Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 316
Date: Sunday, 21 November 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 316
Sunday, 21 November 1999
Today's Topics:
Snapple Penis Volume 2
Duffy vs The Lilac Time
Vic and Collin
a bit of this and that..
From Here to Eternity
Re: Demos
Re: the big express - again
You cannot be serious
Song of the Millennium
Thanks for Christmas
The Stuffing
meat
Charlie Buck.
Re: Sleeping Through Swindon
Re: tongue in cheek by jowl
Rasberry Cremes
Eh wot?
sextc
To turk or not to turk ...
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:29:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Getter Slack <tgs@telerama.com> Subject: Snapple Penis Volume 2 Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.02.9911191727320.28527-100000@frogger.telerama.com> Chalkboreds, Important Announcement: Several prominent Chalkposters have agreed to apply thier numerous and sundry talents to the next pinnacle of Chalkhills musical acheivements: Snapple Penis Volume 2, a Bizzaro World counterpart to our heroes' up and coming Apple Venus Volume 2. Listed below are the tracks and contributors, juxtaposed with their real world counterparts: Stupidly Happy XTC Brilliantly Psychotic Harrison Sherwood Playground XTC Hopscotch Sucks Duncan Kimball You And The Clouds XTC u + da clowdz David Oh Wounded Horse XTC Winky Fish Vee Tube Wheel And The Maypole XTC Meal And The Arsehole Brian "eatingfutureshittingpast" Mattone We're All Light XTC You're All C*nts Dom Lawson In Another Life XTC In Another Hemisphere The Oz Contingent Standing In For Joe XTC Andy's On My Phone Mitch Freidman Boarded Up XTC Bored Enough Tyler Hewitt My Brown Guitar XTC My 526 Brown Guitars Tod Bernhardt Church of Women XTC Church of Dave Amanda Owens I'm The Man Who XTC Murdered Love I'm The Man Who John Relph Killed This Thread And just in case Andy's arm gets twisted: I Don't Want To Be Here XTC I Want To Be Here But Nobody Charlie Buck Else Wants Me Here Disclaimer: In accordance with Chalkhills Act #5-305 "Thou Shalt Not Intentionally Yank Anyone's Chain", we are required to present the following tongue-in-cheek icon: \<o/ TGS
------------------------------ From: "Damian Wise (Foulger)" <damian@imclaser.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:14:09 -0600 Subject: Duffy vs The Lilac Time Message-Id: <19991119161023.9a9c0861.in@ceo.ceolasers.com> Sebastien Maury wrote: > Duffy: can anyone explain why I like his solo stuff, his co-written stuff > (eg Stunt by BNL) but Lilac Time's 3 albums do very close to sweet FA for > me?? It's a true quandary which I'd like to remedy. Maybe I disfigured a > folk singer in a former existence or something. This is an interesting question. However, there are five LT CD's all of which ARE fairly different from Duffy's solo career. It probably is the folk element. In fact, The Lilca Time got their name from Nick Drake, Britains finest folk singer. His stuff wrenches the heart muscles! What I want to know is, is there a Chalkhills of The Lilac Time, say 'Paradise Circus' and does Stephen Duffy has an obsession with USA in space, as more than none of his songs feature actual recorded radio transmissions from some missions. Bizarre... but damn good. Dames tWd 'Real' is an adjective and 'Really' is an adverb.
------------------------------ From: victor.hobbs@dtn.ntl.com Message-ID: <38357C81.3CDAA235@dtn.ntl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:36:17 +0000 Subject: Vic and Collin Victor Hobbs and Collin Moulding at the G.L.R. (Grater London Radio) station on October 14th 1998. "ho what a big fan I am, hugs all round !!" [ see http://chalkhills.org/images/photo/Vic_Colin1.jpg ]
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From: OMBEAN1@aol.com
Message-ID: <0.4e16aa83.25674ae3@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:52:51 EST
Subject: a bit of this and that..
Doods,
Victor, WHAT are you doing to Colin & is he enjoying it?
I recently heard Primus's version of "Nigel". Not very impressed. It
should of been on "Testicular Dinner". Its that good (bad ? )
I finally got a copy of Homespun. Its nothing spectacular , but a nice
addition to my collection. Although I quite like "ROO". Andys "mmmm"'s are
much shorter . It sounds pretty cool.
