Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 71
Date: Thursday, 28 January 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 71
Thursday, 28 January 1999
Today's Topics:
Visiting Swindon / Uffington White Horse
Screaming "Single single" / plug ugly
Re: This World Over
Bum Rush
Pre order AV at Music Boulevard....use $10 off coupon...
Why do animals strike curious poses?
This is just silly: scroll down
What a lark!
XTSweepstake
Chat
AV1 release date, Raygun
Done It Again
Freudian Mind-slip
Guitar guesswork
LMNOP
you gotta love imports...
Dave and the girls
get over it, already!
SPIN's online interview with Partsy, Pt. 1
My Dictionary vs Bloody poop bags
Road map of Swindon/Uffington online
The C@ Sh@ On The M@
Snobs here?
More Than Coincidence? You Decide.
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <36AC4496.C7458A19@lucent.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:16:54 +0000 From: JP Nicholls <nicholls@lucent.com> Organization: It came off in my hand, Mum! Subject: Visiting Swindon / Uffington White Horse Chalkhills / Melissa - A day trip to Swindon and Uffington from London is easily arranged! A visit to Uffington is highly recommended - it's a beautiful place. Costs and times of trains in the UK are extremely erratic. Service is unreliable - unpredictable delays are the norm. However, when they work well, travelling by train is smooth and a great way to see the countryside (if you are lucky and the windows are clean). As you come in to Swindon from London on the train, you will pass the Uffington White Horse - the excitement mounts! Cost of train from London Paddington to Swindon is presently 26.50 UKP return assuming off-peak travel both ways. Trains are frequent, the journey SHOULD take about 45 minutes. When you get to the UK phone 0345-484950 for more up-to-date information on train times/prices. Swindon bus station is 5 minutes from the train station and clearly signposted. The bus to Uffington is the 47A and leaves from Bay 10. On Saturdays there are three buses a day, 9.35am, 13.35pm and 15.35pm; the journey takes about an hour. Buses leave Uffington for Swindon at 10.25am, 14.25pm and 16.25pm. Cost is 1.60 UKP each way. Phone 01793-428428 for more information on bus times/prices. If you're staying in town I recommend the Goddard Arms Hotel (not cheap), an old coaching inn with great history and 10 minutes from AP's house! If you are making a day trip from London trains run early and late between London and Swindon so you can definitely fit it all in. There's not really much to see in Swindon - the Railway Museum is the high point, but the Lode Star isn't there any more. Get in touch nearer the time and I will recommend some suitable hostelries in which to celebrate your spiritual journey! -- JP Nicholls / nicholls@lucent.com "Someone take these dreams away"
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36AC4503.496909B7@seditasc.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:18:43 +0000 From: Colin Seditas <cseditas@seditasc.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Screaming "Single single" / plug ugly I've been hearing talk about radio stations playing "I'd like that". On hearing the demos once or twice, "Your Dictionary" was screaming out for airplay. Not that I think that it is the greatest song, but it is so memorable. Add to that the instant outrage it would cause with some fundamentalists in the States and.... it'd be the big time!!! Surely attention is good. I don't think they need to bother doing 'the single thang', but if they were going to 'push' a particular song for stations to play, "Dictionary" seems the one to me. Whatever they do, I hope they don't use pictures of themselves to promote the album. The only good pictures of them are "The Dukes" ones, and that's becuase you can't really see them. Heading my top ten of plug ugly promos has to be the picture of them that was (somewhere) on the BE sleeve. I don't care what they look like, but some record buyers might. Wouldn't want to scare anyone off, would we? I'm starting to dribble in anticipation. Colin S.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:03:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Clee <cmc@sanger.ac.uk> Subject: Re: This World Over Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.00.9901251355420.14391-100000@piranha> "Amanda Owens" <daveizgod@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Quick note to Chris Clee: Sorry medear, I take Dave's word as well as my > own ears on Transistor Blast's version of This World Over. I am a > nitpicker when it comes to my music and I can hear the subtlest of > nuances in different versions of music. I hear no such thing when > comparing TBE and TB versions. Besides which, if I'm not mistaken, Mitch > said that Andy doesn't hear any difference either. It's the same > version, with the exception of Andy's a capella singing at the > beginning. sorry dear, but you need to clean the wax out of your ears.......i went to sleep to this track for 3 years solid(always letting the final notes ring out of course before drifting off).......the record didn't come off the turntable fo over a year...new version is crisper and faster and the guitar background towards the end is not the same, reckon i've probably heard this track more than any other ....including paper tigers by the Chameleons (2nd best tack ever written)......it ain't the same and my ears can tell the diff, ttfn chris
