Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 189
Date: Sunday, 16 July 2000
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 189
Sunday, 16 July 2000
Topics:
Re: Thank Goodness for VCRs
Re: The Voice of Shaggy
Re: Smite Smote ...
I was walking down the street one day....
Re: Stupidly stupid idea
i would have made this instrumental...
i can't think of another band today
RE: Abducted
Partridge on VH1
Re: Joe Hartley has no Hart - the obvious rebuttal
random thoughts from the South Bay
standing in for joe easter
Abducted By Molly And The Wonderstuff.
Clean Up Time
martian abduction
Andy gets shafted again!
Re: Abducted
Roll Over John Lennon
I know I know
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Thank Goodness for VCRs Message-ID: <20000715033618.14624.qmail@web1303.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I should have looked at the VH1 web site before I set my VCR yesterday. I was so bummed when I found out that it wasn't on at 11pm. But thank goodness that it'll be on July 19th. What little I saw of the show, Andy was in his prime. :) Molly ===== AIM Name: MFanton00 Website: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html Fave Quote: "If your flight is going rough, your soul will lead you to the nearest exit" - Jump - XTC (A. Partridge)
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) From: John Relph <relph@mando.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: The Voice of Shaggy Message-ID: <10007142144.ZM42915@mando.engr.sgi.com> Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Play safe-it wasn't that long ago that Casey Kasem >fucked over Negativland... I was under the impression that it was Island Records that was responsible for that. And that SST bowed to Island's legal prowess. It was also my impression that Casey Kasem was remarkably silent in the matter. Am I wrong? -- John
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:46:22 -0700 (PDT) From: John Relph <relph@mando.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Smite Smote ... Message-ID: <10007142146.ZM42894@mando.engr.sgi.com> Natalie Jacobs <jacobsn@careoregon.org> writes: > >Apologies for the self-promotion. I hope I won't be smited/smote/smitten by >Mr. Relph too severely. Just what I need, someone else severely smitten by me. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. -- John
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 01:59:15 EDT From: KINGSTUNES@aol.com Subject: I was walking down the street one day.... Message-ID: <34.7ebc2ed.26a157b3@aol.com> Chalkarama, Re: Chicago...Joe Easter & Ed K. are bummin' me out here. Time for the boxing gloves. Now, listen, I like you guys, but you need some straightening out on Chicago. First of all, there are TWO Chicagos. The Chicago up to and including Chicago VII, and the Chicago from Chicago VIII to Chicago drekum infinitum. Everything you guys are saying is true - about the second Chicago. The first group did manage some pretty damn good music (inspite of their lyrics, which always walked the tightrope of cringe). Then the poor little Lambs lost their way in the land of gag me with pop. Maybe the "horn band" thing ain't yer bag (do you hate the early BS&T as well? I think think their 1st two albums are classics!) Early Chicago exhibited some fabulous musicianship. They were not hacks when it came to playing and arranging. Give them SOME credit. To dis them as one of the worst bands ever is only reasonable in light of their eighties pop barffery and their sophmoric lyricism. Of course, that's like the Medved brothers anointing Richard Burton the worst actor of all time on the premise that for every great performance he gave, he did twenty that bit the big one. I'm just a sayin' here, they weren't always THAT bad. Oh, and Dunks, the dreaded Cetera monster was with them from the start. You're no doubt confusing his presence with his ascendence as the primary voice in Choke - gago MK II. (Cue up Mick): PAYPLE, PAYPLE!!! What about the SHAGGS!!!!??? No one's picking up on this? Hello???? Or don't they count? In reply to first-timer Jani Sallinen (welcome!) - you're idea for a Stupidly Happy video is great. However, it's already been done. Anyone remember the video for Between The Lines by Phil "Why haven't I done an album with Pete Cetera or Kenny G" Collins, from Face Value? It had Phil playing air versions of all the instruments. Quite clever, really, untill he realized he was quite clever and proceeded to stop being clever in his earnest attempts to be clever. NEW THREAD ATTEMPT: Third person XTC. Like this: He-e-e-e-e-e-e-e's the man who murdered love. Yeah, whadda they think to that? Tom "Bummerrrrr" Kingston "What is the voice of song, when the world lacks the ear of taste?" -Nathaniel Hawthorne
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 16:18:34 +1000 From: "Clifford Smith" <dracon@worldreform.net> Subject: Re: Stupidly stupid idea Message-ID: <000901bfee24$82737020$290ffea9@dracon> In reply to: <<The idea is stupidly simple, really: air-guitar-vaganza! Grab your video camera, put it on a stand, press REC, assume the position and let it rip! I'm pretty sure there must be quite a few decent air-guitar players among us who could show the world that XTC is the real reason tennis rackets were made. What the hell, if you're too coy, go on and lure your kid to do some of that magic instead of you. And Andy could do a cameo. Some enterprising soul could edit the whole thing together and the end result would undoubtedly be cheap, charming, and heart-warming in a Spike-Jonze-kind-of-way. So whaddya think?>> Hehe, the idea has already been taken by a Band down here in Australia. They did something similar in their song "Chunky Chunky Air Guitar" (funny that, eh?).