Thus ends tonights broadcast. Roger
p.s. Buy Home Depot stock.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000101bf3301$a8caa560$3db59fce@default> From: "Wes Hanks" <wes@iolvegas.com> Subject: From Here to Eternity Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:47:57 -0800 Mates, I have just finished listening to "From Here to Eternity" the new live collection from The Clash. Oh f*ck, my feeble words cannot due justice to what I experienced listening to this increadible disc. What formed your musical taste... While everyone else in school (1980) was listening to Pink Floyd's "The Wall", listened non-stop to "London Calling". There was no f*cking "alternative" radio - listening to records by word of mouth. Music played with sincerity of belief and balls-on passion. Now my heart is full, Wes
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:01:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911200501.VAA70956@mando.engr.sgi.com> From: John Relph <relph@engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Demos Thus spake Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com>: > > I would have liked >some help with Demos, but no one seems interested in helping so I will say >this one more time. I need rare tracks. Well, I'd like to help, but I don't have a CD-R burner. In fact, I don't even own a PC. I'm working on a borrowed computer, as always. I don't even have two cassette decks to make tape copies. I suck. -- John
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:08:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911200508.VAA71305@mando.engr.sgi.com> From: John Relph <relph@engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: the big express - again David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com> punched in: > >greetings kiddie-winkies, and terrible tiny tots. >i still haven't got a definitive answer on why my copy of 'the big express' >is the way it is. And I don't think you will! >again, this is what happens: it has the bonus tracks listed on the back, in >the lyric booklet and on the disc itself, but as the disc plays, it goes >from 'this world over' straight to 'the everyday story of smalltown', while >the cd display shows track number 5 then 6 for the above songs and shows up >to track 11, not 14 as indicated by the artwork. So it's basically the original LP, no bonus tracks. Even though the artwork lists the bonus tracks in the expected places. >although i thank the people who have responded to my question privately, no >one has explained to me if this is common or if it is a rarity. does anyone >else have this disc with this artwork/tracklisting? I would like to know the answer to that question as well. Obviously, the CD exists. But is it common? It had not been reported to me prior to David's report. >virgin label, manufactured in the u.k., catalog # cdv 2325. it also has a >bar-code sticker on the back with the following numbers: 77778 66892. Added. -- John
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000801bf333a$8100db60$0617063e@default> From: "David Seddon" <D.Seddon@btinternet.com> Subject: You cannot be serious Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:05:48 -0000 John in Sushiland wrote: In his post about a recent trip to England , Herne wrote : >Finally...Swindon. To be honest...I slept through it. Now , how can any self-respecting XTC fan go all the to England , and actually pass through Swindon without stopping for a look ' round ? I ask you : Probably because Swindon is only marginally more interesting than Milton Keynes. Still you might catch a glance at Melinda Messinger! Make that two glances.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901bf333a$83326160$0617063e@default> From: "David Seddon" <D.Seddon@btinternet.com> Subject: Song of the Millennium Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:14:43 -0000 What an amazing list we have being put forward in the media about this: Come on you voters...get real ! Me, I'm going for Lily the Pink (second choice, Rawhide). After all she was "the saviour of the human race" and the Millennium is supposed to be about the birth of a saviour, so there you go!!!!! (plus, it was probably the first single that I ever bought). I'd love to see the Queen bringing in the next Millennium with that playing in the background!
------------------------------ Message-ID: <38366EB7.6F4D86@mpx.com.au> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:49:43 +0800 From: Jonathan Dutton <duttonj@mpx.com.au> Subject: Thanks for Christmas Martin wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Buying a couple of T-shirts in The Gap in Cheapside in London > yesterday, over the music system they started playing 'Thanks for > Christmas'....Oh well it makes a change from Jona Lewie and 'Stop the > Cavalry'.... I just heard it playing in a chocolate shop in a major shopping centre. I was tempted to round people up, drag them into the store, and say "Here, listen to this!". Pity they weren't playing "The Last Balloon"...