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990125151251.3753.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Amanda Owens" <daveizgod@hotmail.com> Subject: Bum Rush Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:12:50 PST And we have the usual band of reponses for today's show: Ken said: >Rush Limbaugh---Oh-kay. So if Hitler had a radio show and he used >"Generals and Majors" as a bumper...oh never mind. Kinda moot considering he's uh....dead. >I am so disappointed >in you people. (Amanda sniffles sorrowfully and blows her nose on Clinton's State of the Union address.) BUT >since some of you people have come out with your love for old fashioned >bigotry and prejudice wrapped up in homespun country aw-shucks demeanor, >a price must be paid. (Amanda stifles a yawn.) >Suck on that dittoheads. (Slurp!) >I gotta go. I hear there's a KKK rally coming >up. Normally I wouldn't go but I hear that someone there might sing >"Yacht Dance". (Amanda titters and shakes her head.) My dear boy, potshots don't work on Chalkhills other than to make you look like a dweeb. >All apologies, Unacceptable. The illustrious Dominic Lawson said: >>>again, i really laft me arse off! great 2 c humour 4 a change! > >L-A-F-T >Is that how you spell 'laughed' in your dictionary? Well, your dictionary's >shite. I think I'm going to send DavidOh a complete Hooked on Phonics set for his next birthday. (BTW-LMFAO at the witty comeback. Two points for you!) Tis all for now, Amanda C. Owens "People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with welcome written on it."-Andy Partridge XTC song of the day-Traffic Light Rock non-XTC song of the day-Kenny's Dead-Master P. PS-Holger, the money is coming ASAP! My new job hasn't afforded me as much fundage as I thought it would, so try to be patient!
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36ACA198.469D@dpc.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:53:44 -0600 From: Scott Anderson <scandcar@dpc.net> Subject: Pre order AV at Music Boulevard....use $10 off coupon... Hello all, Music Boulevard is now taking advance orders for AV! There price is $US12.88....using this $10 dollar off coupon... http://www.musicblvd.com/1048AL/ ...I was able to reserve one for less than six bucks shipped! Hope this is usefull to someone...Scott. (I dont work for MB...but have had success using them as a customer)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000601be4884$f979e1f0$f06dcec0@t24806009694.DOA.STATE.LA.US> From: "John Voorhees" <griffon@earthling.net> Subject: Why do animals strike curious poses? Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:05:56 -0600 Jason Hauser was curious (and so were the animals) > "Animals strike curious poses" - Prince (but why?) Well, because they feel the heat, the heat between me and you. Stating the obvious, John Voorhees
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s6ac6248.024@dineout.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:23:21 -0500 From: "Jason Hauser" <JHAUSER@dineout.org> Subject: This is just silly: scroll down Someone mentioned band names (not real): Burlesquatch Spilly Thursday Throatculture Leo Buscaglia's Inferno The Easily Offended Tepid Sasketchewan (sp?) Persnickity Huggy Bear Flibble Dee Floo and so on... "A certain sensation has overcome me, I appear to be tripping the light fantastic on the structure overhead." - Lionel Richie (the model for HR Puf 'N Stuf)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000c01be4888$0b9970f0$f06dcec0@t24806009694.DOA.STATE.LA.US> From: "John Voorhees" <griffon@earthling.net> Subject: What a lark! Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:27:55 -0600 Just for a quick distraction from AV and DaveOh (lay off, people!) one of the recent posts reminded me of the great esthetic question - Does Skylarking suck with Dear God on it? For me the answer is certainly not... erroneously or not, I see the American version of the album as a brilliant, cyclical, concept work, and DG's (_not_ Dave Gregory) place between The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul and Dying is a critical connection in that picture. A move from the search for cosmic meaning to denying any spirtualism in the world (Flesh, blood and bone is everything) to those opening chords of DG and a scathing credo, followed by a stark image of mortality, no final reward, nothing but the dewdrop hanging off your nose "shriveled up and blue". All these negative thoughts are purged in the Sacrificial Bonfire that follows, and brings the listener back to sheer pagan innocence on Side 1 (yeah, I'm assuming vinyl, you wanna make something of it?) as we drown in Summer's Cauldron. Yet I adore Mermaid's Smile... I just have difficulty putting it into what I see as a flawless sequence. The theme certainly works for the album, innocence to experience, that sort of thing... but where does it belong? And I don't just mean where was it originally placed on the album, but does it really "go" there, and why? I always have trouble with including album sequence in my appreciation of a record, which means that Mermaid Smiled on Rag and Bone inevitably ends up linked in my skull with "BaBAABaBaaaaaBaaaBaBaaaa(RUNArowwndRUNArowwndRUNArowwnd)" Can I get some counseling for this problem. please?
