Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 317
Date: Monday, 22 November 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 317
Monday, 22 November 1999
Today's Topics:
Re: Chalkhills
Happened Like This
re: the "greenman" cd-single...and other "goodies!!"
Re: Sacre Diablo
Bird Nut
Snapple Penis
Wes Responds to Wes
Meet Me on the Other Side
Dobbyn Is My Horse's Name
Chirpy Charlie & The Oubliette That Ate Noo Yawk
Sleepless In Swindon
Martin Newell / Cleaners from Venus releases
X-Mas time
speaking of off-topic...
Re: apology and declaration
ICOH
To turk or not to turk: Truth Revealed
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19991121024127.0070d590@mail.interlog.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:41:27 -0500 From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com> Subject: Re: Chalkhills i dunno, i think i'm a little confused... is it me, or has this digest gotten just a little bit weird lately? how 'bout a lot weird? there's something about the past few digests has left me wondering; just what the hell is going on in here? perplexed in toronto... davidoh
------------------------------ Message-ID: <3837F968.90B16117@which.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:53:44 +0000 From: B Blanchard <b.blanchard@which.net> Subject: Happened Like This Dear all, Thanks for everyone for the suggestions of XTC songs to accompany the play I wrote and appeared in last Thursday. Philip Lawes, please don't ask me to stand up naked and grin, in any given room I would be the only one grinning, trust me. Anyway, so the play went well (Thursday 18th November at Battersea, South London) and I asked the sound/lighting guy to play I Can't Own Her, as it was a tie between that and The Ugly Underneath, and my director liked the mood set of I Can't Own Her. So as everyone came in to the theatre the SoundMan lost concentration for a split second and the whole of Harvest Festival was played instead. Please don't tell anyone because - no, we couldn't afford to pay ourselves let alone pay royalties. Oh Well, That's This Play Over. Off to NZ a week today, unsubscribing this week, have a great time everyone and yadda yadda blah. BELINDA BLANCHARD
------------------------------ Message-ID: <38383BB8.3E52@schoollink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:36:40 -0800 From: Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> Organization: CIC Subject: re: the "greenman" cd-single...and other "goodies!!" saw in a recent issue of goldmine where a guy named david tyson is offering the "greenman" single on cd for only $3. his info is -- 106 greene lane summerville, sc 29485 e-mail: dtyson@viperlink.net tel: 843.821.1514 does this mean that this single actually does exist??? would love to have it! (big sigh) this is definitely worth looking into, i feel. i also saw where a guy named mike boyle is offering the following lps for $6 a piece: "mummer" "skylarking" (w/ "dear god") "oranges & lemons" (2 lps) ...and for only $5 a piece, he's got these: "go 2" "5 senses" (ep) "the big express" his info is -- po box 592 north bellmore, ny 11710 no e-mail or phone no. xtc fans unite!! buy these things, okay? spread the word! xtc rule!!! -- /Dan and Ginger Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> "Everywhere you look, you release parts of your senses." (Jon Anderson)
------------------------------ Message-Id: <l03130300b45c5c008a83@[208.13.202.108]> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:39:15 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Re: Sacre Diablo >>>I have had some good communication with Wes, other than that, every >one either ignored my posts or sends the same old harassing emails that I >have been trying to ignore. > >There there...mummy kiss it better. Honestly, I wouldn't take it personally! >A large proportion of what appears on Chalkhills is "ignored" and no one has >a divine right to be the centre of attention. Sometimes you have to earn >people's interest by contributing something intriguing, funny or (in my >case) stupid, rather than the somewhat banal posts you've sent in so far (no >offence!). Also, since you appeared with both guns blazing we've been >expecting something incendiary and controversial from you. Instead we get >"ooh, anyone got any demos?" type stuff, which might raise a few responses >in more barren times but