------------------------------ From: WWi8064839@aol.com Message-ID: <0.4a00b599.2567e488@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 06:48:24 EST Subject: The Stuffing The Stuffing All around the table Everybody who is able Wants my stuffing The lowly and the great Even those who already ate Eat my stuffing That bird that we ate most of (that bird) Now lies there, its skeleton stepped out Everybody still wants more of (that stuff) The stuff that I call my stuffing now The stuffing's coming! (Straight to ya!) The stuffing's Better than the mashed potatoes The stuffing's coming! You'll eat so much, Your pants will split in several places The stuffing's coming! (Straight to ya!) The stuffing's Better than the can-shaped berries The stuffing's coming! (Straight to ya!) The stuffing's coming (Straight to ya!) Eat it eat it eat it eat it eat it eat it
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:38:48 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff <blukoff@alvord.com> Subject: meat Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.991120042816.6530F-100000@locutus.alvord.com> Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com> wrote: > One thing I would ask of all of you though is if you were to look at your > local market for "Tofurkey" you would be quite suprised at the taste! It > tastes just like Turkey. Remember, Spices are what makes the meat taste > good; its the preperation, not the actual food that tasts good. Go to Quite a blanket statement. I don't think that's true at all. Except for sausage. I would fully agree that it's the spices that make the various organ meats and bits of gristle taste (quite) good in sausage. I mean, maybe it's true for you, but I think unspiced food tastes fine. And though I like a liberal sprinkling of salt and pepper (or soy sauce and vinegar, depending) on all my meats, they help enhance the underlying flavor, not mask it. Anyway, I had a nutburger once. It was actually pretty good, but it didn't taste a thing like meat. Not an acceptable substitute for me. > Jack and the Box or Taco Bell and you will know what I mean, tastes more > like shit to me! Yum! Makes me want a sourdough bacon cheeseburger and then a Chilito! (I want to come home! I don't think they have Jack in the Boxes or Taco Bells over here!) - Ben Lukoff of Seattle, currently studying in London
------------------------------ Message-ID: <391790362.943081088477.JavaMail.root@web03_mc.mail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 01:58:08 -0500 (EST) From: Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com> Subject: Charlie Buck. Real funny to take a fake name like Charlie buck to prove some kind of little cool point. A Charlie works for me, so this is not him. B, he is right beside me. Grow up. Wonder why I am so sick of the bullshit on this list. I recieve way more fucked up mail than I do positve mail, even though I have not argued for months with anyone! To the other guy talking about forwarding letters to John, it was done, I did my point, and I pointed everyone out on the list, but John did not let my message go through as he thought it would do more harm than good. Just grow the fuck up and lets talk about music. Stop emailing me with the drama and get on with your lives. This only aplies to the assholes emailing me (bad stuff!) and the people pretentding to be other people. GROW UP!!! [ Let's keep this stuff off the list, please. -- John ]
------------------------------ Message-ID: <001601bf3366$316756c0$6b96cdcf@computer> From: "Scott & Karyn Creedon" <creedons@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Sleeping Through Swindon Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 08:47:38 -0600 Hello all. Back in 1993, I had the luck to go to England on an Air Force excercise at a base about 15-20 miles north of Swindon. Unfortunately, when the Arkells brewerey invited us to tour their brewery in Swindon (a REAL BLAST) I had no idea that the brewery I was in was on holy ground. At that time, if someone was to mention XTC to me, I would have said , "you mean the one hit wonders who did Generals & Majors?" Anyway, after enlightenment happened when a coworker brought in Nonsvch to work back in 1995, I kicked myself for being so ignorant. Had I known what I know now, I would have spent alot of time in Swindon.
------------------------------ From: Melsta@aol.com Message-ID: <0.490c1b22.25681dfa@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:53:30 EST Subject: Re: tongue in cheek by jowl In a message dated 11/20/99 12:20:29 AM Central Standard Time, our very own dear misunderstood Debora writes: > From: brown <mb2@deltanet.com> > > a few digests back I made a feeble attempt at humor when I said: > > > to the coquettish Melissa > > la-tee-da, young missy! > > Melissa replied with: > > > I think you'll find I actually said people USED TO tell me I looked like > > Tina Weymouth. > Yes, I caught the USED TO. My tongue was firmly planted in cheek when I > chucked that one at you...absolutely no evil intent, I assure > you....actually I think your hair is quite lovely. > > Debora 'so misunderstood, sniff-sniff' Brown O Debs! Darling! I fear _I_ am the one whose attempts at humor have proved feeble! Why I swear I had nothing more in mind than to join your merry banter and add to it my own. Sadly it appears my good-natured jests have been taken for little more than petty jibes at the expense of a dear fellow Chalkmonger. Woe is me. Do write again and tell me that all is forgiven, for I shall never forgive myself, I'm sure! --Melissa "unquiet slumbers for this sleeper" Reaves
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Message-Id: <199911201605.LAA27745@nantucket.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:02:50 -0800
Subject: Rasberry Cremes
From: "Diamond" <arnos@nantucket.net>
Wow, I'm an idiot. I can't beleive what an idiot I am. I JUST realized the
joke in the title "Turkey Pluto" For this contest. Man, I feel like an
imbicile. (Although, I think a name like "Turkey Aphrodite would've been
better.)