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Message-Id: <199901251916.UAA03923@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:26:20 +0000
Subject: XTSweepstake
Dear Chalkers,
Here's your chance to win!
Today is was hanging on my couch after a long gruelling day at the
office. Zapping through the TV channels, I discovered a segment
about our national broadcasting corporation's phonographic archives
The presenter was sitting on the floor, surrounded by heaps of album
covers that were obviously selected for their curiosity value.
Needless to say one particular sleeve immediately drew my
attention...
Now, can you tell me which XTC album cover was used on this segment
and perhaps also why?
The first one to write to me at mmello@knoware.nl with the correct
answer will receive a small but nevertheless quite fabulous prize.
(nudge nudge, wink wink)
If two or more correct answers reach me simultaneously the most
eloquent, well written and witty answer will win, and i'll be the
judge and my decision will be final.
yours in xtc,
Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
or http://come.to/xtc
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990125194606.4685.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Molly Fanton" <mollyfa@hotmail.com> Subject: Chat Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:46:03 PST I can't get that Yahoo chat thing to work. I've tried using it, but I don't have Java. Couldn't we have a chat on IRC? If you don't have IRC it's easy to download it. Just got to http://www.mirc.co.uk (for PC users), I'm not sure how to get the Mac equivalient. I love IRC. I would suggest AOL, but I know a lot of you don't have AOL, so I won't suggest it. How do people think about an IRC chat? Molly <<Yes - an underused resource at our disposal is the designated XTC "Club" room provided by the folks at Yahoo. http://clubs.yahoo.com/xtcenglandsglory It is capable to handle real time chat across all continents. There is a brief, yet painful one time registration needed. Suggest two listening parties, since it appears that cooking vinyl will be releasing AV1 prior to TVT's US release. Any confirmation from Pony Canyon? Feb 23 - time?: all flippin day, cats Mar 2 - ditto >>
------------------------------ Message-ID: <001901be48ac$6e9b5140$a3f9a7cf@mroden.vistar.ca> From: "Michael Roden" <mroden@vistar.ca> Subject: AV1 release date, Raygun Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:48:13 -0500 Hi Chalkers, The Wall of Sound website lists March 2 as the release date for AV1. The thought of waiting another 2 weeks more for this event is depressing. http://wallofsound.go.com/releasedates/index.html#xtc I wish that Andy had kept his mouth shut about Dave in that Raygun article. Even if they parted on not-so-great terms, Dave gave nearly 20 years of his musical life, heart and soul, to XTC. That deserves the utmost respect. I hope that Andy doesn't air any more dirty laundry like that. Michael
------------------------------ From: "Michael Versaci" <stormymonday@sprintmail.com> Subject: Done It Again Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:50:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be48ac$c4757780$04a31e26@laptop-mversaci.mtwconsulting.com> Folxtc, The truly privileged Mitch Friedman related: >He told me that his favorite guitar solo of all time is in the Steely Dan >song "Do It Again". Listen to it and (according to Dave) you'll hear the >inspiration for the solo in "Real By Reel". Listen to the solo in "Your Gold Dress" for more information on the subject. I've mentioned this before, but also try "The World is Full of Angry Young Men" to hear XTC do Steely Dan justice, circa "Katy Lied". The guitar solo could easily have been Walter Becker. My guess is that it is Dave, but "Song Stories" doesn't say. XTC is great with or without Dave Gregory. Dave Gregory is great with or without XTC. Day Video Eye wood con cur width n oh pinion x pressed hear: Day Video's S. A.'s r uh pane two reed. Good writing is a combination of content and style. Frank Sinatra had a great voice, and along with Nelson Riddle made some of the best and most influential records of the 20th century. Check out "Songs For Swingin' Lovers" and "In The Wee Small Hours", especially if you like the "Bacharach/Costello" collaboration. Granted, your not going Elvis' lyrics, but it was a different time. Tony Bennett blows? REM and Tony Bennett? Try listening. Stormy Monday