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 08:21:15 -0400 From: "Daniel Phipps" <phipps@schoollink.net> Subject: i would have made this instrumental... Message-ID: <002801bfee57$2cc47060$a78c04d8@pavilion> ...but the words got in the way! hey all... out of delurk mode for a moment to let everyone know something that they're already well aware of -- "WASP STAR..." ROCKS!!!!!!! :-D it's absolutely the best thing xtc's put out since "english settlement" (my personal fave!!)...these guys do NOT disappoint, that's for sure. ...and you *have* to admire andy's abiding the downright annoyance of those accompanying kids on the panel of his appearance on vh1's "the list." i mean, we *are* talking 5-year-olds here whose attention span TOTALS five minutes for them altogether!! andy blew me away when his first selection was sinatra's "my way." (you go, andy, my man!! "old blue teeth" indeed! LMAO!).....but the speed-freak chick sitting next to him just kept going on and on and on and on got a bit annoying, you know? ....."but he's a, he's a LEGEND!! he's a LEGEND!!" (made me just want to look her straight in the eye and say, "shut the fuck up!!") but then andy mentions "stairway to heaven" next!! jesus!! i thought the audience was gonna crucify him right there on the spot, but you know something? he's absolutely right -- this is NOT one of zeppelin's best tunes!! they did a hell of a lot better material than this track. it's just one of many...plain and simple. but i digress... andy's a lot like ringo -- you *gotta* love him!! :-) (...and we do!!!) get out there and buy "wasp star..." keep these boys fed!! back into delurk...and still waiting for warbles that are fuzzy! /dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- /dan & ginger phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> "right here in this moment is right where i'm meant to be..." (edwin mccain)
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 09:43:23 EDT From: Fycruse@aol.com Subject: i can't think of another band today Message-ID: <75.6e0fb98.26a1c47b@aol.com> Oh- the satiric mask of genuine emotion - ever so new. and it would be very nice to have each selection with no lyrics. they stand alone, don't they with these men - lyrics/music. attraction lies(2) in eyes, no ears. and i like hearing about bands people like and "the first time I heard XTC" stories (mine is the most bittersweet). "to take one chord... and make everything work from that" ( badly misquoted but could whoever, please, tell me that site once more - so worthy of my steely fridge ) to the magic synthesis and hot, so hot, happy TEXASS (we're trying to evolve - we don't all want to be that way) days/daze. in hideously euphoric giddidom - it's the heat, it must be - Felicia Young Cruse
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:29:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Abducted Message-ID: <20000715172916.11909.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com> >Ok, here's the scenario. You're being abducted by kindly >aliens from a galaxy far, far, away. You are told to bring 5 >music CD's with you . What are they? They are metallic, circular discs that hold digitized sound.