thankfully the list is looking a little perkier at >the moment. > >As for your request for demos & stuff - I'm sure there are numerous people >here who would be willing to oblige, but don't be so impatient! Some of us >have jobs and, bizarrely, better things to do, so you really can't expect an >immediate and overwhelming response. I joined this list four years ago because of an interest in XTC(and having newly discovered the Internet I thought- hey, I'll join some mailing lists). At first I made the mistake of making shoot-from-the-hip statements partly from wanting attention and partly typing without thinking. Well, I got the attention, and when you get attention from an ill-considered statement it usually isn't what you wanted. These days I consider my responses a lot more carefully, but not because I give a rat's ass what anyone thinks of what I have on my mind(I don't), but because I want to make sure before I send something else is this what I really want to say, and is this the hill I want to die on? Usually it isn't. So these days I get "ignored" a lot more than I used to, and I like it fine that way. I like a heated intellectual discussion as much as anybody, but I try not to say anything to anyone that I wouldn't say to their face at a party. I find the most interesting people on this list have figured this out and they say what they want to say and aren't trying to get attention, they're just being themselves. By being themselves they get attention and interest. There was one guy on another list I'm on who provides a cautionary example, he would keep going on about the time he served in Vietnam and had a few other idee fixes that he would keep coming back to that had little to do with the subject of the list, and when others would try to change the subject and bring it back on topic he would accuse us of censoring him. Eventually a few of us, myself included, politely read him the riot act and informed him officially what the subject of the list was, and if he didn't like that maybe he was on the wrong list, and I couldn't resist observing I had several friends who were veterans and that unlike him they knew their manners. Well, I got the worst torrent of e-mail abuse I've ever received on a public e-mail list from this guy as a result of that, beginning with him accusing me of not knowing a single veteran and making it all up and being a pinko-ass liberal(moi? I'm a libertarian myself!)and getting steadily worse from there. Fortunately one of the other victims of his abuse said "Well, as a matter of fact Mr _____, I'm a former marine, and several others on this list have served in the armed forces as well." Haven't heard from the guy since. The point being, when someone makes an idiot of themselves, kill them with reasonableness and show them up. If it's an ill-considered moment from an otherwise reasonable person, it'll blow over; a true bully and blowhard will just slink away when embarassed. So, Mr Diablo, I'll assume you want to fit in; a word to the wise, just don't try to get a rise out of anybody, it doesn't work. If you want to talk, just talk, that's what we're here for, and if nobody responds, you're not being ignored, we just couldn't think of something equally brilliant to say in response, or maybe we're just being polite. Christopher R. Coolidge Homepage at http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html "A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10 GREAT laws. A Good law protects me from you. Laws against murder, theft, assault and the like are good laws. A Poor law attempts to protect me from myself." - Unknown
------------------------------ Message-ID: <005a01bf3446$74e6c8a0$3afda68e@stimobileone> From: "Greg Abrams" <abrams@nb.aibn.com> Subject: Bird Nut Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:32:58 -0500 Bird Nut So I'm eatin' the bird Eatin' the bird Well I've got to have a napkin A man must wear a bib to keep him clean Stuffing my face Stuffing my face Got to have a bit of gravy I stain my clothing But the wife don't complain Some people say That I'm a slob and a half Or just a cranberry fool Some day they'll see Til then I'll throw you a drumstick Cause white meat's The stuff for me So I'm raiding the fridge Raiding the fridge Got to have a little sandwich Just steal a little bit >From off of the rack Some people say That I'm a slob and half Or just a cranberry fool Some day they'll see Til then I'll throw you a drumstick Cause white meat's The stuff for me So I'm eatin' the bird Eatin' the bird Well I've got to have a napkin A man must wear a bib To keep him clean Keep him clean Yeah, to keep him clean Greg Abrams abrams@nb.aibn,com