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s6ac97a9.087@OAG.STATE.TX.US> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:11:07 -0600 From: "Steve Oleson" <Steve.Oleson@OAG.STATE.TX.US> Subject: Freudian Mind-slip Funny thing, but while reading Wesley Hanks post in #5-68, I had a Fruedian mind-slip that reminded me of AP's sexual double entendres etc. Wesley lists the Yahoo Club room @ http://clubs.yahoo.com/xtcenglandsglory My eye saw the words: XTC and glandsglory Fitting? You be the judge. -Cheers Steve Oleson Austin. TX
------------------------------ From: tim@edenpop.u-net.com (Tim Eden) Subject: Guitar guesswork Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:13:00 GMT Message-ID: <36adf752.20738385@mail.u-net.com> >I've been listening to the live portion of the Transistor Blast set, and I >wonder if anyone is obsessed enough with this band, as well as guitars, to >be able to document who plays what, in terms of guitars, on each song. I'm >interested in who plays lead, who plays rhythm, basically. This knowledge >would enhance my mental image of these shows a great deal. I can figure >out some songs, based on the existing liner notes from Andy about the shows >(like Dave's little run in 'Burning'), but I have plenty of gaps. My very limited knowledge tells me that Dave generally does most of the lead stuff (although this may only be in later work?). The Andy lead stuff I always imagine to be the more....wayward stuff like in the intro to "I Remember The Sun". Dave's stuff seems more controlled and refined to me. Plus I reckon the guitar sound can be a give away. I'm somehow assuming that the sound from the intro to "Towers of London" is very much Andy's. Not sure why, though. Most of this is supposition but then I impressed myself by guessing exactly right which bits of "OK Computer" were played by Thom. >re: mp3's > >Very nice to be able to download Papersnow as an mp3, although I am very >concerned about copyright infringement. Where is this? (Sorry if it's just been covered). >Okay, anyone else have a dream about *purchasing" Apple Venus? I've actually been dreaming about buying XTC albums which don't exist, so don't worry about it. Tim "It's difficult to think of anyone alive at the moment who is in more desperate need of a good kicking." - Ben Marshall (of The Guardian) on Neil Hannon
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199901260018.TAA10319@bean.epix.net> From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:16:34 -0400 Subject: LMNOP > When I was in law school a classmate and I schemed to form a band called > LMNOP, except we planned to spell and pronounce it Ellomennopee. You're > welcome to it, which brings me to: there was an actual band called LMNOP. they put out albums called "LMNOP", "LMNOP LMNOP", and "LMNO3" before using real titles, none of which i remember. i don't know what kind of band they were. Michael davies miser17@epix.net
------------------------------ From: pann@gate.net Message-ID: <36AD0D7B.565F@gate.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:34:03 -0500 Subject: you gotta love imports... Hi Everyone, > So last night, after watching Star Trek Voyager, I fall asleep > to once again dream I'm buying Apple Venus -- in Tokyo! And > this time the disc is enhanced with a holodeck program that puts > me in Andy's shed where he's playing the new CD live for me. see! I just knew the Japanese import had something extra on it!! Now $40 bucks doesn't seem so bad, eh? I am awaiting the bootleg Chinese copy myself; it comes with the above extras that Phil mentions, but also a packet of extra "dehydrated" simulations of Andy and Colin. Just add water, and BLAM!---the boys playing instant private acoustic versions of all your favorite tunes in the quiet, pleasant setting of your living room! Plus, they take requests.... who wouldn't buy this stuff? Perry (marketing wiz...)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36AD3493.80EBA2B4@gte.