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:49:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> Subject: Partridge on VH1 Message-ID: <200007151749.KAA06054@mail2.deltanet.com> It was good to see Mr. P. on the tube. As expected, Andy was the least featured, but he did look quite lovely in his lavender/tan ensemble. A high point- Andy attempting to lead the bewildered studio audience in an air guitar rendition of 'Stairway To Heaven'. A low point- When my husband said, "Andy looks a bit like Truman Capote, doesn't he?" Debora Brown "An example from the monkey: The higher it climbs, the more you see of its behind."-Saint Bonaventure
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 14:28:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
Subject: Re: Joe Hartley has no Hart - the obvious rebuttal
Message-ID: <200007151828.OAA13371@metheny.brainiac.com>
> From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com>
>
> Joe Hartley quipped:
> <<So I now look for the TVT label - and avoid those
> disks. I just wish
> our lads could have found a company with half a
> clue as to how to make a
> decent website.>>
>
> Oh I love it when people say this. So what you're
> basically saying is that if XTC released anymore stuff
> on TVT you wouldn't buy it.
I very likely would, but XTC is the only band on the roster
to rise above my distaste not only for the website, but for
the company's attitude in general towards the website.
A quote from TVT's response to my email:
> Try the site on a new pentium PC or a I-Mac
> with a Cable, DSL or T1 connection. It hums.
Implied in that is "You don't have a high bandwidth
connection and all the stuff we want you to load? Tough
noogies."
Really, all I want is a link on the top page that says
something like "Click here if our Javascript doesn't
let you in." The lack of a particular plugin, or the
failure of a Javascript because you use a browser other
than Netscape or IE (or in my case, having a firewall
which identifies itself as a different browser), shouldn't
lock you out of a website. You may not get all the bells
and whistles (and horns, in TVT's case), but you should
still be able to navigate the site.
> Well, I think you're a sad, sad man.
Whew... See the end of the post for my response.
> Why don't you get a PC or Mac instead
> of using UNIX. I never saw the meaning of UNIX. Most
> programs don't use UNIX. Why don't you get into the
> modern age, Joe and get a freaking PC or Mac. You
> won't get anywhere with UNIX.
I make an excellent living with Unix, thank you very much.
You may never see computers besides the desktop machines
you do your Internet chats on, but behind the scenes, Unix
machines run more web and mail servers than NT or Mac machines.
I *have* a PC, which I use for music production and gaming.
While it's on my home LAN, I rarely use it for Internet
access. I spend most of my time on the Sun, since it works
better interfacing with the machines I make my living from
than the PC. At work, my current project runs on HP-UX. I
have no choice over that platform. The whole idea of the Web
was to be a platform-independent way of presenting hyperlinked
information. Websites that throw that wonderful interoperability
away bother me. My opinion, though one not formed in a vacuum.
> I think
> people who complain about not getting into the web
> site shouldn't have the right to complain, because
> they can easliy download Flash and the other required
> programs.
Your ignorance is showing, then. The Flash plugins are
not available for the majority of operating systems I
use on a daily basis (HP-UX, SunOS and the version of Solaris
the database backend runs on). If it was, I would install
them. I'm not doing without them to be masochistic.
> And if you're
> worried about your computer crashing well then you
> should think about getting a new computer with more
> memory.
Well, Unix systems rarely crash completely. In the case
I mentioned, the crash was just of the browser and that was
avoided by upgrading Netscape for HP-UX 10.20 from 4.6 to 4.73,
but I still can't get past TVT's front page without the Flash
plugin, despite the fact that much of the content can be viewed
without Flash.
Re: "You're a sad, sad man":
Thanks a lot for the ad hominem attacks. I find it interesting
that you call me sad over the choice of computer I use at work
and at home (often the two coincide). You may think that everyone
should be in lockstep with respect to computers and their operating
systems; fine. Using that as a springboard to malign a person's
character is out of line.