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991121194256.8145.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Amanda Owens" <daveizgod@hotmail.com> Subject: Snapple Penis Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:42:55 CST Snapping out of delurk mode for just a moment....... >You And The Clouds XTC >u + da clowdz David Oh Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! >We're All Light XTC >You're All C*nts Dom Lawson Oh I'm sure Andy would love to hear that one. >Standing In For Joe XTC >Andy's On My Phone Mitch Freidman ROTFLMGDMFAO!!!!! >Church of Women XTC >Church of Dave Amanda Owens Ahhhh.....yes indeedydoo! BTW-Anyone interested, there's a very cute picture of Dave and Barry up on Guitargonauts. Dave's wearing a Cartman shirt I gave him for...Christmas, I think...either that or his birthday..... >I'm The Man Who XTC >Murdered Love > >I'm The Man Who John Relph >Killed This Thread And you'd better not do it, Relph!!!!! Tis all for now, Amanda C. Owens "Hey....I beeped....and they felt me up with that little thing, it was good!"-AJ McLean XTC song of the day-Harvest Festival non-XTC song-I Saw the Light-Lori Carson
------------------------------ From: WWi8064839@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1f06430d.2569b6d1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:57:53 EST Subject: Wes Responds to Wes In the last issue of Chalkhills, Wes Hanks wrote: >While everyone else in school (1980) was listening to Pink Floyd's "The >Wall", (I) listened non-stop to "London Calling". And Wes Wilson thus responds: I actually had both RECORDS. And I listened to "London Calling" far more than I did "The Wall." I felt the latter was boring, and as a poor college student wished I had spent my money on something else. Oh shit! Why did I ever sell all of the cool vinyl I owned? I remember now. It was to pay for the final semesters of state college. Gawddamnit! Thus, on vinyl I no longer have any Clash. Or Elvis Costello. Pistols. Vibrators. Richard Hell and the Voidoids. (He lets out a sigh as he wonders where the years have gone, and lights a cigarette in his dimly lit room.) I had it all. I once had The Jam's "This is The Modern World" on vinyl. I once had a great mod album called "The Low Numbers." I'll never hear that great track from that album called "The Prom Bombed." I had a lot of punk/new wave stuff, on colored vinyl. All gone, all sold, except for some 7'' (including such gems as "Ca Plane Pour Moi" by Plastic Bertrand and "Dreaming" by Blondie. All in wonderfully imperfect, substandard vinyl, like the kind you'd use to make black pocket combs). I see that some of these albums have been re-released. But the moment has passed. So, as I climb the stairs of the subway toward the light, I see the leather-jacketed punks, some of whom remind me of friends I used to have in college. And I want to say something to them sometime. "Et tu, Sid and Nancy?" But I won't rock no boats. Wes
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v03007800b45e14b38317@[165.121.66.116]> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:35:38 -0500 From: Mitch Friedman <mitchf@mindspring.com> Subject: Meet Me on the Other Side Yello, It's that time of the month/year/decade/century again. I'd like to announce the release of "Meet Me on the Other Side" -- a cd compiling songs written specifically for and about the new millennium. It's compiled by Toby Thomas (who I believe may be Chalkhillian) and features songs in a variety of styles and genres. Everything from rock to pop to dreamy instrumentals and everything in between. Fellow Chalkhillbillies Jim Smart, Becki di Gregorio and yours truly are all represented on the disc. Take a gander over to www.silvermoonmusic.com and check it out. You can also hear my song "When I Was Your Age" on www.mp3.com/mitchfriedman and Jim Smart's title track "The Other Side" at www.mp3.com/3Tripper Enjoy! Mitch p.s. Totally off the subject, I highly recommend the new film "Being John Malkovich". It's unusual, very creative and funny . . . much like XTC.