On a much lighter note, IT'S MY BIRTHdAY!!! YEAH!! I'm 16 years old! I can
get my Drivers Permit!!! Yeah!!!
So, what'd you get me. What do you mean "nothing"? Well, see if I ever got
YOU anything on YOur birthday!!! Humph
Question for everyone. In "Senses Working Overtime" After the Black
Skies/Black Eyes/Black Ice part, after he sings "Very Very Beautiful..."
You can here Andy muttering something quitely. Does anyone know what he's
saying?
also, who likes the BBC version of "No Thugs In Our House" better then the
real version? I do.
On another note, tonight is my bands First GIG!!! In case you don't know,
my band is called
Leviathan Chihuahua
It's a two-person band that my best freind and I have created. It's very
They Might be Giants influenced, but my songs also have a little XTC in
them, and his songs have a little Oingo Boingo in them, and, ultimately, we
have our own kind of sound and It's real neat-o! We're playing three songs
tonight, because it's a small gig (It's actually just a coffee house, but
we're calling it a gig)
FIRST, a song of his, called Welcome To My Padded Cell
NEXT, a song of mine called In Your Oubliette (that's Ooo, Bleee, ette)
LAST, as song we wrote together called Prisoner Of Love
The last song, Prisoner of love, is a love song about a nazi. It's really
funny. here's an example of a lyric from it:
A love like ours is so unique
each flower that blooms is a swastika
wipe that frown right off your face
you and me , we're the masterrace
Oh, who could ask for more
baby, out of three reichs your four!
You like?? Please don't be offended, it's all in good fun (If not in good
taste)
Kevin Diamond
The Birthday Boy
In His Birthday Suit (Not Really)
P.S. Yes, that IS how I spell Rasberry in my dictionary, so there,
Plplplpppp!!!
____________________________________________________________________________
"To emphasize the afterlife is to deny life. To concentrate on heaven is to
create hell."
-Tom Robbins
------------------------------ Message-ID: <3836C9D0.EDAA5D6C@home.com> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:18:26 -0500 From: Mark Newberg <mhnewberg@home.com> Organization: @Home Network Subject: Eh wot? Speaking as someone who aspires to be a guest on the Jerry Springer television show show: my one toothed, one hair strategically combed over my head to make you think I have a full head of hair, T-shirt with gravy and blood stains wearing self respectfully informs the people of Chalkhills that sometimes I have a damn hard time understanding what is being said here. Could you good folks please take some stupid pills to reach my level? We are all not MENSA members you know. <Boy, that phlegm taste good. Wooey!! Get along doogie> XTC RULES MAN (YEAH!!!!!) <-----said in true headbanging fashion
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:21:46 -0500
From: maggie jungwirth <mmjungwi@facstaff.wisc.edu>
Subject: sextc
Davidoh stood up to be counted (that makes three of us?) who love "ICOH"
>when i first bought av1, i just couldn't get past 'greenman', no
matter how hard i tried. ...... i get chill-bumps when i hear the
strings swell underneath second reading of the line "like the swirling
sky", which is followed by that calming diminuendo.
also, the contrapuntal vocal lines near the end ("of all the things you've
got...") fits so well against the chorus lines. it truly is a beautiful
song.<
Yes, isn't it amazing the same guy who gave us "Roads Girdle the Globe!"
could give us this beautiful flower/sunset/orgasm/walk thru a dewey woods
of a song? (god-I guess my pagan preferences just came out) I'm glad
there's guys out there that like that song. I was thinking it might go
down as a token chic song.