===========================
Folks, this is the last response I'll make on the topic unless
someone else wants to impugn my character over my opinions on
commercial website design. I've been on the ARPAnet/Internet for
over twenty years and professionally involved with it for almost
ten, five of which were spent owning and running an ISP. I
approached this discussion having some experience in the field,
only to find myself not in a discussion of the merits of making a
website as accessible as possible to a business's potential customers,
but defending attacks on my character. It's just not worth the
aggravation.
======================================================================
Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh@brainiac.com
12 Emma G Lane, Narragansett, RI 02882 - vox 401.782.9042
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:34:18 EDT From: Robeach11@aol.com Subject: random thoughts from the South Bay Message-ID: <78.7a9cdac.26a1fa9a@aol.com> Mike writes: << How about a new list: Bands That Were Once Great But Now Suck Obvious choice - The Beach Boys. >> Yes. The current Mike Love version of the Beach Boys suck. Ok, they've sucked for a long while. Just don't group what Brian Wilson's doing now with the Beach Boys (mmm kay?). He's made an astounding comeback. As for worst groups ever, I'd have to pick Starship & Night Ranger as two of the most Godawful acts I've ever heard. Yucky. Bad. Wretch. XTC content: If ITMWML has done this well as a single on "adult alternative" charts, I really feel confident that "Stupidly Happy" can go even further. It sounds like the feel-good song of the summer. Toe-tappin', head-bobbin' fun. BTW, Casey Kasem was great last night. He really wore me out. Rob Carson, Ca
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:12:57 -0600 From: "Joseph Easter" <easter2000@earthlink.net> Subject: standing in for joe easter Message-ID: <000701bfee90$cce4a0e0$48821c3f@default> Hello all, Randy of the Redwoods here. You might remember me from MTV fame, back in the day. Or if not, maybe you remember the Freedom Rock Commercial of a decade ago. I was the guy who said, "Hey, man, is that freedom rock? Well turn it up, dude!!!" That was me. Mr. Easter has been relatively concerned with the happenings here on the ChalkBoard, so he has asked me to "new school" you on the merits of what being an XtC fan *really* means. It seems that an odd bunch of you, what shall we call you, ah yes, right wing gun toting pinkos, need to totally chill out and think about what some of this music is saying. Perhaps you are confused. XtC is a hippie band. Sorry to say it, but people who listen to XtC usually do so at the "higher" altitudes, so to speak. Imagine this, you are in Sequoia Nat'l Park and everyone is groovin' out by the campfire listening to the Dukes, passing a bowl (of hummus), and just completely diggin' to the sweet, sweet sounds of the boys making love to the octaves. Just then, a doe and her fawn disturb your bliss and ask, "Have you seen any martians?'" "Have we seen any martians?!! Yes way, dude! We saw some of those leroys just tugging away coming up the mountain in a tye dye Vanagon! They asked me if we had some rolling papers, and I said, 'Rolling papers are for phonies! Try some of this!' I whipped out the 5 foot bong filled with Southern Comfort and thought they would be like, appreciative and shit, but they just said, "If you're going to use a bong, why not use this?" We hollowed out the inside of a fallen redwood (how *did* you think I got my name?) and proceeded to toke until the moon rose out of the east and we enjoyed the last remnants of an Indian summer out on Moro Rock. I was just wiggin' out on the Martians 'fros and all, when I thought, "Damn, if there wasn't a new XtC album to listen to!" So like, the Martians were *completely* reading my thoughts! Abe (that was the shorter Martian) had just finished drinking the SoCo out of the old bong and said, "Dude! I was just thinking the same freaking thing! Far out, bro!" And he proceeded to slide me a copy of Apple Venus Vol.1. He told me it had been out for awhile, but I've been kind of out of it and all, and so it was a complete surprise to me. I mean, it took me a week just to open the case to Oranges. The artwork just kept freakin' me out man! I noticed the younger fawn was engrossed in my story. So engrossed in fact, that he did not notice that my buddy Melvin started using the fawn's sphincter as (yes, you guessed it) a bong. The mama doe wasn't phased at all and even commented that she liked to use old tree stumps and apples (and oranges and lemons) as well as 1976 Toyota Corollas for bongs. You learn something new everyday, I guess. I am digressing. Point is, XtC jewel cases make pretty good bongs. So, why doesn't everyone just completely chill out and like, love each other and shit (not necessarily in *any* order) and listen to the lyrics and like, completely harmonize with the men? XtC is for hippies, dudes! Like, understand that and all, man. If you are so intent on constructing and deconstructing the musical structure of the boys, maybe your weed is a little wacky and you need to go organic. Completely off the subject, Joseph Easter did not put me up to this. He just has mentioned in passing that certain people don't know how to take a joke. Or make a joke. And that if we all quit taking everything so seriously, we might just make it after all (inject Mary Tyler Moore.) If you've got a beef with me, Randy of the Redwoods, you can find me in any of a number of abandoned southern Cal. Aquaducts awaiting my MTV residuals. In for Joe... That's another thing! What's up with nicking the man's name?! The boy's parent given name is Joseph, dammit! Joseph Dammit Easter, III! What's wrong with you people. Standing in for Jo(don't call me Joe) seph (ilus) Easter, III: Randall Jerry Redwood (of the Redwoods) PS XtC Rocks!