------------------------------ From: Iain.Murray.70428176@army.defence.gov.au Message-Id: <4A256830.00782B45.00@stagemaster.army.defence.gov.au> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:19:53 +1000 Subject: Dobbyn Is My Horse's Name >>From: Sebastien Maury 02 9950 3315 <maury.sebastien@a2.abc.net.au> >>Subject: Nihon shuffle >>Dave Dobbyn. Now there's a name to conjure with (OK, OK Mr P Dant, "with >>which to conjure"). <snip> I now own 3 albums and >>recommend them (Lament for the Numb and Twist are the other 2) with most >>of my heart (keeping something for myself for that blood pumping function >>it seems to perform so well) I haven't heard any of Dave Dobbyn's solo stuff (aside from "Slice Of Heaven", of course), but DD Smash is also to be recommended. Find a copy of "The Optimist" - in Australia, at least, Mushroom Records have re-issued this for about $A10 on CD. >>From: travis schulz <xtcisadarngoodband@yahoo.com> >>Subject: Know It Sounds Weird... >>On a better topic.....1999 is almost >>done, and I wouldn't mind seeing everybody's top ten >>list of favorite albums of 1999. Sweet Lord, no! You said the L-word!!! Screw it - since you've asked (and this *is* in order) : 1. "Mule Variations" - Tom Waits 2. "Mock Tudor" - Richard Thompson 3. "Bellavista Terrace" - The Go-Betweens (okay, it's a best-of.....) 4. "Apple Venus, Volume 1" - XTC 5. "The Unauthorised Biography Of Reinhold Messner" - Ben Folds Five 6. "The Long Weekend" - Chris Wilson (technically late 1998, but there you are) 7. "Utopia Parkway" - Fountains Of Wayne 8. "Testing Friends (demo)" - fellow Auschalker Chris Chapman 9. "Smoke" - Paul Kelly 10. "Art" - Regurgitator >>From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> >>Subject: Slept through Swindon ? >>Now , how can any self-respecting XTC fan go all the to England , and >>actually pass through Swindon without stopping for a look ' round ? I ask >>you ! While I was in England in September/October, I went to Swindon. Everything was shut, but I *did* get a photo of Andy's house - I would have taken two, but he came outside and told me to piss off. Okay, that last bit didn't actually happen..... >>From: Dave.Wilson@bhint.com >>Subject: Unplugged >>I saw the Mojo article about XTC earlier in the year, and it appeared >>to have a photograph of XTC on an Unplugged stage. Have they ever >>appeared on Unplugged? If so, what did they play, and - moreover - >>can I get hold of a bootleg copy? I think that would have been during their Oranges & Lemons radio tour. As for the exact venue where that photo was taken......Mark? Mitch? >>From: Lawson Dominic <LawsonD@parliament.uk> >>Subject: Machine Dom Etiquette >> Now >>I live in Brighton, as does Captain Sensible. Spooky. Brighton Beach was one of many highlights of my trip (that and the whacking great Taj Mahal ripoff in the town centre - I actually drove straight past it the first time, 'cause I was trying to find my way to the railway station and was silly enough to be following the signs that said 'Railway Station'). While I was there, I should have been looking out for people who could fit the description "stinky longhair" - if only I'd known..... Iain
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991122005600.16782.rocketmail@web1706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:56:00 +1100 (EST) From: Mud Shark <mudshark1944@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Chirpy Charlie & The Oubliette That Ate Noo Yawk Submitted for your consideration : the crazed ramblings of a diseased mind..... > From: "David Seddon" <D.Seddon@btinternet.com> > Subject: Song of the Millennium > > What an amazing list we have being put forward in > the media about this: > > Come on you voters...get real ! > Me, I'm going for Lily the Pink (second choice, > Rawhide). Have you forgotten "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep"? For goodness' sakes, it was the defining moment of a generation! > I'd love to see the Queen bringing in the next > Millennium with that playing > in the background! Or how about the Sex Pistols' "God Save The Queen"? > From: Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com> > Subject: Charlie Buck. > > Stop emailing me > with the drama and get on with your lives. This > only aplies to the > assholes emailing me (bad stuff!) and the people > pretentding to be > other people. This is probably as good a time as any to make a confession : I'm actually Lord Lucan, and not a mud shark at all. I'm sorry if anyone was deceived by my cunning ruse - I hereby banish myself from the list until such time as I can get myself officially declared alive again so I can get my stuff back. > Subject: Rasberry Cremes > From: "Diamond" <arnos@nantucket.net> > > On another note, tonight is my bands First GIG!!! In > case you don't know, > my band is called > Leviathan Chihuahua <snip> > NEXT, a song of mine called In Your Oubliette > (that's Ooo, Bleee, ette) Now *there's* a word I never thought I'd see on a music mailing list (unless Chris de Burgh was under discussion - I'm sure they would have had at least one oubliette in those castles he sang about. It's just a shame he didn't get locked in one). > P.S. Yes, that IS how I spell Rasberry in my > dictionary, so there, > Plplplpppp!!! Just checking (happy birthday, by the way). MS (aka Lord Lucan, Greg Norman, that flabby bastard, etc.) ===== "I rail against God because I was told to stop eating paste in Sunday school" - P.J.O'Rourke
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From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:21:09 +0100
Subject: Sleepless In Swindon
Message-Id: <19991121231933.2D01BA6CDF@mail.knoware.nl>
Dear Chalkers,
> > Now , how can any self-respecting XTC fan go all the to England ,
> > and actually pass through Swindon without stopping for a look '
> > round ? I ask you !
indeed!
you should have least paid a visit to old Horsey in Uffington, an
truly awesome sight and site for everybody, not just the XTC-minded
> Well, it _is_ Swindon, after all...