While I'm still learning everybodys personalities/preferences here, I'm
guessing maybe John in Japan would like it while Dom would hate it, Molly
might like it... I wonder if there are gender preferences for various XTC
songs. While it's not good to generalize too much- what would be a total
guy song? "Train Running Low on Soul Coal"? ( hmmm...I like that one alot)
Womansong? (besides ICOH...) uhhh- "You're the Wish You Are I Had"?
While I understand our moderator thinks little of "lists and favorites"
discussions, I'd be interested in what appeals to male vs. female XTC
lovers. While I love A)their lyrics B)their music and C)Andy, I feel I
have one third more to love about them than (straight) guys. Seems many
guys on this list are musicians, and into their musicianship. I could be
wrong....
Mr. Lawson replied to me:
>I, on the other hand, do mean to make light of your discomfort at the word
>"cunt". It's a word. Get over it. You ****.
Thank you very much. DOMINIC LAWSON, ladies and gentlemen! (applause)
Maggie
*under mats of flower lava*
p.s. "Charlie Buck" is back and having a public snit/something with a
former friend...not again, please.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <00c401bf33cc$7dc264e0$6e5791d2@johnboud> From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: To turk or not to turk ... Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:18:02 +0900 Satanas El Diablo wrote : >Note about thanksgiving. Its a holiday that cellebrates the murder of the >turks. " There you go again " , Satanas . Thanksgiving is a public celebration in acknowledgment of divine favor ; not a " holiday that celebrates the murder of turks ( turkeys ) " . Now I know the word divine is not in your vocabulary , and I have no problem with that at all , some of my best friends are athiests , but by denigrating Thanksgiving you show once again - as you did with your little " joke " re: Christians killing you because of your alias - your apparent ignorance . ... >Also, the slaughter of Turkey's is SO bad this time of year. Other than for use as food , a turkey has absolutely no reason for existence on this planet . I myself do not eat much animal meat ; and do not miss a turkey sandwich ; but I must say that I have little sympathy for turkeys or chickens . They were put on this earth to be eaten by us - the smartest monkeys . Heck , some of my best friends eat meat on a daily basis !!!? > I will celebrate the holiday (as having dinner with the in-laws) but I >dont >cellebrate the meaning nor do I slaughter animals. You said Thanksgiving was " a holiday that celebrates the murder of turks " , and you " celebrate the holiday " with your in-laws ??? > No offence to non >vegetarians out there, but I mean, if I were to come on here and it was my >culture to eat dogs (I have Philipeno friends who actually do eat dogs, >though most dont!) I would have TONS of people saying I was disgusting >and would put me down for eating dogs, so, I have just as much right to >comment about Turkey. I hope your Philippino friends are in the Philippines and not America ! Domestic pets should not be on anyone's menu in the land of plenty . >One thing I would ask of all of you though is if you were to look at your >local market for "Tofurkey" you would be quite suprised at the taste! It >tastes just like Turkey. Remember, Spices are what makes the meat taste >good; its the preperation, not the actual food that tasts good. I eat fresh tofu every day in miso soup ; cold topped with soy sauce and dried bonito flakes ; or prepared in various other ways . I love it ; but there is no way it is going to taste just like turkey ( and a good thing too ! ) . >Go to >Jack and the Box or Taco Bell and you will know what I mean, tastes more >like shit to me! What is a vegetarian ( you alluded to the fact you are a vegetarian when you said " no offence to non-vegetarians out there ... " ) doing sampling the culinary delights of Jack InThe Box and Taco Bell ? Perhaps the " shit " they serve their was your impetus for becoming a vegetarian ? If so , I understand . Satanas , you really do ASK for it . Even your friend Charlie Buck is dis-owning you : >HiHo, >I'm hereby distancing myself from any former or latter relationships with >the denamed Satanas Diablo. Nuff said ... Also ... Mr. Kimball wrote : >I do not dream about XTC, or Andy, or Colin, or Dave...>In fact the only celebrity dream I can recall involved Midnight Oil. I >think I grew out of that once I discovered they were born-again >Christians. Over the years I have had several dreams starring one of my fave writers William Burroughs , who was an avowed athiest . Mattered not one iota to me . Did you stop listening to Midnight Oil's music , too ? I still read Bill ... and Jack ... and Allen ... XTC content - My offer to procure the Ltd. Edition Japanese Homespun for list members still stands , assuming it is still available . $ 35 inc. Air Mail postage . John in Sushiland
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