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 15:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Radios In Motion <radiosinmotion@iwon.com> Subject: Abducted By Molly And The Wonderstuff. Message-ID: <384427567.963689339727.JavaMail.root@web186-iw> First let me get this out of my system. As Molly said "I think people who complain about not getting into the web site shouldn't have the right to complain" Maybe if your a conservative fascist its ok to believe that no one has the right to complain, but we sure as hell do. Complaining, no matter how many people it offends, gets things done. The site sucks, period. I am not running Linux or Unix 'YET'. What I do have is a 700MGHZ AMD with 256 MB Ram, 200 Gigs of space, win98se, 128 Bit AGP ATI VC, I have flash, shockwave, director, and most everything macromedia puts out. I have a damn good system and I still don't like the site! A site should be accessible to most computers. If someone is building a personal site, they should build it for their audience, but a label should build a cross platform site. Its not that much work and I know there are better web designers than me on this list who can vouch for that! Plus, as I said, little shockwave drums are not that cool! Its also funny watching you yell at other people for complaining, considering your average post is "no one likes me, you all are a bunch of mean people, boo hoo, no one showed up for my listening party. It's harsh, but true. Second, WONDERSTUFF ARE WHAT?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!??! Please give, give, give, give me, more, more, more info, I am a big fan. Where did you find this out? So if I was abducted what would I bring with me. That is really a tough one. If I could chose, I would pick 5: 80 Minute CD compilations made by me, if not, well here is what I would bring: XTC: Drums & Wires. Oingo Boingo: Alive (would that count as 2? If so, I guess Good For Your Soul) Frank Zappa: Strictly Commercial Camper Van Beethoven: Key Lime Pie (god that is tough!) Robyn Hitchcock: Greatest Hits Why did you not give us a choice of 10? If it was 10, here are the other 5. Cracker: Garage D'Or (please' don't count that as 2!) Wonderstuff: 8 Legged Grove Machine Pixies: Surfer Rosa XTC: AV1 Public Image Limited: Happy It would be a tough coice, but off the top of my head, that is what I would bring!