Heresy, go wash your mouth with carbolic soap, you.. you... you
infidel!!
Imagine yourself asleep in a car passing through Swindon.
You get stuck in traffic and Andy walks by on the sidewalk, casting a
curious glance at a guy who is snoring loudly in the backseat of a
car. Your car. By the time your driver has said: "Hey man, quick!
Look, there's that XTC dude you are always on about" Andy has
already passed a corner, out of sight.
yours in xtc,
Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
or http://come.to/xtc
------------------------------ Message-ID: <Xgy$2AA1aJO4Ew54@apowell.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 01:04:53 +0000 From: Ashley Powell <ashley@apowell.demon.co.uk> Subject: Martin Newell / Cleaners from Venus releases Jarmusic has just released the latest cassette-to-CD release, "In the Golden Autumn". A limited number are available. "Blow Away Your Troubles" will follow shortly. Also, Martin will be releasing a new book in December. For more details: http://go.to/martinnewell to buy this or any other Newell/Cleaners release: http://go.to/jarmusic -- Ashley Powell
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From: OMBEAN1@aol.com
Message-ID: <0.6162ff76.256a117c@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:24:44 EST
Subject: X-Mas time
Chalkies.
"Thanks for Christmas " is now on rotation at all Home Depots.
If you get a chance, watch the Weird Al concert on VH1. He does an
outstanding song about Jerry Springer done to the tune of "One Week" from
Bare Naked Ladies. Besides his creative writing,his band is very tight. An
excellent show.
That'll do Pig, Roger
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991122040414.88251.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com> Subject: speaking of off-topic... Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:04:13 CST okay, okay, *far* be it from me to complain about off-topic, but that really probably isn't what I'm doing... Satanas Diablo spaketh the word of the righteous-- >Note about thanksgiving. Its a holiday that cellebrates the murder of the >turks. The concept of white people and indians sitting eating at a picnic >table is about as true as the story that Columbus discovered Amerikkka. >Also, the slaughter of Turkey's is SO bad this time of year. I will >celebrate the holiday (as having dinner with the in-laws) but I dont >cellebrate the meaning nor do I slaughter animals. No offence to non >vegetarians out there, but I mean, if I were to come on here and it was my >culture to eat dogs (I have Philipeno friends who actually do eat dogs, >though most dont!) I would have TONS of people saying I was disgusting >and would put me down for eating dogs, so, I have just as much right to >comment about Turkey. Please...don't. Don't assume my tastes. Don't assume that I like being preached to. Don't assume that I'm dull and that I haven't thought about the arguments you make. Just don't. (Sorry about this-- I'm touchy about proselytizing of any kind, whether it regards my faith, my eating habits, anything, even when on issues I agree with, and especially in a forum where it does not belong and was not asked for.) hm, I want to lighten this up a bit (I hate being serious on here, it seems so ridiculous...)-- when I was 12 I had a dream that Andy Partridge and I went to Club MTV. Then he shrunk down to about a foot tall and got into a large aquarium and waved at me from the inside.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19991122003843.0070db10@mail.interlog.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:38:43 -0500 From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com> Subject: Re: apology and declaration From: unna@worldmailer.com Subject: apology and declaration I feel like a jerk. I don't want to fight! I was snippy in my last post to DavidOh. I hate being snippy! DavidOh, I'm sorry, man. There's just a simple miscommunication going on, and I'll bet it's my fault. Please accept my apology for being so reactionary. I feel like being a jerk here, in Chalkhills, is kind of like being a jerk in paradise. Laura ---------- i wasn't apportioning blame, i was simply stating that, sometimes, when we say something in a textual forum such as this, it can be difficult to understand the context in which it was intended. a little clarity is all it takes. i don't want to fight either (_way_ too much of that in here lately!), i don't think you're a jerk, your apology is accepted (although, really, unnecessary), so now let's move on and enjoy the music of xtc. ok? peace & xtc, davidoh
------------------------------ Message-ID: <006d01bf34c4$ce988680$7c5791d2@johnboud> From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: ICOH Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:08:48 +0900 Maggie Jungworth wrote re: ICOH : >While I'm still learning everybodys personalities/preferences here, I'm >guessing maybe John in Japan would like it while Dom would hate it, Molly >might like it... Your guess was correct , Maggie . ICOH is one of my fave tracks on AV1 .