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:20:55 -0800 From: Randy Hiatt <rhiatt@gte.net> Subject: Dave and the girls From: Jill Oleson: When DavidOh said he was digit-impaired, it never occurred to me that he meant his finger! lol!! As Jill is probably aware...It's not How impaired but how you Use your imparity. Try catching some more zzz's Dave... builds stamina. *************** KL said: I hear there's a KKK rally comingup. Normally I wouldn't go but I hear that someone there might sing"Yacht Dance". Well put, and who thinks these break tunes are ever heard by the host, yet alone selected? ********************* From: "Amanda Owens"Wonder if Dave tried that recipe yet....anyhoo. You make me want to Bite you Amanda. ******************** davidoh said: btw, i'm still working on converting those slides i took of xtc in 1980.the trouble iz finding a place that will do them rite, 4 the rite price... OhDave, you can get slides digitally scanned (have one at work), or get slides converted to prints and then scanned (plenty good quality/approach), or some home flatbed scanners have a slide attachment (usually poor quality due to impaired size of the original... I'm not talking about you personally, this time). ******************** Molly said: Chalkers, I just read that Andy's coming to the States, but they didn'tmention where. I know there's no way he would come to Buffalo. Whycome to a gross city like Buffalo? It's so unfair that Buffalo would bemissed by a lot of groups. It always seems like when one of my favoritegroups goes on tour they miss Buffalo. It's the second largest city inNY State. Oh please oh please Andy come to Buffalo. I know he can'tread this, but I wish he would. I'm begging. Okay, that's enough of my pathetic crap. :) Molly, OhDavid'z got nothin on you girl! If there was someone here who has a style it's you.... I can get 2 sentences into your posts and know right away it's you... your as distinctive as a British police car siren... ************************ Inevitably someone was asking for band names... "the inevitable Groin" comment has repeatedly been misinterpreted ... it's just "Groin", I guess the mistake was inevitable. *********************** I'm shocked (blown) AV1 will be on vinyl, shocked they're playing it already in Seattle, is this all a great dream?? I'm still happy with my millionth generation demo tapes. life is good. Randy (I learned 5/4 from Happy the Man not PC) Hiatt
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990125231947.006ba174@mail.interlog.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:19:47 -0500 From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com> Subject: get over it, already! >From: Dominic Lawson <LAWSOND@parliament.uk> >Subject: No, Seriously. Shut Up. >L-A-F-T >Is that how you spell 'laughed' in your dictionary? Well, your dictionary's >shite. > >>>that'z hillarious, ian, i laft me arse off! good on yer, mate! > >Nicely done. Deflect that criticism by assuming that it was meant in jest. A >classic juvenile schoolboy error. >Note the cunning way "David" tries to make us sound like fascists because >some of us find his writing style feeble and pretentious. >Sorry, dick-weed, this has nothing to do with freedom of expression. >Unfortunately you come across increasingly as a cocky git, with precious >little to be cocky about. >No one wants to be writing or reading about your desperate attempts to >convince us of your individuality >your lack of originality. >you forfeit any credibility you might have gained with your >alleged "content". >your contrived "style". blah, blah, blah, woof, woof, woof! get over it, people, i won't be changing my "contrived style" anytime soon. why? because i'm a "dick-weed", a "cocky git" & "an idiot" who lax "originality" and "credibility". it must be true, dom sez so! everybody just knowz he'z da boss 'round here! waiting patiently 4 av1 (so we can move on 2 another thread...) davidoh
------------------------------ From: STakesh@aol.com Message-ID: <dd4a5ed3.36ad55eb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:43:07 EST Subject: SPIN's online interview with Partsy, Pt. 1 Hello, everyone, A friend alerted me to the SPIN online interview with Andy P.: >>I presume you've <A HREF="aol://4344:125.hr012299.31654734.601507514">seen this</A>.... There are sound clips from the album, too. Part 2 of the interview goes online next week. I'd Like That, Stephanie [ Now available on Chalkhills -- John]
