the "Play at Home" video? Anyone have copies of the "Wonderland" video, or videos from "Skylarking" or any Dukes videos? let me know! --Kim
------------------------------ From: mollyfa@juno.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:36:27 -0400 Subject: Your Dream XTC Tribute Album Message-ID: <19990512.143628.2838.0.MollyFa@juno.com> I know there's already been Testimonial Dinner, but I was thinking about what would your dream XTC tribute album be? Who would you have on it and what songs would they sing. You can have whoever you want. From the reformed ABBA (like that would ever happen) to ZZ Top (hehehe, I would love to see them do an XTC song). Here are my choices. 1. Generals and Majors - Depeche Mode 2. Grass - Mark Hollis (of Talk Talk) 3. All of You Pretty Girls - Adam Ant 4. Senses Working Overtime - Oasis 5. Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead - Eric Clapton 6. Statue of Liberty - Squeeze 7. Another Satellite - Kate Bush 8. Then She Appears - O'Rang (Paul Webb and Lee Harris of Talk Talk's band) 9. Jump - Neil Finn 10. Wake Up - Ben Folds Five 11. Dear God - Jewel 12. Mayor of Simpleton - Paul McCartney So there you go. How do you like my choices. It's very unique. Now It's your turn, so go ahead and knock yourselves out. =o) Molly http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html
------------------------------ From: music@telisphere.com Message-ID: <3739F3FE.3A18@telisphere.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:34:54 -0700 Subject: That Wave " 07. I Know What Boys Like - Waitresses" I always kinda like that one (don't feel a bit guilty either :) "But it seems I'm the only person on this list who doesn't like 'that wave'.."/ "You're not the only one, baby! That song is Yuk." That song is splendid actually. Sounds like the Dukes! The guitar solo alone is worth the price of admission! (Shaddup and put yer headphones on! :) Love that Dunks/Dom comedy team! :) Peace - RF
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199905122238.XAA24297@boober.lineone.net> From: "David S White" <david.s.white@lineone.net> Subject: Is it a Crumhorn? Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:06:58 -0000 Hello Chalkists, In Chalkhills #5-204 John Voorhees asks if the nasal bass underpinning Greenman is a bassoon, and/or contra-bassoon or maybe a crumhorn. You don't often read such things in the Motorhead discussion group, I daresay. Well to my ears it's that other great rock'n'roll instrument, the harmonium. Or at least a sample of one. A person can spend nights worrying over such things. David
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From: Iain.Murray.70428176@army.defence.gov.au
Message-Id: <4A25676F.007AD4B4.00@stagemaster.army.defence.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:42:10 +1000
Subject: Assorted Ruminations
>>From: Huw Davies <DaviesHPT@cardiff.ac.uk>
>> However I have a completely
different attitude towards Black Sea and whenever I listen to it I
program my CD player to miss out the bonus tracks. Black Sea works
much better as a whole album.
I have to admit that Black Sea has taken a long time to win me over, and
it's still the album I listen to least, but I think the bonus tracks
(especially "Don't Lose Your Temper") are better than some of the
"official" album cuts ("Living Through Another Cuba" leaps to mind). Again,
I started listening to the band on CD, and with the exception of English
Settlement (single-LP version), I've never heard the albums on vinyl.
>>I do agree that the bonus tracks should
have been put on the end of the CDs.
...in the same way as the Elvis Costello releases (which I'm sure has been
mentioned here before, but it's a good point, so I'm nicking it for the
time being).
>>Re: Songs for AV2
>> Another would be "You and the Clouds Will Still be Beautiful"
but I gather that it's not in the running which is a huge shame. Oh
well.
That's one of my favourites, as well (along with "I Don't Want To Be
Here"). Maybe we'll see them on AV3 some time around 2002....
>>From: Chauncy14@aol.com
>>I found an album, a compilation rather, entitled *1982-Cmj
Year In Alternative Music * with the following song list:
>>01. Come On Eileen - Dexy's Midnight Runners
02. Our House - Madness
03. Sensed Working Overtime - XTC
04. A Town Called Malice - The Jam
05. Tainted Love - Soft Cell
06. Never Say Never - Romeo Void
07. I Know What Boys Like - Waitresses
08. Homosapien - Pete Shelley
09. The Look Of Love (Part One) - ABC
10. Love Plus One - Haircut One Hundred
11. Nick The Stripper - Birthday Party
12. Shoot Out The Lights - Richard And Linda Thompson
>>This reminds me too much of the 80's, a period of music I would rather
not remember. I will take Number 3 and 4 above, and that is it!