------------------------------ Message-ID: <389499287.943261474752.JavaMail.root@web20.pub01> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 04:04:34 -0500 (EST) From: Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com> Subject: To turk or not to turk: Truth Revealed You wronte: " There you go again " , Satanas . Thanksgiving is a public celebration in acknowledgment of divine favor ; not a " holiday that celebrates the murder of turks ( turkeys ) " . And I say: I did not say turkeys, I said TURKS! Learn some history, then come back with an intellegent response. You wronte: Now I know the word divine is not in your vocabulary And I say: Oh, so now your god, as you have the ability to say what is and is not in my vocabulary? Not very Christian of you! You wrote: as you did with your little " joke " re: Christians killing you because of your alias - your apparent ignorance . And I say: That was Andy's Comment from the book Song Stories, as I have said this 5 times before! I was making a joke in reference to the book!!! Who are the people that bomb abortion clinics anyway? Never once heard of an athiest doing that!!! You wrote: Other than for use as food , a turkey has absolutely no reason for existence on this planet And I say: You are right! That is why man should nor reproduce turkeys for mans own selfish impulses! You wrote: They were put on this earth to be eaten by us - the smartest monkeys . And I say: Oh, so your God now? You determin who is the "smartest Monkey?" How are you mesuring this data? You wrote: You said Thanksgiving was " a holiday that celebrates the murder of turks " , and you " celebrate the holiday " with your in-laws ??? And I say: Millions of people cellebrate Xmas though they are not Christians! (in reality, Xmas is a Pegan holiday actually). I cellebrate eating a table with family, not the meaning! You wrote: I hope your Philippino friends are in the Philippines and not America ! Domestic pets should not be on anyone's menu in the land of plenty. And I say: No, they live in the US, and they have every right as you to eat what they eat! Its completly legal as long as its in their culture! Its also legal to sacrifice animals for spiritaul rituals! So, how come all of a sudden its wrong they eat dogs but its ok to eat other animals?! Many people have pigs as pets, so whats wrong with eating them? Or horses, or rabbits? Your argument is whats called a "Slippery Slope" You wrote: >there is no way it is going to taste just like turkey ( and a good thing too ! ) . And I say: Its still good, and its better on the environment and our bodies! How much land and water is waisted on Live Stock? Really, reseach this and you will be quite suprised to learn the statistics. Dont take my word for it, see for your self. You do know how to do reserch dont you? And You so gracefully wrote: What is a vegetarian ( you alluded to the fact you are a vegetarian when you said " no offence to non-vegetarians out there ... " ) doing sampling the culinary delights of Jack InThe Box and Taco Bell ? And I say: Just because I am vegetarian, does not mean I was my whole life. If you would like to know, I became vegetarian after working at my college at a burger place. So, I saw what goes on and it disgusted me. In good Christian Faith and Spirit, while walking in the likes of Jesus you so religiously said: Satanas , you really do ASK for it . Even your friend Charlie Buck is dis-owning you : And I say: Wow, that was fair, bring up that in an argument! If it were true, I would really be hurt (is that how Christians are supposed to treat others?) But since its not, and Malcolm is my closest friend and employee, I means nothing. Lastly I say: Seek your argument furthur. If your a Christian, than act like it. When I was a Christian (yes I ate meat and was even a Christian!) I was really a Christian. I did not try to put people down while holding up my belief in god. Its people like you though that I must thank really. Its because of you I was enlightened to see the truth. Thanks!
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