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990126071642.19469.qmail@ww181.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 25 Jan 99 23:16:42 PST From: Brian Wysolmierski <BWYSOL@netscape.net> Subject: My Dictionary vs Bloody poop bags Hi, this is my first Chalkhills post(boring personal information, etc...) I emailed broadcast.com and told them that if they didnt get the show that featured My Dictionary working, I would FedEx them a bloody poop bag. They emailed me back 10 minutes later saying that the site is now back up! Go to http://www.dallasobserver.com/sceneheard/radio/playlist/index.html to check it out. Fast forward 13:45 into the show. The radio host even talks about a phone conversation he had w/ Andy. Cool stuff. About Transistor Blast: I love it, especially the two last discs. The best part of disk four is the rock & roll comments Colin delivers while singing (Such as "Yeah!" & "Sing a long!"). My absolute favorite though is during Making Plans for Nigel. Colin yells, "Leave him alone!" Funny, funny stuff! Anyone else notice this? -Brian Wysol
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36ADA2A2.B81BF85@lucent.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:10:26 +0000 From: JP Nicholls <nicholls@lucent.com> Organization: It came off in my hand, Mum! Subject: Road map of Swindon/Uffington online Swindon / Uffington White Horse (Uffington Castle/White Horse Hill 15km East of Swindon): http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=423200&Y=187860&arrow=Y also shows the railway - thin black line 5km north of Uffington, heading approx East-West. This is a great site for exploring other UK destinations. -- JP Nicholls / nicholls@lucent.com "Someone take these dreams away"
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s6adbc09.094@parliament.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:57:52 +0000 From: Dominic Lawson <LAWSOND@parliament.uk> Subject: The C@ Sh@ On The M@ >>Yesterday I've got my new copy of 'MOJO' - my favorite UK music magazine. On the included CD was - I could not believe - "Easter Theatre" from AV1. Unfortunately, the CD is only available for subsribers. Bastards. Hardly fair. The last thing I need is a subscription to an old folks' music magazine, but even so, it would have been worth it for a sneak preview of Easter Theatre. As I said, bastards. Now I suppose I'm going to have to wait for weeks, while all the lucky gits with pre-release copies bask in glittering XTC glory, pummelling their respective appendages with frenzied elation. Sorry, got a bit sidetracked there. Anyway, all the signs are extraordinarily good so far (but then what did I expect???) and I have a very strong feeling that, despite my impeccable Heavy Metal & Hip Hop credentials, AV will be the musical highlight of my year. Well, unless Kyuss reform or Mr Bungle get round to releasing a third album or Cardiacs new album appears before the end of the year.......obviously. >>Love the static that Davidoh has been getting. I couldn't be bothered to read more than his first posting anyway. No, quite, and bless you for that. Unfortunately "little" David is completely immune to criticism and chooses to ignore it rather than respond and explain himself in a way that us blinkered Nazis can comprehend. Still, in many ways it's better that he takes the no-dick approach. After all, it spares us reading any more of his "lookit meeee!" nonsense. Or should that be nonzenz? >>i'd luv 2 be involved in an online chat. that iz, if i'm allowed 2 contribute! sumthing tellz me that i won't be allowed 2, tho... There he goes again. The poor little lamb. Not a dry seat in the house. >> his recent non-singing disappoints me, but not enough to turn me off him, unlike others whose voices I never cared for to begin with. The wonder of non-singers should not be underestimated. I know there'll be a thousand sappy Crowded House fans out there who may disagree, but sweet vocal melodies are by no means a prerequisite for great pop music. How about Mark E. Smith, John Lydon, Captain Beefheart, Damo Suzuki, matey out of Tindersticks (holds a tune, but it's so low it doesn't count) and best of all, Tom Waits (who used to have a lovely voice until he swallowed that cheese grater). No doubt there are many others. In some ways