What about #12? The title track to the album of the decade (in my opinion,
anyway)? But I agree with you that *the rest* of them can be forgotten
easily enough (Romeo Void?). As an aside, "Homosapien" has recently been
covered by some Australian band whose name escapes me for the moment, and
it's getting a shitload of airplay over here - certainly more than the new
XTC stuff (go figure).
>>From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com>
>>A sincere 'sorry' to Dom for my snide and wise-ass dig at Metal. I WAS
joking of course, but as usual I forgot that :) thingy.
I've had that problem myself lately....
>>Dom and I have kissed and made up and the engagement will be announced
in the Times soon.
Dunks, you old heartbreaker - I suppose it's up to *me* to break this news
to the bellydancer....
>>(Watch for our photo on a forthcoming cover of Country
Life. Dom loks just dishy in his Slayer-inspired codpiece, and I think my
pink silk gown looks thimply divine. Should I shave off the beard though?)
I've still got the photo of you and the bellydancer, dude - it looks
fantastic in A3 size, stuck to the wall by my desk at work ("Smithers, who
*is* that rug-cutting ruffian?").
Iain
------------------------------ Message-ID: <2043F72A2C73D2119D5B0008C74CA17B55F4D1@azmail.rjconsult.com> From: "Miller, Ed" <emiller@rjconsult.com> Subject: Goodbye to Chalkhills Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:51:44 -0500 To all my friends at Chalkhills.... I will be unsubscribing from Chalkhills in the next couple of days. But before I do, I'd like to make a couple of comments. Thanks to John Relph for making this digest a reality. For almost four years I looked forward to reading it as soon as it hit my inbox. Lately, though, I find the digest becoming more and more nasty and a lot less witty and informative. Over the years, I've made some great contacts through the list. I'd like to thank you to you all. I hope I don't forget anyone. Please stay in touch. Thanks to... Peter Fitzpatrick Jeff Smelser Richard Pedretti-Allen Mike Versaci Harrison Sherwood Dan Prendiville Ira Lieman John Gardner Bob Estus Mitch Friedman I know I've probably forgotten someone. My apologies if I have. Good luck everyone. See you around. Ed Miller Director - Information Technology Raymond James Consulting Denver, CO
------------------------------ Message-ID: <002401be9cd2$4012ed40$18bfa0d0@meridith-s> From: "squirrelgirl" <squirrelgirl@citrusonline.net> Subject: Out of the closet Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:50:39 -0400 Howdy 'Hillians! I think it's time to speak my mind and possibly OFFEND the delicate sensibilites of some denizens of this list. I like GO2; not my fave XTC album but it (and White Music) have a fairly frequent rotation in my CD player - more than Non(e)su(v)ch. Now, for the controversy: I actually LIKE the song "My Weapon". I don't necessarily like the words or the violent intent, but, to me, it is funny since I don't take it seriously. I like the beat and the thrashing rhythm, especially when I am in a bad mood (Red), which is why I like the earlier albums anyway. So, ladies and gents, please feel free to flame away! Remember to e-mail me privately and I will summarize the most humorous responses for the group. Secondly, I find myself doing this every few weeks, but I think it's time to do it again. THANK YOU to Dom and Dunks, for once again giving us all a big har-de-har-har. Dunks, I understood your sarcasm even without the :); anyone who has subscribed to Chalkhills for more than 2 weeks should have spotted it a mile away. Dom, you have a true gift with the language (won't touch the "English" part with a 10-foot pole) and always make me smile even when I don't agree with you (which I do an astounding percentage of the time). That's all for now :-)!!! Squirrelgirl
------------------------------ Date: 13 May 99 09:48:29 AES From: Paul.Culnane@dcita.gov.au Subject: re: Crank it up Message-ID: <0000ecaugkce.0000amoywwyk@dcita.gov.au> Todd Bernhardt's post in 'Hills #204 summed it up succinctly. I urge you all to read it again. ~p@ul
------------------------------ From: Melsta@aol.com Message-ID: <d71cb5be.246b83f4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:25:08 EDT Subject: Moregasm Hey Chalkers-- Just got my June Glamour magazine today. You know, it's just not the same since they changed editors - if I wanted Cosmo, I'd be reading Cosmo. But anyway, this really is XTC content. Right there on the cover it sez: "Get Moregasmic! - Shameless Tricks to Double _Your_ Pleasure" And yes, it's a typical Cosmo-style article on spicing up your sex life. Still, it's topical, eh? Melissa "C'mon - they even started printing HOROSCOPES!!" Reaves PS to Todd - what other kind of child could Chrissy Hynde and Rudolph Nureyev have than a bastard child? ;-)