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Al LaCarte <allacarte@yahoo.com> Subject: Clean Up Time Message-ID: <20000715200722.28683.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> All: WTDK said: >I've always liked the raw emotion of his playing. It's not technically good,< John was an excellent guitar player; that's him on "Get Back," "I Feel Fine," and many other Beatle songs. He wasn't flashy, but his playing was meticulous, clean, and tasteful. He was known for his writing, his singing and his stinging wit, but he was also an fine musician as well. Al
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:33:42 -0600 From: "Joseph Easter" <easter2000@earthlink.net> Subject: martian abduction Message-ID: <002101bfee93$968401a0$48821c3f@default> I forgot to mention this, but after the Martians and me smoked up, we took off for awhile to Eros, the planet of Luv. They already had the entire XtC music catalogue, so they asked me to bring something new. But there wasn't alot of room, so I just grabbed 5 discs from my van. Here they go... (in no order, like, duh.) Abbey Road, (I forget the band's name.) Living With the Law, Chris Whitley Songs in the Key of Life, Stevie Wonder On Every Street, Dire Straits Bitches Brew, Miles (mother fuckin') Davis They worked pretty well for about six months, and then I wished I had included more 2 cd sets. Ah well, live and learn... Randall Jerry Redwood (Nabisco)
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 12:48:05 -0700 (PDT) From: pancho artecona <partecona@yahoo.com> Subject: Andy gets shafted again! Message-ID: <20000715194805.17530.qmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> The List As always, disregard if this has been said. I have to admit that i have been doing an awful lot of scrolling down these days. Must be getting older or something. Did anyone notice that Andy's winning choice "Rock and Roll (Part 2) was omitted form the closing credits and replaced by that Mambo #5 Song? I'd think VH-I was probably thinking of their demographic even in the closing credits.....nefarious bastards. I guess if I had a teenage daughter.....he must have scored lots of points with Holly (the Foo Lover). That panelist girl's voice was almost as annoying as Sarah MaClaughan or whatever her yodeling name is, crackingly unbearable....plus pretty vapid as well (as opposed to the poetic Sarah of course lest some of you get offended). I'm still sticking with The Bloody Stools for my band's name. After all, 'I'm in Health Care'. Pancho XPRXTCFAN
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:39:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Abducted Message-ID: <20000715173902.24827.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com> >Ok, here's the scenario. You're being abducted by kindly >aliens from a galaxy far, far, away. You are told to bring 5 >music CD's with you . What are they? Actually, that scenario is discussed in the book 'Godel, Escher, Bach' by Douglas R. Hofstadter (a book that you all should read anyways). In the book, you are asked to imagine that aliens land in your backyard, and you want to play them some music (assuming that they have a concept of music). Hofstater's point is that playing them something like Bach would be appropriate, while something by John Cage would not. This isn't a commentary on Cage's work, merely a realization that having a full understanding of what Cage did requires a familiarity with western musical tradition. In other words, you can't understand the subversive and revolutionary aspects of Cage if you have no idea what he was revolting against.
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:16:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Al LaCarte <allacarte@yahoo.com> Subject: Roll Over John Lennon Message-ID: <20000715201651.29316.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> All: I said: >>KEY RICED O'MIGHTY! >> >>I'm still recovering from the Elo-ified renditions of >>"Free As A Bird" and "Real Love" erroneously >>attributed to "The Bealtes" and placed on the "The >>Anthology" collections. = Derek = responded : >Aw, come on now... I think Paul, George and Ringo are big boys now and weren't just roped into being session lackeys for Jeff Lynne's mad production experiment. I mean, if Sir Paul can have an entire run of Anthology 2 scrapped just so his first track comes after one (instead of three) Lennon numbers, I bet he could have had Lynne sacked.< Indeed. I never meant to imply otherwise. It was without a doubt the most distasteful thing they did since the infamous "Butcher Cover." Al
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 20:49:51 +0100 From: Belinda Blanchard <b.blanchard@which.net> Subject: I know I know Message-ID: <3970C05E.85E51633@which.net> David wrote of my writing of Dunks writing: "Hey Belinda, the 10cc thing. Now I'm probably missing the double irony bit here, but I THINK Dunks was joking when he referred to them as 3rd rate. Maybe you realised that and were joking back in the spirit etc" YES I WAS but he missed it and his response was pretty mean! Like that runed my day. Sorry - that should read That ruined MY day. Even my response about it to Harrison yes yes but it just doesn't always work. Did anyone get the irony and rudeness and fun in the mere written b/w words as typed in the London Live interview I transcribed? Of course! But then you (think you) KNOW Andy and it's easier to imagine/feel how he is saying stuff. Back to a good night on the telly. Belinda
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