I prefer the non-singer to the melody-merchant (and pre-"Black Sea" AP had his moments of stuttering, tongue-swallowing squawk action - just check out the live version of "All Along The Watchtower", as if you hadn't already), if only because many so-called "good" singers often make enormously bland records. I wouldn't accuse Celine Dion of being a technically poor vocalist, but her records suck poop out of a stoat's anus. Lou Reed's non-singing may be a minor let-down for devoted fans, but "New York" is by far his greatest solo album (in my humble etc - yes I know "Transformer" and "Berlin" are the critics' choice) and he rarely strays from nasal mumbling throughout. Likewise "Magic & Loss" (another winner) and whatever the recent one was called (you know, the one with "Sex With Your Parents" on it). Anyway, these are my trousers and I'm sticking to them.... Oh, and Eddie - you are a genius. "Her Breast Festival" is probably the best song title I've heard in years! CURRENTLY READING: Glamorama (Brett Easton Ellis) - so far, a cracking follow up to AP (that's American Psycho, not the Pope of Pop) CURRENTLY HEARING: Tinnitus, Belle & Sebastian, Transistor Blast, The Haunted, Sly & The Family Stone, Canibus Salut! Dom. "Just doing my bit for politics, religion & spelling"
------------------------------ Message-ID: <618F91505D89D21185330001FA6A495422998A@HFD-EXCH008> From: "Witter, Karl F" <WitterKF@aetna.com> Subject: Snobs here? Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:29:00 -0500 Plenty said about the snob bit lately, some I nod my head to, so I'll only throw in what I haven't read: I find that I hear enough about mainstream music elsewhere, like at work: Me, (something droll about how Celine Dion is referred to in Quebec as "Celine", no last name, because she's so beloved in Canada's largest province. Coworker "You don't like Celine Dion? Am I playing this (her Xmas CD) too loudly?" Me (diplomatically) "Hmm. I haven't heard this CD. Sometimes I think perhaps Celine should spend less time doing Dianne Warren's movie songs. Warren isn't exactly Rodgers and Hart, you know." By the time I get to Chalkhills, I don't want be some CHR fluffie. It's like a cozy little room in a busy restaurant, occupied by fewer people who share certain tendencies. However, it's still a blast to have ideas land from out of nowhere, like meteorites, to keep things lively. >KenL: What is the Deal with that show (Ally McBeal)? It's so well >written and acted but it is so damn annoying. I think the deal is its goal: Well-written and -acted, it can only succeed in what it attempts to do, which is create a mid-20s lawyer with all the emotional maturity and self- assuredness of a college freshman straight outta Dubuque. That's why it's annoying. David Kelley, who created Picket Fences' Jill Brock and several other true-to-twisted-life female characters in his past, slipped up. Such traits attractive (in that Booth Tarkington way) in a high-schooler and acceptable in an undergrad ring like a cracked bell in someone who has supposedly been through pre-law and law school and is now working in a high-profile law firm. My wife likes it a bunch more than I, but not 1000%. Tim of the Nigels suggested a names for John I's band. Let me twist one of his entries into: D'amour DuMaurier With a name like that, a single called "Rebecca" is mandatory. Still waiting for that unisex w.c. in my workplace, Karl
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36ADE961.1285@snet.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:12:17 -0500 From: Andrew Lippitt <andylipp@snet.net> Subject: More Than Coincidence? You Decide. Hey, Mitch stirred some long dormant synapse when he said: > And Dave is extremely creative > though he will tell you that he's merely a technician. He told me that his > favorite guitar solo of all time is in the Steely Dan song "Do It > Again". Listen to it and (according to Dave) you'll hear the inspiration for > the solo in "Real By Reel". I once read that Jimmy Page's fave solo ever was the one in "Reelin' In the Years" on the very same el pee (from the guitar of Elliot Randall, I think). No one cares but me, Another guy called Andy "Don't anthropomorphize compuers, they hate that" - Pezpunk
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