------------------------------ From: JStrole@aol.com Message-ID: <f93fa5cd.246b8de6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:07:34 EDT Subject: CD bonus tracks + I've noticed a lot of postings on the CD bonus track thingy lately. IMHO I think Virgin should have put the extra track after a 15 second wait at the end of the original track listing. In fact, I believe I read this suggestion here before, but I can't remember who made it. "No Thugs..." appears in the proper spot on the CD version of ES. However, on the LP it was at the beginning of side two with "Jason..." ending side one. The chairs in "Harvest Festival" are actually Andy & Colin getting up out of chairs, over dubbed many times. I read some where it was rather exhausting to do. Finally, my hero of 20th century is Paul Robeson. How many renaissance men were there in this century. He did it all: All-American Football player, Studied law at Columbia, made numerous songs into standards, was a great actor and so on. Harry
------------------------------ Date: 13 May 99 14:02:50 AES From: Paul.Culnane@dcita.gov.au Subject: Aussie press Message-ID: <0000sgqggsoe.0000oqekweko@dcita.gov.au> Chalkholes: One of Australia's better rock journalists, Michael Dwyer, seems to have had a recent telephone conversation with our Andy, and has placed two items in Australia's "rock press" about XtC and Apple Venus Volume 1. A one-page piece in the weekly "Drum Media" (similar to London's "Time Out") and a major piece in the June Australian edition of "Rolling Stone", with Andy giving his candid opinions about each of the band's albums. They are well-written items and obviously valuable publicity for the band in Australia. I recommend these articles to any Aussie listees - and if anybody anywhere wants scanned copies, just e-mail me. The June RS also lists AV1 among its "recommended" albums of the last four months. As an aside, I guess a lot of you know that I put a lot of time, money and effort into interviewing Andy last year. The full interview, along with an extremely rare chat with Terry Chambers are of course available on Mark Strijbos' marvellous XtC website The Little Lighthouse at: http/come.to/xtc [Mark informs me that the AP interview has scored beyond 3000 hits since it was put online on 11/11/98 - bloody remarkable! - I hope readers enjoyed it] I used the wealth of material contained in that interview to compose items that I submitted to most of the major newspapers and specific music organs in this country - all to no avail. Disappointing after a lot of hard work on my part. I guess I'm just not the "journalist" I sometimes aspire to be. But I still reckon my interviews with AP and TC are corkers! Nevertheless, it's great to see our boys getting coverage in Oz. Watch out here for news about a *possible* XtC special on RAGE (ABC-TV music vid show in Oz). They *might* play all the XtC videos which would be wonderful. This special is mooted for the latter half of this year. If it goes ahead, rest assured that I will make tapes available to anybody who's interested. I love XtC and, by association, I love you ~p@ul
------------------------------ From: b.hancill@sundaymirror.co.uk Message-ID: <80256770.004971D7.00@mgnmail3.mgn.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:22:12 +0100 Subject: My Nonesuch CD All that recent debate about the merits of Nonesuch inspired me to dig it out for the first time since I joined this list, at which point I remembered that my UK CD edition has an unusual case with the gold detail of the building overlaid on the jewel case rather than on the front of the booklet inside. I bought it in a second-hand shop a few years back and I recall it had some kind of limited edition sticker on it which I removed. I'm not interested in selling it (and it's got a small crack on the front anyway) but does anyone know whether this was a particularly rare version or not? On the more important question of the music, I'm firmly in the pro-Nonesuch camp. That, Skylarking and AV1 are my favourite XTC albums. In fact (heresy of heresies) I don't even like a much of the early stuff apart from some of the singles. Regards from Brian Hancill
------------------------------ Message-ID: <373B1BE9.E78F4377@pop.uky.edu> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:37:29 -0400 From: james isaacs <jmisaa00@pop.uky.edu> Subject: MP3, anyone? Gruss Gott- I am beginning to be sucked into the maelstrom that is this MP3 rage thingy. I was wondering inf anyone had seen or even posessed any MP3s of XTC songs that may be hard to come by. I noticed a few days ago that on the official(?) Captain Beefheart site (www.beefheart.com), there are hundreds of MP3s of bootleg albums available. Of course, I have not searched far and wide for XTC stuff yet, as I have every legit release and some not so legit. I would like to find things such as Jules Verne or demos if they do exist in MP3 form. Any help out there? Go 2 rules, those who think otherwise need their spleens removed. : ) James
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